Realme 2 Pro
- RishiGuru
- tUa
- 19 Oct 2018
Rajinders, 18 Oct 2018Your observations are on dot ...rightly said it is not snap... moreThere is a reason why Oppo Realme 2 Pro is not as fast as say a Nokia 7 Plus even though both comes with SD660 SoC. And I am concerned about this trend among smartphone manufacturers. But first let us discuss about all BBK Electronic brands: Oppo, Vivo, OnePlus and now RealMe. If you look at all the phones available from BBK in India using SD660 SoC, you will end up with:
1) RealMe 2 Pro
2) Vivo V9 Pro
3) Vivo V11 Pro
All these three phones are using attractive looking plastic or rather polycarbonate chassis/casing so that they look flashy and cheap to manufacture. A similar uni-body metal chassis after CNC processing may cost 20 times more like in Nokia 7 Plus. But there is a method to all this madness.
India happens to be a very price sensitive market where high specs and low prices rule. So what BBK is doing is to make plastic phones with high specs like RealMe 2 Pro using cheap plastic materials used construction and then price it very aggressively driving huge sales. But plastic has its own demerits related not only is looks and in-hand feel but also in SoC's sustained high performance.
A powerful SoC like SD660 even made through efficient 14 nm architecture will emit heat when pushed hard and then something inside the phone needs to dissipate the heat so as the SoC can provide sustained high performance over a period of time. If the SoC is not able to dissipate the heat properly it will immediately start throttling causing huge drop in performance which the user will immediately notice in lagging UI and huge frame drops while playing games.
A premium metal unibody phone like Nokia 7 Plus, will absorb the heat from SD660 and dissipate the heat throughout its entire metal body as metal is an excellent conductor of heat. The phone will then tend to me warm in hand if pushed to extreme over a sustained period, but rest assured the Soc will remain cool and provide maximum output, no CPU throttling which cause lags in UI or frame drops in games.
On the other hand plastic is a very bad conductor of heat. Thus it cannot dissipate heat. So now you are left with few options as a phone manufacturer. Either you use separate copper piping to cool the SoC just as what Xiaomi did with Poco F1. The other and cheapest option which BBK is following is under-clock the SoC so that it operates say 90% of its performance envelope because pushing above 90% will dissipate a lot of heat by SD660. And this is exactly what Vivo, Oppo & RealMe has done. All the three phones mentioned above, Realme 2 Pro, Vivo V9 Pro & Vivo V11 Pro have the SD660 under-clocked where the four main CPU cores are clocked @ 2.0 GHz where as in actual it is @2.2 GHz as found in Nokia 7 Plus.
Vivo & RealMe are under-clocking the SD660 even though they are not telling this in open, and this has a direct impact on performance. Also the SoC is throttling under sustained usage as the heat generated by SD660 cannot be dissipated by the cheap plastic. Also Realme 2 Pro cannot shoot video @ 4K as it will cause a lot of heat generated by SoC and the phone will crash. On the other hand Nokia 7 Plus is offering 4K with the same SD660 SoC as it is able to handle the heat.
So in the end we are left with two options, either opt for cheap but spec heavy phones like RealMe 2 Pro which you are willing to throw away within 3 years at @ INR 14K base price. Or you buy a phone like Nokia 7 Plus which is built like a tank and will live a lifetime with you. But quality does not come cheap so you need to shell out @ INR 24K to grab a Nokia 7 plus. I personally opt for the latter.
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- random
- sS{
- 19 Oct 2018
is this thing could run fortnite?
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- Babu
- YQA
- 19 Oct 2018
Rajinders, 18 Oct 2018Your observations are on dot ...rightly said it is not snap... moreYou can set Mp3 tone on your realme phones I'm using but you can't select via File explorer
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- Viki
- y5m
- 19 Oct 2018
Anonymous, 18 Oct 2018Doesn't come that's stupid no phone comes with tempered gla... moreRealme 2 Pro has a protective layer with tempered glass thickness. It not the old plastic screen protector.
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- Anonymous
- rAM
- 18 Oct 2018
Anonymous, 18 Oct 2018What I meant by external GPU is the external GPUs you can a... moreOk. Thanks.
