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David 040882, 18 Jul 2024Fair enough then. In your case, avoiding Xiaomi smartphones... moreIn the past 12 months I've had a Xiaomi 12 Lite, Galaxy S20 FE 5G, Galaxy S21 FE 5G, Galaxy S23 FE 5G, Galaxy A55 and a OnePlus 10T.
After all that I have decided to buy a Motorola Moto G84 5G for many reasons.

    Gino76ph, 17 Jul 2024I could live with quarterly security updates but it has to ... moreFair enough then. In your case, avoiding Xiaomi smartphones would be a good idea. Btw, our of curiosity, what phone are you currently using?

      David 040882, 16 Jul 2024I also had a Redmi Note 10 Pro a few years back, and while ... moreI could live with quarterly security updates but it has to be accompanied with 1st-party app optimizations, maintenance or quality of life updates. But waiting for 6-9 months of new system/OS updates is also intolerable.
      You still can't uninstall all 1st-party apps - that for me is not good. If you can then i'm on board.
      If one can disable ads and those pesky "recommendations" then i'm on board.
      Unless I see these changes in Hyper OS then i'll probably avoid a Xiaomi phone like the plague.

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        David 040882, 16 Jul 2024I would say the Nord CE3 is more worth it. Better overall packagetrue, but since it will only get one last update it kind of throws me off a bit, also that ce4 lite battery life is tempting

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          I know it has an old chip but I do find the design refreshing.

            Anonymous, 16 Jul 2024if you're talking about ads like in the themes app or ... moreI would say the Nord CE3 is more worth it. Better overall package

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              Gino76ph, 15 Jul 2024So, how can i disable all ads on a Xiaomi phones without co... moreif you're talking about ads like in the themes app or security app, just go to the settings for them and disable the "recommendations" thingy or whatever you call it, it'll be visible to you.

              by the way is the CE3 worth it over this phone? for some reason I don't live in India but suppliers here have the CE3 and the CE4 lite at the same price (around 210-230 euros) so bit stuck here cause one is higher up but it has one less update and the other has a really good battery but weaker chipset

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                Can you adjust vibration intensity in this device?

                  Gino76ph, 15 Jul 2024My other concern with Xiaomi phones (the midrange ones) is ... moreI also had a Redmi Note 10 Pro a few years back, and while I cannot say that I'm satisfied with the update schedule on Xiaomi's phones, I also can't say that I've ever had security problems regarding viruses or malware on a Xiaomi smartphone. But I can definitely see your concern here and the possibility of, say, being hacked is still very small (unless, like I've said, you visit malicious websites) but that possibility is still a tad bigger than on other smartphones with more timely updates. Still, I wouldn't avoid Xiaomi phones like they're some kind of plague only because of that fact. But regarding the software and update policy, Xiaomi has indeed always been a tad behind competition.

                    Anonymous, 14 Jul 2024You can disable basically all the ads by yourself easily on... moreSo, how can i disable all ads on a Xiaomi phones without connecting it to a PC?

                      David 040882, 14 Jul 2024Fair point. Samsung, OnePlus and Motorola do have more qual... moreMy other concern with Xiaomi phones (the midrange ones) is the security updates. Quarterly ain't not good enough these days. I may be stearing away form suspicious websites or apps but of the security updates is "4 months old" there may be viruses or "monsters" that may creep in and steal your card details or hack into your social media or something.
                      Would that be of any concern to you?

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                        Gino76ph, 14 Jul 2024The samples really don't do justice when comparing the... moreYou can disable basically all the ads by yourself easily on Redmis and such

                          Gino76ph, 14 Jul 2024I think nowadays it's good to be mindful of what you a... moreFair point. Samsung, OnePlus and Motorola do have more quality control in the manufacturing process and after sales. I agree. Those are the main areas where Xiaomi is still a bit behind the curve. As for security against malware, I genuinely wouldn't worry about that too much these days, regardless of the phone company. The most common way and pretty much the only way of getting malware into your smartphone is through the ways that I stated: visiting suspicious websites and downloading infected files from malicious websites. That happened to me two times and my phone was going crazy, although back then I had a realme 8 Pro. And the phone's security system didn't/couldn't do much, so I installed an antivirus and it fixed it. But ever since I moved to the Xiaomi 12, which is a much pricier, flagship-level device than the realme 8 Pro so better security is expected, I've had no problems, whatsoever.

