Nokia N8
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- 13 Sep 2010
shahid, 13 Sep 2010I agree with u the people who never used android or ios the... moreYou are a satisfied customer. But that's not an excuse to say negative things about n8's gaming when obviously you're just being completely biased. I never tried n8 nor iphone or galaxy. But after doing some research and watching some videos, i think gaming on n8 will be better. Don't worry, i'm not as biased like you and some other posters here. I put almost all of the best smartphones from different company in consideration before making a choice. My next phone will be N8. Wave comes 2nd choice if n8 will be priced beyond my allowance. XD That's 30% chance of happening.
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- 13 Sep 2010
Guys dont compare n8 vid galaxy s.bcoz galaxy s gonna b legend.n8 can only beat galaxy in camera comparision.otherwise galaxy is the no 1 ph in the market.it can even beat iphone easily
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Anonymous, 13 Sep 2010Nice phone with old osSymbian^3 is not old, it's brand new :D
It looks mainly the same, but functions 10 times better than the previous ones.
Also, tell me, why should they make it different if the only real change is that ppl have to learn to use it again? It's the same template that like 40% of current smartphone users can use with previous experience.
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shahid, 13 Sep 2010I agree with u the people who never used android or ios the... moreShort from maybe those games, how does actually Android actually beat Symbian?
Should probably wait till Symbian^3 before makign the comparison, cos that just wipes the floor with all previous Symbians at the same time.
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adam, 12 Sep 2010only 680MHz CPU (brain of the phone) most phones these days... morethat is because Symbian dont require soo much..
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adam, 12 Sep 2010only 680MHz CPU (brain of the phone) most phones these days... moreYeah, but it has a separate graphics processor, so that load is taken of the main chip. The overall performance should be equivalent to or better than the comparable 1GHz units.
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- 13 Sep 2010
Nice phone with old os
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- 13 Sep 2010
They're not ugly, they're just simple! XD s60 3rd apps like ms dict, screen snap, file lock, uninstall king etc. uses the default UI. But why would you look for an eyecandy for that apps? They perform what they suppose to do, i think that's more important.
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- 13 Sep 2010
Anonymous, 13 Sep 2010nokia knows that symbian can not compete with other operati... moreI agree with u the people who never used android or ios they can really say that symbian is the best a year back my feeling and suggestion were the same if u use ur mobile to play the games please play games on these mobile iphone 4 and Samsung galaxy and than on n8 than see the difference u will fell like playing call of duty or crisis or gta 4 on s or 4g and on nakia it will be like playing sega games
I am not against n8 I am also in love with n8 with its built quality it is just like 80 years old lady(n8) wearing 500$ clothes and 20 years old lady (galaxy S) wearing 50$ clothes but now imagine which is better to see when there clothes are removed
Surely Galaxy s
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- 13 Sep 2010
can you provide 1Ghz processor instead of 1mhz.because iphone & other phones are provided with 1GHz processor
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- 13 Sep 2010
Anonymous, 13 Sep 2010nokia knows that symbian can not compete with other operati... moreCan u tell me the names of those ugly symbian applications ?
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- 13 Sep 2010
Anonymous, 13 Sep 2010nokia knows that symbian can not compete with other operati... moreI already copy pasted this earlier from my-symbian forums, but I don't want you to spread false information about Symbian^3 (not sure if you were only referring to early symbians, but you do generalize the whole Symbian).
Well, what I can say for now is that overall quality, look&feel, build precision, materials, etc. are simply OUTSTANDING and in this regard the N8 is surely the best Nokia smartphone ever made. The all plastic N900 does not even come close in terms of build quality. It was cold outside when the courier delivered the package and when I was taking the N8 from the box when I touched it for the first time that cold metal casing was really a nice feeling. The screen is also just.... lovely and works just like what you'd expect from a capacitive multitouch display.
I must say I am also extremely (positively) surprised when it comes to performance. The device boots in less than 30 seconds (including the Nokia Hands animation) and everything works exceptionally fast. I am not exaggerating here, it is really a ROCKET.
