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akash97
K2E
10 Jan 2011

[deleted post]LMAO LMAO......what ....u r giving specs of N7 or a PC?!..AAAAAHAHAHAHHAH
btw n97 owners like me will not see any huge differences going to n8...its all the same old BLAH BLAH s**t
BUT the cam is epicly awesome.....but this price for a gud cam?...NAAAAAH
rather ip4,desire HD or the upcoming GALAXY S 2 will be great

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rdca
t7P
10 Jan 2011

Dipto, 10 Jan 2011reinstall firmware through ovi suitehow? what you mean sir i reinstall 011.012 Firmware using ovi suite?

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Dipto
t@J
10 Jan 2011

rdca, 10 Jan 2011 N8 user i need your help my social networking on my... morereinstall firmware through ovi suite

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WALANG HIYA TALO NG
t7X
10 Jan 2011

ganyan kaganda ang n8 kc pinagtatalunan ung mga hater dyan mag 3310 nlan kayo haha

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rdca
t7P
10 Jan 2011

N8 user i need your help my social networking on my device not working, I call Nokia Care line twice but problem not solve. Scrip Alert Sorry Pleased Uninstall and Reinstall Communities

I Follow the procedure given by Nokia Care Assistant

1.) Uninstall Social
2.) Soft Rest *#7780#
3.) Download link using Computer and transfer it to your device http://nmota.messagin.nokia.com ./clients/Social_1_2_update.sisx

Guys I followed that procedure but the problem not solved Sript Alert Sorry Pleased Uninstall and reinstall communities.

What can i do? Do you have any idea?

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Vilayat niazi
kUW
10 Jan 2011

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Janus
NH}
10 Jan 2011

bullzeye, 09 Jan 2011i think its from the second batch, we always get everything... moreHAHA :D Good Luck,

I orderd my N8 two times, in Petermaritzburg (they had stock after a week)but its like three hours away.. and from MTN Direct I waited 3 weeks for it, in my third week I went home to my small home town and they had 5 in stock!!

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Janus
NH}
10 Jan 2011

Anonymous, 09 Jan 2011Well,according to the v nr is the second batch. But the tim... moreNo, I did not. My contract upgraded the 4th of Jan. I heard that its the first batch that has all the 'bugs' and my N8 is perfect..

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Anonymous
k1H
10 Jan 2011

Anonymous, 10 Jan 2011Nokia dont like profit? thats bad news for the stock holder... moreI didn't say Nokia don't like profit and i hope you got the point how Nokia are making profit or (will make profit). Any big company like Nokia has a major responsibility in R&D, thats true and currently they are the one dedicated to wireless communication. Samsung excels in Display technology, Trying to contribute in processor technology as well, Google trying there best in smartphone OS design, Apple improved the touch screen technology to a big extent. Yet Nokia are still the leaders in many aspects they do a lot of ground work to give the smartphone technology the momentum. You may know that C7 is the first Smartphone to pack NFC chip and 3220 was the first NFC enabled phone. Check this link and video for your self http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/01/orange-hd-voice-service-and-handsets-go-live-in-the-uk-we-go-ea/ . you can learn that there is completely another dimension of smartphone technology than what you think of now (Gigahertz race).

Ya HTC is quietly brilliant in adopting all those development and make profit. Nokia are still best in innovation and in connecting people, see how they connect Haters, Fans and enthusiast in this forum.

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Anonymous
m7I
10 Jan 2011

Anonymous, 10 Jan 2011Hey pal, I'm aware of this men, i didn't mean you, i told y... moreNokia dont like profit? thats bad news for the stock holders, i hope you will not reaveal this little secret, then we will have red numbers on the stockmarkets all over the world today, its gonna be a blood red day if your news about Nokia comes out, one of the worlds comtech giants will stop making money...

Nokia doing research and development in network tech is about the same as Intel did to develop Wimax, its nothing new that big companies does this, its driven by the hope for really high profits on a long term basis. Thats why they patent it, if it goes through and becomes a world standard they can sit down and do nothing and cash in insane amounts in royalties.