                            David 040882, 14 Jul 2024I'm currently using a Xiaomi 12 and apart from some bu... moreI think nowadays it's good to be mindful of what you are buying. Because of what's happening in terms of China the country in a "geopolitical" sense people are rightly concerned of spywares, malwares, trojans and what not. A Redmi Note 13 series is not a flagship. So the concerns of ads, bloat and spywares are there.
                            Having had past Xiaomi / Redmi /Poco phones in the past i find very little confidence-building measures in owning their phones apart from being a great value for money. Updates policy is ambiguous including quality of life updates (to cameras, photos app, performance, etc.) and I still think Samsung, OnePlus and in some ways Motorola still have more quality control in the manufacturing and after sales.
                            What do you think?

                              Gino76ph, 14 Jul 2024The samples really don't do justice when comparing the... moreI'm currently using a Xiaomi 12 and apart from some bugs here and there, I can't really complain. And the ads/bloat ware are only present on lower-end, non-flagship Xiaomi smartphones, so if you get a model from their flagship lineup, even older ones like the Mi 11 and 12 series, you shouldn't find any ads in the software. Regarding spyware... I mean, everyone knows pretty damn well by now that every phone company spies, in one way or another, through their smartphones, but as for any other type of spyware and malware, any phone can get it if you visit the wrong sites or download suspicious files/apps, etc. But really, I haven't heard about specific malware issues on Xiaomi's phones

                                David 040882, 13 Jul 2024Yes, pretty sure. Here's what GSMArena team said about... moreThe samples really don't do justice when comparing them. Best to ask people for their own experience i think.
                                I think we can both agree the Snapdragon 695 is an old chip and has been left behind in the competition with the newer ones. There are reports the Moto G84 Android 14 update made some minor enhancements to the camera quality overall but I don't know if this is true or not.
                                My only concern with a Xiaomi product are the ads, plenty of bloatware (which you can uninstall most but not all) and reports of spywares/malwares pre-installed as being a chinese phone.
                                Any thoughts on that?

                                  Gino76ph, 13 Jul 2024The Moto G84 has somewhat the older Samsung ISOCELL GN9 sen... moreYes, pretty sure. Here's what GSMArena team said about the main cam results of the Moto G84:

                                  "The main camera on the Moto G84 captures binned stills in right around 12.5MP by default. These look pretty nice overall, with plenty of detail and true-to-life colors. Dynamic range is also decent, and so is contrast.

                                  However, there are some obvious deficiencies, like noise, which is present throughout the frame. There is some softness as well. Motorola has seemingly tried to deal with it through sharpening, but it is a bit too aggressive for our taste. Sharpening artifacts are visible all throughout the frame. Fine detail is subject to moire fringing."

                                  While on the hands-on review of the Nord CE4 Lite they said this:

                                  "Let's move on to discussing the image quality of the sole usable camera on the back. The main camera has above-average image quality with a few caveats. The color reproduction and white balance were good but with a tendency to oversaturate greens, making foliage more vibrant than it was in reality. The detail captured is good but oversharpened and exaggerated a bit. The dynamic range was a bit disappointing as the camera would struggle with bright highlights and dark shadows in high-contrast scenes. There's also noticeable color noise in the shadows."

                                  The Mogo G84 also has a bonus point because of the ultrawide camera, which the Nord CE4 Lite completely lacks. So overall, I'd go with the Moto G84. Go check GSMArena's camera samples on each of the phones' reviews and see for yourself which images you like better

                                    David 040882, 12 Jul 2024The Moto G84 for sure. It has a bigger main camera sensor, ... moreThe Moto G84 has somewhat the older Samsung ISOCELL GN9 sensor (main camera) whereas the Nord CE4 Lite has the somewhat newer Sony LYT-600.
                                    So, on paper (and practice) would you expect the Moto G84 to still be slightly superior in it's camera system?

                                      Gino76ph, 12 Jul 2024This might sound like a stupid question. The Nord CE4 Lite... moreThe Moto G84 for sure. It has a bigger main camera sensor, as well as an ultrawide with AF, whereas the Nord CE4 Lite has a 2MP depth sensor

                                        This might sound like a stupid question.
                                        The Nord CE4 Lite and the Moto G84 both have the same chipsets but seemingly that's where it ends.
                                        So, which one between them have better cameras overall in photo & video quality?

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