For several days I've been also testing the Vivaz and Vivaz pro, which both have the fastest processor ever used in a Symbian phone (Cortex-A8 720 MHz), i.e. faster and more advanced than N8's ARM1176 @ 680 MHz, but compared to the N8 they feel like snails.
I've also ran some benchmarks (e.g. GLBenchmark 1.1) and while Vivaz's get results considerably better (often even twice) than e.g. the Samsung Omnia i8910 HD, the N8 in turn outperforms the Vivaz/Vivaz Pro twins in graphic performance almost TWICE. It looks that even though its processor is slower, the GPU (hardware accelerator) of the N8 is considerably faster. Vivaz has PowerVR SGX530 GPU while the N8 has Broadcom VideoCore III.
http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=1106424
If it's that much faster than SGX530, then I wouldn't be surprised if it was offering performance similar to the SGX535 like in the iPhone 4.
As much as I am not a huge fan of S60, I must say that N8's Symbian^3 is a really huge step forward in terms of user experience. Even though everything looks almost the same, it's all the small tweaks and improvements that make it a wholly different story. Even just getting rid of that annoying and inconsistent double-tap on some items makes it much more pleasant to use, and along with the overall great performance it really works as it should have been from the beginning.
Oh, and they FINALLY changed the landscape mode to ALWAYS show the virtual buttons at the BOTTOM of the screen and not on the right side (on S60 5th Edition phones it works this way only on the home screen while on all other screens the buttons are on the right, eating some 20% of screen area) so now the landscape mode offers considerably more usable screen area, i.e. full width, with only a small button bar at the bottom. Again, just as it should have been from the beginning.
The camera (both video and stills) are indeed of exceptional quality and there are also some really nice small things about it like e.g. tiny internal "cover" over the lens that opens and closes automatically as you launch or close the camera app.
Would I switch from the N900 to the N8? Most probably no. I still prefer Maemo's UI, its higher resolution screen and its openness. So as much as I am really excited about the N8, my upgrade path from the N900 will be the N9.
I'd say eye candy is very well balanced against performance and usability. Transitions and effects are very subtle, yet still noticeable. And they're REALLY fast, well, at least on a "fresh" device that's not stuffed too much. I got the device three days later than promised and had to send it back today, so I only had three days to play with it, way too little to draw any final conclusions on how it will behave with lots of software installed, or how battery will perform in normal daily use, etc. I didn't have enough time to even just test how the Power Saving Mode improves battery life. But such a 'fresh' device performed EXCEPTIONALLY well. I'm still wondering how the N8 with a 680 MHz ARM11 can be that much faster than e.g. Vivaz with 720 MHz OMAP3...
I was promised that I will get another, almost final unit in a week or so, and for longer testing, so based on it I will be able to talk about all the details.
Back to eye candy, the UI looks much more elegant. All the changes are actually quite small and subtle, but maybe that's why I like them. Users don't have to learn the UI from the scratch, it's just that certain annoying things have been fixed and the UI got a face lifting. Transitions, fades etc. were 100% smooth and - as I wrote - very subtle, which means short/quick. This way, while making the UI look nicer, they do not slow it down unnecessarily.
Kinetic scrolling is supported everywhere, in all applications, system screens, image viewer, web browser, etc. And it is 100% smooth, too. Scrolling between pictures in the gallery is simply superb, just what you'd expect. Definitely not worse than on the iPhone.
Kinetic scrolling in the web browser is also nice, however some 'heavy' pages with large flash content tend to lag a bit, i.e. they start scrolling with some slight delay, but the actual scrolling is smooth, too. Lightweight pages scroll instantly. So I guess it's flash that affects the performance.
Pinch-to-zoom also works really nicely, both for images and web pages. There's really nothing to complain about in this regard.
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Does the audio player contain the 'cover flow' type display of album covers that was demonstrated in the s^3 preview video?
