Nokia 808 PureView

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AnonD-79951
npm
02 Aug 2013

Anonymous, 02 Aug 2013really?are you sure about this?i thought 808 also made in h... moreDamian Dinning: Chinese production of Nokia 808 PureView is in no way inferior
Published on 3 August 2012 by Marc @PureViewClub

Some readers of this blog have been posting reactions suggesting that the Nokia 808 PureView produced in China would be inferior to the ones produced in Finland. Chinese versions would consist of “cheaper materials”. The accusations even go as far as claiming the Nokia 808 produced in China would not have an original Carl Zeiss lens. Asked for any proof to support these quite serious accusations, I received nothing however.

First I understand that people from Finland might want to see a Nokia phone produced there. But Apple is not manufacturing the iPhone in the US either, and there is nothing wrong with that hardware as we all know. Second, I’m not sure whether the Nokia 808 PureView is manufactured in Finland at all – as far as I know, the whole production is done in China in fact.

Last but not least: I know my Nokia 808 PureView is from China, and so is Damian Dinning’s – and he is Lead Program Manager Imaging Experience at Nokia. After I contacted him about these accusations , he wrote this fierce reply in one of the blogs where the accusations were made:

ALL Nokia products and the components within are made to exactly the same exacting specifications. Your claims are false and based on ZERO supporting information or facts.
Damian Dinning – Nokia

Coming from Damian, it’s enough proof for me. I seriously urge those who have been writing these accusations to refrain from repeating them on this blog. Thank you.

PUREVIEWCLUB

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Anonymous
K2G
02 Aug 2013

AnonD-171561, 02 Aug 2013hi my friend all 808 phones are made in china no prob... it... morereally?are you sure about this?i thought 808 also made in hungery,finland,korea etc..

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AnonD-2665
HsJ
02 Aug 2013

AnonD-156047, 02 Aug 2013guys my 808's gallery hangs every now n then, what should i do?flash ur phone with delight belle cfw !

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AnonD-156047
vGx
02 Aug 2013

guys my 808's gallery hangs every now n then, what should i do?

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AnonD-171561
0IZ
02 Aug 2013

chiraj, 02 Aug 2013my 808 phone is made in china... not finlend or hungery... ... morehi my friend all 808 phones are made in china no prob... it is original

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kagaya
PFH
02 Aug 2013

AnonD-34934, 27 Jul 2013try MeeGo once.. U will be satisfied and will get the answe... morethank u Nokia n9 is meego OS, Am i right? but availablity is very less right now, may i know meego can support all major apps

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Anonymous
PFH
02 Aug 2013

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AnonD-2665
rAg
02 Aug 2013

AnonD-34934, 02 Aug 2013Gitty if possible get me download link for The One CFW v4.2... moreI tried it before, it doesn't open with my tata docomo but it opens if I use my another sim ie. Idea! So check if ur operator has banned it ! U can use another sim as I did !

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chiraj
iwp
02 Aug 2013

my 808 phone is made in china... not finlend or hungery... so it is original...? plezzzzz help me...

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AnonD-34934
utY
02 Aug 2013

AnonD-2665, 01 Aug 2013hi ! R u still using belle delight ? Or got the one now ?Gitty if possible get me download link for The One CFW v4.2
when ever i open the download link it ends in failure..
can u get me direct download page.. i mean in a click download.

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AnonD-34934
utY
02 Aug 2013

no gitty. Using huellif v3.1.1. I feel this is perfect for my use. Also mohican is really worthy.

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AnonD-2665
rA2
01 Aug 2013

AnonD-34934, 01 Aug 2013No more info can be obtained from google...;)... chance les... morehi ! R u still using belle delight ? Or got the one now ?

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Anonymous
tUX
01 Aug 2013

nokia 808 is the best mobile

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AnonD-91246
rKA
01 Aug 2013

hmmmmm....thanks for your reply guys. One is better in something than other. But i think 808 has much better camera than 1020. I will continue with it. :)

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Anonymous
mjP
01 Aug 2013

AnonD-91246, 31 Jul 2013hi Carol, how are you ? I've come here after long time. So,... moreyes, the sensor is smaller but still bigger than 1/2.3(the most common used dimension for pocket cameras) and 1/3(most smartphones) so there is no doubt you can't go wrong with either choice you make. Is it as good as 808? from the first samples I've seen the iq is still better on 808 but the differences are small and for many 808 users(including me) there is no reason for updating if we speak only about the camera. I wanted but I expected a little more, still 1020 it is the first choice available(I guess you could still find new 808s although hard or second hand ones) when it comes to photos/video. Anyway, if you didn't make up your mind yet, take a look first at the guys from dpreviw:

http://connect.dpreview.com/post/8135699821/sample-gallery-nokia-lumia-1020#embeddedSampleGallery1612474854?news
and soon they will review it as a camera the same way they did with 808

http://connect.dpreview.com/post/4388245494/nokia-808-pureview-review

Maybe you could draw better conclusions then, over here are more subjective opinions(I susbscribe to that:)) in saying 808 still holds the crown:) but for sure I wouldn't be disapointed in carrying an 1020 arround...