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deep space bar
q}@
10 Jan 2011

i just want nokia add the universal language to symOS and keyboard

since it's a universal phone and they are making their phone pentaband now

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Anonymous
k1H
10 Jan 2011

him, 10 Jan 2011oye phudideya. Proof link-http://mynokiablog.com/2011/01... moreHey pal, I'm aware of this men, i didn't mean you, i told you about that "m71s" Sorry if i meant bad in hindi i thought 'e' refers 'him', coz i really don't know, but thanks i learnt a new word. What i told you is even though there are serious work going on in nokia these are not official, So lets keep it aside from the forum.

In a serious note to 'm71s': If you really love HTC stick to HTC forum. Nokia really know what they are doing. For example, Nokia spend all the day and money doing research on the LTE network development (>54% of the patents belongs to nokia in that technology) but HTC jumps and announce a LTE enabled mobile device and steal the show. Nokia are spnding time on bringing multi core processor technology to smart phone OS from 2007 and other phone manufactures jump and announce a dual core phone in 2010 and steal the show. Everybody in telecommunication and smartphone world know the role of Nokia. They are the innovators until now. (think if not LTE network no LTE phones, if not OS is compatible with multi cores No dual core phones - Who do the valuable part?)

All your argument about the processor and stuffs are correct, but what you miss is Nokia is a service based company rather than the motive of profit making, or else i don't think it will be a hassle for them to use the top level technology available there in their phones, but rather they always try to innovate and take the industry to next level. There is no point in just adopting all the technologies first and releasing a handset without any contribution to the industry.

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Anonymous
m7I
10 Jan 2011

Anonymous, 10 Jan 2011Let's start with the CPU. Symbian handle processes like no... moreWhat are you talking about.... Apps are compiled, not interpreted through the OS. There is no way to make a library call considerably faster on one os than another. If there was a miracle cure then everyone would use it. You are mistaking "small footprint" for performance gains.

You can try this with Linux on your own PC... Install gentoo, compile the kernel with as little stuff as possible, and dont allow it to load any kernel modules. Now do a plain install of Debian with default kernel, let it load watever modules it like and see if its so much slower. I can tell you already, the Debian installation will be faster for very many tasks, despite a much larger footprint. On the Gentoo installation you have saved some RAM, FOR THE KERNEL, but you havent done anything to improve application performance. OS footprint barely affects application performance at all.

Thats a long post and lots of it is based on lack of understanding on how processing works on a lower level. However you are right about your GPU stuff. N97 scrolls like crap because it has no GPU at all.

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Anonymous
t1{
10 Jan 2011

Let's start with the CPU. Symbian
handle processes like no other OS on
mobile hardware. Multi tasks is a core
functionality of this OS and a more
powerful hardware is not needed to
do it well. Plus a simpler chip design means less power needed with recent
silicon burning technologies. Warning,
I'm talking about low level stuff, not
user interface and apps. You're right,
how a CPU 50% faster than the one on
the n97 is going to allow me to have smooth kinetic scrolling while I am
listening to music??? (people with a
5800 or a n97 know that kinetic
scrolling is rendered at 5 FPS in this
case, 100% of CPU is used). The
answer lies within the GPU, a BCM2727 chip. N8 USES The BCM2727 chip is really powerful.
Just take a look at this PDF file: http:// www.curiouscat.org/Steve/
Media/2727-PB01-R.pdf
Some interesting points about this
chip. First it does everything. It
encodes and decodes audio, video,
jpeg on it's own and is capable of
displaying 42 millions of triangles! All
these tasks that relied on the CPU for Symbian^1 devices can now be done
by the Broadcom GPU with SYmbian^3
(thank to the new graphic
architecture). So what will the CPU
have to do then ? Handling threads,
sending instructions and other core OS functionalities. A domain where
Symbian is really good.
But that's not all. Look at the memory.
The BCM2727 had 32 MB of SDRAM
built-in! Now that's REALLY interesting.
Why? Because the GPU doesn't pollute the Ram with textures for example, it
does it with its local memory. Access
times are also lower. Also very
interesting, the GPU and the CPU can
READ/WRITE at the same time(two
memories, two memory controllers)! I doubt this is possible with the single
chip design of the TI OMAP, but I may
be wrong. What if it needs more than
32MB of memory? I guess it can still
use the ram, although it will be slower.
And last but not least, it is frugal in terms of power consumption. Once
again, look at the number in the PDF.
60 hours of music playback, 3 hours
of video capture. Remember the two
days of music playback announced by
Nokia ? That's where it comes from. So yeah, the Broadcom BCM2727 is a
vey powerful chip and not so power
angry at the same time, great for
audio, 3D games, photos and videos.
And he is working with great partners. These partners are of course the new
Carl Zeiss optics and the "super"
sensor of the N8 camera. They are so
good that Nokia almost disable all
kind of digital processing (look at
Damian Dinning articles). And the few digital processes is done by the
Broadcom chip? I guess that's why the
N8 camera is lightning fast!

