Nokia N86 8MP
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- Anonymous
- ib7
- 09 Mar 2009
answer for those who confuse about the N85 8MP
Obviously, Nokia had initially planned it as an upgrade of the popular N85, which by the way is just how it looks. Then they changed their mind but strangely (and quite flagrantly) kept the 8MP label. taken from gsmarena
i think no one read the article made by gsmarena about MWC, so i decided to cut and paste it here:
Nevertheless, the Nokia N86 has one of the most impressively equipped 8 megapixel cameras closing the gap between cameraphones and point-and-shoot cams. It's the first and only cameraphone to offer variable aperture values (F2.4/F3.2/F4.8) and a 28mm wide-angle lens.
You can see the difference between the wide angle and a regular cameraphone lens. Here are two samples of one and the same scene taken simultaneously with a Nokia N86 8MP and another Nokia phone. The samples are downsized to 800x600 pixels as resolution is irrelevant. Just compare the field of view.
some nokia phone
http://i.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/mwc09-nokia/camera/thumb/gsmarena_003.jpg
N86 wide angled
http://i.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/mwc09-nokia/camera/thumb/gsmarena_004.jpg
The other first-ever is the variable aperture. Having a variable aperture (like a regular digicam) instead of a fixed aperture (like a regular cameraphone) gives you one more way of controlling the amount of light that reaches the camera sensor.
In other words, smaller F aperture numbers let more light in, while higher aperture numbers reduce the incoming light. You still get the same exposure, as the camera compensates for the various aperture settings by varying the shutter speed or the ISO, which are the two other factors that determine the total amount of light that gets in.
But leaving the photography primer aside, the advertized aperture values of Nokia N86 8MP (F2.4/F3.2/F4.8) have two distinctive benefits.
The first benefit is that at F2.4 the N86 camera has more light to work with as compared to the standard F2.8 value of all cameraphones we've seen so far. In low light conditions that allows you to get higher shutter speeds (possibly less handshake blur) or lower ISO (possibly less noise) or even both.
The second benefit from the variable aperture is that when there's enough light, the camera sensor can let the aperture close down a bit more (F3.2/F4.8) thus creating images that are usually sharper and with better depth of focus field.
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- Kal
- vwd
- 09 Mar 2009
iolo003, 09 Mar 2009yeah we did c", i was talking about hits, why did you chan... moreThat's like a fanboy. Can't take the negative. LOL. You can count the hits but refuse to see what they are rating..hehehe...So you actually believe that most of the people coming to this page are actually nokia haters? Great guys. You can claim how many 5800 they have sold but refuse to accept the ground reality that they are coming back to Nokia care with great numbers too. You know that's one reason why I visit nokia pages. It amazes me to see how some fanboys go on and on to defend it, sometimes blindly. After all Nokia needs you. Kudos.
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- John
- j{k
- 09 Mar 2009
I want to buy this phone cause i like it. I like 8mp camera. I like the design very cool. I have n95 8gb and after this i'm gonna buy this phone surely.
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- Anil
- uNW
- 09 Mar 2009
http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic2.php3?sImg=reviewsimg/mwc09-nokia/n86/gsmarena_018.jpg
Why is N85 8MB written on this phone rather than N86? :s
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- iolo003
- PT}
- 09 Mar 2009
Kal, 09 Mar 2009I believe I had a chat with you before. Anyways if that is ... moreyeah we did c",
i was talking about hits, why did you change the topic to votes? voting here can be manipulated by the haters and the hits are not, hits counts as you visit this site and thats all that matters. the more hits this page got, the better
the more comments made the more interesting it has become. if you really want this phone to fail, stop visiting this page
but you cant help it dont you? because this page rocks!! haha
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- Anonymous
- ib7
- 09 Mar 2009
Premium design with authentic materials and crafted details including scratch resistant hardened glass front face, surrounded by prestige metal details
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- Anonymous
- j09
- 09 Mar 2009
how can the n 73 have a better build than this n 86 and cant even come close to the n 82 the n 73 build is so poor
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- Anonymous
- ib7
- 09 Mar 2009
dave, 09 Mar 2009i see why nokia fans still think that N86 is the best.. co... morewhy N82 can do a better job than other 5MP??
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- Anonymous
- iLY
- 09 Mar 2009
its great phone finaly we can injoy 8 mega pixel camera with nokia thats cool im so cruise to see this phone as soon as possible
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- dave
- wra
- 09 Mar 2009
Bronco, 09 Mar 2009In theory, yes, the 12MP camera CAN record HD videos at 720... morei see why nokia fans still think that N86 is the best..
coz they dont know about the other camera quality out there, they just know about their phone camera..they cant open their eyes to see how many camera qualities are better than N86..even nokia fans dont know about EXMOR CMOS quality..they just focus only on 1 company...it is nokia that just takes and puts camera from the other company.even the nokia CMOS sensor quality is low..how can the camera get a good image without high resolution image and high pixel quality altough this N86 has complete aperture?
nokia fans are blind, they dont see their big weakness, CMOS sensor is the most important to deliver high pixel quality and high resolution image so the aperture will be usefull.
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- Kal
- vwd
- 09 Mar 2009
iolo003, 09 Mar 2009I'm a proud Nokia User and I'm looking forward in buying No... moreI believe I had a chat with you before. Anyways if that is the case then you should check the "Voting Result" as well, not just the number of hits. It looks pathetic with 6.3/6.6/6.5. People are coming here but most of them are disappointed. Isn't it?
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- Bronco
- iib
- 09 Mar 2009
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970In theory, yes, the 12MP camera CAN record HD videos at 720P/1080P. But sorry to disappoint you; it doesn't. If it did, SE would have announced it with the phone at launch to combat he Omnia HD which records in 720P. If the Idou has a smaller battery than the Omnia HD (1500MAh), then there won't even be a point of it being able to record HD videos. The omnia lasts 30 minutes recording at 720P; imagine how little time you would have shooting at 1080P. So it looks like HD recording is unlikely for the Idou.