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- Anonymous
- Dky
- 18 Oct 2018
Anonymous, 18 Oct 2018Hi, I'm not of the arguing type. To answer your statements ... moreWhat I meant by external GPU is the external GPUs you can attached to your Intel and AMD processors. Apple doesn't support such modifications to it's pc. iMac is technically still a pc. If one is looking to buy the top tier specs pc it makes perfect sense to compare iMac to other pc. Although Intel did made external gpu back in the days but they never got released. And yet again Intel is looking forward to manufacturing it's gpu by 2020. But that's in the future we're talking about the present here.
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- Jjbb
- HsL
- 18 Oct 2018
Anonymous, 18 Oct 2018Honor is the Huawei to goIs it suitable for purchase or any other smartphone you suggest me
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- Anonymous
- Dky
- 18 Oct 2018
Jjbb , 18 Oct 2018Realme 2 pro or Honour zx 4 64 I want to purchase Honor is the Huawei to go
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- Anonymous
- Dky
- 18 Oct 2018
Rajinders, 18 Oct 2018I couldn't be certain so this question... Whether this pho... moreDoesn't come that's stupid no phone comes with tempered glass. Some come with protective plastic but never tempered.
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- Nonu
- ke}
- 18 Oct 2018
This phone working in canada
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- Boi
- y@V
- 18 Oct 2018
Rajinders, 18 Oct 2018I couldn't be certain so this question... Whether this pho... morePlastic screen guard
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- Anonymous
- rAf
- 18 Oct 2018
Anonymous, 18 Oct 2018Hi, I'm not of the arguing type. To answer your statements ... moreA small correction to my previous reply.
Please replace my statement "Apple
will never sell their hardware or softwares to
anyone." with "Apple
will never sell their hardware or softwares to
anyone other than end consumers."
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- Anonymous
- rAM
- 18 Oct 2018
Anonymous, 18 Oct 2018lol apple a12 is used on iphone xs and max. you said smartp... moreHi, I'm not of the arguing type. To answer your statements shortly, Apple runs their own world. You can't and shouldn't compare Apple products even with similar products like that of Intel, AMD, Microsoft and Google. Why? Learn by yourself. Start learning about the history of Apple Inc. and Steve Jobs. Generally, I don't teach anyone. I would just show everyone the way. It is your wish to increase your knowledge and wisdom. To end up Intel doesn't manufacture external GPUs. They always go with their own internal GPUs and recently they partnered with AMD to release their processors with AMD-Vega implanted internal GPUs. Finally, Apple will never sell their hardware or softwares to anyone. But, tomorrow might be a different day. Who knows!!! Think twice before you speak and think thrice before you write. Good Luck.
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- Jjbb
- HsL
- 18 Oct 2018
Realme 2 pro or Honour zx 4 64 I want to purchase
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- Anonymous
- Dky
- 18 Oct 2018
Anonymous, 17 Oct 2018Smart answer though you haven't compared the said processor... morelol apple a12 is used on iphone xs and max. you said smartphone so makes perfect sense to put in the a12. and we all know apple has always been faster than intels. given the generation of cpus apple has always been on top of intel. Where the intel shines is in its external gpu.
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- Rajinders
- f}x
- 18 Oct 2018
I couldn't be certain so this question...
Whether this phone comes with Tempered glass or
with a screen guard out of the box.
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- Anonymous
- vGu
- 18 Oct 2018
why no notifications icons in the status bar?
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- Rajinders
- f}x
- 18 Oct 2018
MrCCK, 18 Oct 2018Have been using this phone for a week
Pros: 100 GB space, ... moreYour observations are on dot ...rightly said it is not snappy despite with sd660 under the hood.
My other phone Mi A1 with sd625 is more snappy compared to this ...may be because that is an Android one device.
Realme people should bring necessary changes in OS to set mp3 tunes as Ringtones in it.
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- MrCCK
- tUc
- 18 Oct 2018
Have been using this phone for a week
Pros: 100 GB space, nice screen, good os shortcuts if you can figure them out, good camera, good sound output.
Can install Microsoft Launcher if you miss the app drawer a lot. Used it for a while and went back to the default launcher.
Cons: Face recognition doesn't work all the time, takes a long time to charge, unable to change ringtone to an mp3 file of choice -- which is very irritating.
Default settings exposes notfications, including OTP numbers on lockscreen!!!! Please turn that off.
Also don't find it very snappy as some people seem to suggest
Is anyone else facing issue with changing ringtone of your choice?
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- Janakiram
- DkU
- 18 Oct 2018
How to change themes and how to create folder for apps.