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Anonymous
m7I
10 Jan 2011

[deleted post]You dont know anything about this, so no need to post so long posts about it. HTC Desire Z has a 800MHz processor because it is a second gen snapdragon chipset. It is faster than the old 1GHz Snapdragons in some things, plus it has improved graphics performance. Htc Desire Z is fast, for normal use its faster than SGS, more responsive. Because GPU dont mean cr@p for normal fone usage, teh GPU cannot accellerate normal tasks, it can onli improve graphical features and effects. For menu animation even a 3 year old GPU is overpowered. Then we come to games, then N8 has a good performance thanks to the GPU.

But 800MHz has nothing to do with HTC being moderate, HTC knows what people want and need, and they give it to them. MSM 7230 is good balance between very high performance and power saving. When not playing games this has at least 2.5x speed advantage over N8, i dont think that qualifies as "optimizing for less hardware", its rather a move to the latest and greatest, and thats an area where HTC is king, they been leading the way for others both in early adoption of both new hardware and software, and especialy did a remarkable job in getting out usable Android fones at an early point. Not to mention how few issues HTC has on their fones even before first firmware update, no doubt they have the best engineers and the best programmers.

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him
t1{
10 Jan 2011

N8 gpu is best.
Link-
http://broadcom.com/products/Cellular/Mobile-Multimedia-Processors/BCM2727

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him
t1{
10 Jan 2011

Anonymous, 09 Jan 2011ignorkar ignorkar, ye sala he apka silencer. Don't raise th... moreoye phudideya.
Proof
link-http://mynokiablog.com/2011/01/08/rumours-nokia-n9-being-announced-at-mwc-in-6-weeks-time-more-n9x7-gossip/
Arm 11 can be easily clock to 1ghz.
S^4 update will clock it to 900mhz.

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him
t1{
10 Jan 2011

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him
t1{
10 Jan 2011

N8 GPU being a Broadcom unit-Broadcom
BCM2727 gpu
That Broadcom GPU does 32 Million
Polygons a second!!!! That beats the
The Cortex A8 used in the N900 AND iPhone4 when comparing
polygons per second.
Source
http://forum.dailymobile.se/index.php?topic=21904.0
http://frendzforum.org/forum/showthreads-44-0-2482549+n8-uses-broadcom-BCM2727-multimedia-processor-aka-GPU.htm

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Anonymous
k1H
09 Jan 2011

him, 09 Jan 2011u will come to know when updates will release. First updat... moreignorkar ignorkar, ye sala he apka silencer. Don't raise the expectation men, I'm sure the update is going to be cool, but i believe some code optimization would give the performance that they want. Any android user will say 680 Mhz is underpowered coz they can't simply have a usable android in a processor that is less than 600 Mhz. Even the 1 Ghz of Xperia X10 is regarded as laggy.

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