Yes. Please see the screenshot below. It looks and works really great and smooth, too.
http://download.my-symbian.com/Forum_pics/n8media.jpg
The impression I got regarding the eyecandy is that Nokia finally hired someone with GOOD TASTE to tune it. Subtle and quick transitions, really nice scrolling, and even the vibrator tuned for very nice and gentle feeback when you touch the screen. It is still the S60 platform and it couldn't magically turn into something completely different, so e.g. the built-in applications like Calendar or email client are still the same and may be too simple for more demanding users, but the overall user experience has really improved A LOT.
If Maemo/Meego didn't exist and I had to choose a new smartphone, I'd happily get the N8. I just wish it had a WVGA screen. nHD on 3.5" looks a little bit too pixelized, and the icons could be a bit smaller, too.
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Anonymous, 13 Sep 2010nokia knows that symbian can not compete with other operati... moreJudging Symbian^3 to earlier Symbians is like saying Windows 7 is a pure failure just cos Vista was.
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adam, 12 Sep 2010only 680MHz CPU (brain of the phone) most phones these days... moreYou dont need 1Ghz as the screen resolution is lower (640x320) compared to 1GHz phones (800*480). Lower resolution means less cpu-memory consumption under normal conditions.
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- 13 Sep 2010
nokia knows that symbian can not compete with other operating systems because the problems that symbian has, like the laggy interface and performance,the low reslolustion screen that nokia calling it nHD trying to fo#l some people,the unablity to get use of the more advanced processors and bigger rams,all these things make symbian looks like a joke when compared to andriod ,or iOS.
and as we know symbian is present before iOS ,andriod but when any human who has brain can easily notice the big difference between the applications quality of symbian and the and the other systems ,symbian applications looks ugly ,laggy,and not an eye candy even the quality of the samsung bada apps is better than the symbian.
nokia n8 is the last chance for nokia to stay in the smart phones market competition after the big failure of the n97 and the n900 at least untill meego become mature enough to replace symbian.
nokia n8 will get a lot of users specially people those never used andriod phone or an iphone before .
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Matt, 13 Sep 2010Could be. All I know is that when I changed my 3GS's firmwa... moreAight, could be I remember wrong, or maybe it was the 3 or something, or then it just didnt effect everyone.
Well, case closed, back to N8 guys! :D
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- Anonymous
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- 13 Sep 2010
nokia knows that symbian can not compete with other operating systems because the problems that symbian has, like the laggy interface and performance,the low reslolustion screen that nokia calling it nHD trying to fo#l some people,the unablity to get use of the more advanced processors and bigger rams,all these things make symbian looks like a joke when compared to andriod ,or iOS.
and as we know symbian is present before iOS ,andriod but when any human who has brain can easily notice the big difference between the applications quality of symbian and the and the other systems ,symbian applications looks ugly ,laggy,and not an eye candy even the quality of the samsung bada apps is better than the symbian.
nokia n8 is the last chance for nokia to stay in the smart phones market competition after the big failure of the n97 and the n900 at least untill meego become mature enough to replace symbian.
nokia n8 will get a lot of users specially people those never used andriod phone or an iphone before .
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- 13 Sep 2010
Wheez, 13 Sep 2010I believe most of the problems that came got fixed anyways ... moreCould be. All I know is that when I changed my 3GS's firmware to 4.0 as soon as it was jailbroken, I was really really happy with it because finally it didn't have any bugs, errors or shutdowns anymore
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- 13 Sep 2010
Duel, 13 Sep 2010"Well iPhone 4 has not. You still have to download app... moreIt doesnt have java support and 3G videocalls. Only microsimcard. No card slot and so on you can have a loong list
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Duel, 13 Sep 2010"Well iPhone 4 has not. You still have to download app... morewell let's see where to begin:
-sending a file thru bluetooth. any file to any other bleutooth enabled device
-having a file explorer
-storing files on the memory of the phone to extract them later for using on other devices
-setting up mp3 ringtones and message tones
-flash in web browser
-sms delivery report
-having control over your image files and folders. It just converts the choses folders/iPhoto events to an unknown, unusable format on the phone itself
-put music (or anything for that matter) on it by copying, pasting
-offline navigation
-should I go on?
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off course, if you do not want all of these things, why not buy an iPhone...
But I DO NEED them, so I'm selling my iPhone ;-)