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AnonD-34934
utY
01 Aug 2013

AnonD-77434, 01 Aug 2013Look, I posted it in gsmarena and 808 page several times, b... moreNo more info can be obtained from google...;)... chance less... shows that Ziad is back to page... Am i right Friend??

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AnonD-162764
6Qa
01 Aug 2013

daily popularity of 808 is rising day by day after availability of 1020. :D i think people are comparing both devices. :D

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AnonD-77434
rtQ
01 Aug 2013

AnonD-91246, 31 Jul 2013answer my question buddies....! :(Look, I posted it in gsmarena and 808 page several times, but no problem to share it again with you
  1- Nokia 808 PV has 1/1.2" FSI CMOS which is bigger than lumia 1020 1/1.5" BSI CMOS sensor.

  2- Nokia 808 PV has ND filter and ISO 50 level to reduce the highlights, Lumia 1020 hasn't

 3- Nokia 808 PV has the biggest focal length ever (8.02 mm) which gives you the best depth of field more than Lumia 1020 (6.6 mm) only...Lumia still bigger than N8 (6.0 mm) and all other phones out there for sure

.  4- Nokia 808 has bigger pixel size 

 -- 38-34 full resolution is 1.4 um like Xperia Z, Iphone 5, S3-4  

-- 8 MP pureview mode is 3.07 um (very big for phone)

  -- 5 MP pureview mode is 3.91 um (amazing for phone)  -

- 2 MP pureview mode is 4.89 um (biggest pixel ever in any smartphone)  This big pixels gives you such pure and clear pictures...so when zooming 100% you will see zero noise (depending on zoom levels also till you reach the max zoom so you will get the real resolution)  

5- Nokia 808 Pureview handles over 1 Billion pixel per secend during 1080P video recording and that's 16x powerful than any phone ever (read the white paper)  

6- Nokia 808 producing it's images at 300 dpi. (amazing for sure, N8 also) 

 Now coming to lumia 1020...the best smartphone camera out there right now:  

1- Lumia 1020 has smaller pixel size 1.12 um due to the samller sensor size

  2- Lumia 1020 producing images in 72 dpi only...another reason for making the pixel smaller than 808 pureview's one ( talked with juha alakarhu on twitter about pixel size and he told me that they simulated the 1.4 um but the results was worst than 1.12 um  

3- Lumia 1020 has no ND filter.

4- Lumia 1020 has no ISO 50, it starts from 100 and this will results more noise and highlights in the pictures.

 5- Juha didn't tell me about the pixel size of the oversampled 5 MP...he just told me that the physical pixel size is 1.12 um, but I think it will be around 2.75 um or somthing like that, but obvious it will be smaller than Nokia 808's one  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  But Lumia 1020 also has some advantages over it's older brother the 808 PV :  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  1- Lumia 1020 have apreture F/ 2.2 bigger than 808 PV F/2.4, and bigger F-stop means bigger depth of field and better light catching 

 2- Lumia 1020 has the best OIS on any phone, it's the second generation and really it's impressive and awesome and very powerful and accurate more than Lumia 925-928-920  

3- Lumia 1020 have Six lenses rather than 5 only for 808 pureview and 4 only for all the lumias except Lumia 925 (which has six also) 

 4- Lumia 1020 has better oversampling algorithms so the 5 MP should sharper than 808 (but that doesn't mean better or more details) 

 5- Lumia has faster shutter speed till 1/16000 faster than 808 PV which has shutter speed around 1/ 5000 - 6000 and the pictures is almost totally dark. 

 6- Lumia 1020 has Rich audio recording and two mics. like 808 PV...808 is stronger cause it can do like 320 mb bitrate/s CD quality beside WP OS still has mono only for video recording...(read the white paper of 808)

  7- Lumia has mechanical shutter like 808 PV and N8 and that's help the Xenon flash and fast mode photos

  So as you see both have amazing technology and Nokia only one can do that  but The final conclution:  ---------------------------------  -Nokia 808 is better in terms of clarity and pure photos with almost no noise...it has more zoom with 2MP PV mode up to 3.6 zoom so: day light photos, portraits, landscapes, night photos it will be more clear and producing more amount of details. 

 - Lumia 1020 will be better in low light, indoors, night portraits and photos, cause of the awesome OIS 2nd generation which gives the Lumia 1020 extra points here (Nokia 808 pureview will be better in low light in terms of quality and clarity with details but it will need tripod, cause it will be very shaky at night and produce very shaked photos)

but you know, not every one will cary or use tripod when going to club or taking quick night photos -

Lumia will be better also at videos cause they will be very sharp and stable due to OIS 2nd generation. I hope that make it clear and gives you some nice information, Ohh...btw I'm saving right now to pick up one hot yellow Lumia 1020 :P have a nice day...808 PV user ;) 

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AnonD-34934
2Tb
31 Jul 2013

AnonD-91246, 31 Jul 2013answer my question buddies....! :(have a look into this Harish

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/18042_The_first_big_PureView_battle_.php

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AnonD-91246
rKq
31 Jul 2013

answer my question buddies....! :(

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