Sure, it may shoot pictures at a larger resolution than an 8MP camera; but that doesn't mean the pictures are going to be any better than the 8MP's. There are 5MP camera phones out there that can stand up to the 8MP's. From what I can tell, the N86 is more than likely going to have sharper and clearer pictures than the Idou.
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- iolo003
- PT}
- 09 Mar 2009
Kal, 09 Mar 2009Does "HIT" counts at GSMarea necessarily increase a phone's... moreI'm a proud Nokia User and I'm looking forward in buying Nokia N86 8MP when it comes out.
Lets put things in perspective, the more people talks about a product wither its good or bad, the more it will create interest, the more interesting the product would become, the bigger the possibility for sales. isn't this one of the laws in marketing?
look at how the sales of N96 defeats innov8, its because N96 is more talk about than innov8.
Same thing will happen between N86 and Idou, interest on N86 is building up faster than Idou nor Samsung HD and at the end will defeat booth in sales.
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- iolo003
- PT}
- 09 Mar 2009
Kal, 09 Mar 2009Does "HIT" counts at GSMarea necessarily increase a phone's... moreI'm a proud Nokia User and I'm looking forward to buy Nokia N86 8MP when it comes out.
Lets put things in perspective, the more people talks about a product wither its good or bad, the more it will create interest, the more interesting the product would become, the bigger the possibility for sales. isn't this one of the laws in marketing?
look at how the sales of N96 defeats innov8, its because N96 is more talk about than innov8.
Same thing will happen between N86 and Idou, interest on N86 is building up faster than Idou nor Samsung HD and at the end will defeat booth in sales.
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- Anonymous
- ib7
- 09 Mar 2009
hey, i found out in Nokia forum about N86, N86 have
Automatic Motion Blur Reduction
Full Screen Viewfinder
1 Large and variable aperture: F2.4, F3.2, F4.8
2 Macro focus: 10-50 cm
3 Wide angle optics: 28mm. High speed shutter, max shutter speed: 1/1000 sec
anyone read the article made by gsmarena before??
Nevertheless, the Nokia N86 has one of the most impressively equipped 8 megapixel cameras closing the gap between cameraphones and point-and-shoot cams. It's the first and only cameraphone to offer variable aperture values (F2.4/F3.2/F4.8) and a 28mm wide-angle lens.
The other first-ever is the variable aperture. Having a variable aperture (like a regular digicam) instead of a fixed aperture (like a regular cameraphone) gives you one more way of controlling the amount of light that reaches the camera sensor.
In other words, smaller F aperture numbers let more light in, while higher aperture numbers reduce the incoming light. You still get the same exposure, as the camera compensates for the various aperture settings by varying the shutter speed or the ISO, which are the two other factors that determine the total amount of light that gets in.
But leaving the photography primer aside, the advertized aperture values of Nokia N86 8MP (F2.4/F3.2/F4.8) have two distinctive benefits.
The first benefit is that at F2.4 the N86 camera has more light to work with as compared to the standard F2.8 value of all cameraphones we've seen so far. In low light conditions that allows you to get higher shutter speeds (possibly less handshake blur) or lower ISO (possibly less noise) or even both.
The second benefit from the variable aperture is that when there's enough light, the camera sensor can let the aperture close down a bit more (F3.2/F4.8) thus creating images that are usually sharper and with better depth of focus field.
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- Anonymous
- ib7
- 09 Mar 2009
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970i am surprise
se fans don't know most of the N-series device got uPnP since N80
and i am surprise ,
everyone know uPnP is an old feature and se fans donno it is an old feature
maybe uPnp in se fans brain is a new feature, cause they never having it, play it before
acting??
where the information i copy from??
show it to me la,
need to screenshot my N82??
and teach you how to play??
desperate se fans, upnp is a NEW FEATURE for them
idou can record HD??
then NOKIA Morph can record Full HD
did SE fans know idou is a concept phone??
even the official web page also listed
*idou is a concept name for this phone and not the final name under which the product will actually be marketed ??
keep it on, keep jealous N86 ,
nokia fans won't mind it, for helping N86 increase the "Hits" so with the NOKIA "Hits"
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- Kal
- vwd
- 09 Mar 2009
iolo003, 09 Mar 2009Thanks to the "haters" this phone is getting hotter everyda... moreDoes "HIT" counts at GSMarea necessarily increase a phone's sale or make a phone "Hotter"? If it does then that's bilnd fanboyism in my opinion. Don't we have brains to think if the phone really deserves it or not?
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- iolo003
- PT}
- 09 Mar 2009
Thanks to the "haters" this phone is getting hotter everyday. "Hits" steadily increase that even over shadowed Omina HD (announced a day before N86) and now catching up with Idou (announced 3 days before N86)
No wonder why bored SE fanboys come here to destroy this phone, their Idou is lossing grounds. People have lost interest on Idou because they realize that its still a CONCEPT phone, nothing to brag about hehehe
Well, readers here knows best c",
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- josh
- 2C{
- 09 Mar 2009
Anonymous, 07 Mar 2009you say that 3rd Gen LED Flash,is powerfull than xenon fla... morewell you just have to look at the aticle about the 3rd generation leads, I was really surprised to to see that i lights up pretty good.
besides this cell is not even out yet so you dont know that until you try it.
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- dennis
- nTp
- 08 Mar 2009
hi to all i would just like to tell to any cellphone company that why in all camera?they never think to make the cellphone for webcam?i man they should make it for ready to use for desktop or any notebook computer?for webcam???????i hope they will do that....
thanks..