Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra review
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- 02 Mar 2020
higher, 02 Mar 20201. Meizu used Exynos 2 years ago, they switched to Snapdrag... more1. Doesn't matter the company is famous or not. It isn't the thing you said.. I showed your ignorance.
2. Qualcomm introduced their 64 bit chipset sharp at one year and two months after.. Ignorance at its best.
And stop showing articles from others. Show what you got inside your empty head.
And article literally refers to Qualcomm's semi custom CPUs.. You've just showed a article against you. Can't you understand by reading. Ignorance again
3. Who said faster? I said powerful. That doesn't mean faster.. It highly depends on software optimization on each comparative chipset.. although S8 (Exynos) was faster than S8 (Snapdragon) Learn to read
4. I'm saying that before than you.
And Apple architecture powerful obviously but not by far and not more efficient than even some of other mid range chipsets. Want proof go check out some of gsm battery test results..
Narrower transistors, efficiency, a illiterate won't understand these words if hasn't any basic idea and education about these.
5. It's not rename of CPUs but reconstruction of those.. I clearly said those are semi custom which are based on those cores.. It's impossible to get any basic studying for a guy like you but in this era of internet you could get some Infos at least..
Well count from May 2017 it isn't 3 years yet, let alone 4 years. You can't even do a simple math..
And sometime you're also proving yourself wrong XD
6. I used the 'same' to understand you common uses of all chipset and the intention to make those. Learn to understand by reading.
7. Why should a performance core does need to be efficiency on mandatory. Those are intend for make to excel the performance on the highest throttle if needed. For efficiency there are 6 or 7 more cores (today's standard chipsets) to handle..
8. I've their report and I'm totally aware of that. Yet they have less profit on smartphone sales than last year but didn't loss. And I showed the recent report as they entered in top 20.
And where did you get R&D cost infos? Please let me know.. Microarchitectures R&D obviously one of most costly, but entirely and there other sectors as well. Such as facilities of work field and software sphere.. Which are way way more large sector than Microarchitecture with way more employees and facilities.. As a student of the Respective subject I wouldn't feel shame to claim that.
9. Ok
10. I'm a regular visitor of their site didn't saw anything on GPU performance.. Work your brain sometime rather than refering others.
If you had basic study on these you definitely would understand how GPU does work for display or multimedia or all video and graphical performances..
That's why I don't believe anyone blindly specially any of Apple favoured reviewer (Anandtech). Every time I do test or research and math by myself. Only then I confirmed. Go check actual benchmark sites rather than unknowingly believing on any paid or favoured site. I don't need to say further.. That's why education is so important for one.. Yes A12X bionic matches you words but that's for other use.
I would definitely stop if I was wrong.. But best of luck.. I'm ready to answer your next reply
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- 02 Mar 2020
AnonD-754814, 02 Mar 2020WTF !
Do you have any idea what you are talking ? This is... morehttps://www.macrumors.com/2017/07/24/apple-to-set-up-oled-panel-line-taiwan/
Seems you’re the one don’t know shit.
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AnonD-754814, 02 Mar 2020I'm curious to know an information. / Is there any part in... moreAll iPhone parts designed and architecture by Apple manufacturing by other OEM’s like TSMC, Samsung and Sony got the point. Apple working in there own screen micro led, but still not ready yet.
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higher, 02 Mar 2020Apple acquired chemical vapor deposition (CVD) machinery fo... moreI'm curious to know an information. /
Is there any part in iPhone 11pro which was made by Apple ?
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higher, 02 Mar 2020Apple acquired chemical vapor deposition (CVD) machinery fo... moreWTF !
Do you have any idea what you are talking ? This is why I said earlier ...
Apple fans don't know sh*tt.
CVD is used to produce displays, not to design them.
What's to designs Display when the tech design is there by Samsung, LG, Sharp etc etc.
It's not like Apple wll do better design than Samsung without having any experience in Display department.
When it will happen, The display will be made by Apple too. Only designing doesn't work for display.
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AnonD-754814, 02 Mar 2020You can't use rumors as proof. This fits for both the GSM... moreApple acquired chemical vapor deposition (CVD) machinery for OLED R&D from Sunic System in 2017. Who else is buying such machinery? Samsung Display and LG Display. What about the LTPO-OLED screens on the Apple Watches? This OLED display backplane technology was developed by Apple.
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higher, 02 Mar 2020The referenced article by Reuters is the only one claiming ... moreYou can't use rumors as proof.
This fits for both the GSMarena and Reuters post.
According to your GSMARENA post, Apple display should have been made by themselves. As my knowledge no company in history did design display and made by others. Additionally Apple doesn't care which part is made by who as long as those parts perform well and provide Apple with more profit. They don't even make their smartphone themself, why would they bother to produce display !
And for the modem. This will happen in the futute.
Currently relationship between Sammy and Qualcomm isn't good.
So, Samsung might not get the contract at all.
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AnonD-754814, 02 Mar 2020Forget the modem..
Their entire 700 series are made by Sa... moreThe referenced article by Reuters is the only one claiming that Samsung will manufacture X60s as well. I take it with a pinch of salt considering that TSMC has a lot better density at 5nm than Samsung meaning the Samsung manufactured chips would be bigger in physical size and would also have different efficiency characteristics.
Also:
https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_is_switching_to_inhouse_oled_screens_in_2018-news-26356.php
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The Last Oracle, 02 Mar 2020Because Samsung came to the 7nm party a little late, and th... moreNah, not because of that.
Qualcomm was going for Samsung. Then when Samsung shut down mongoose core division and moving back to ARM design like Qualcomm and then partnered with AMD to design Samsung's own GPU . Everything has changed.
I don't know why, but Qualcomm moved to TSMC deliberately even though Samsung's 7nm EUV is better than TSMC's 7nm process.
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AnonD-754814, 02 Mar 2020Tell me your opinion on the matter ,,
Why did Qualcomm mov... moreBecause Samsung came to the 7nm party a little late, and then was busy concentrating on 5nm and 7nm chips. And that's why Snapdragon didn't use Samsung foundry.
Btw, there is also an underlying competition/rivalry between the Samsung Exynos and Snapdragon SoC based on their core designs. Now that the Mongoose Cores have been laid to rest, this should hopefully, be reduced too.
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AnonD-762416, 02 Mar 2020That is Apple spinsters for you. "Apple designed" is their ... moreAnd it went above my head. What did you try to prove ?
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Who knows, 02 Mar 2020By reading all comments and replies from the beginning I ca... moreHe is right about one thing though. Qualcomm no longer uses custom core. May be since SD 820 when SD810 failed completely they moved to ARM base design. They had a deal with ARM. thats why Qualcomm can rename The ARM cotex design to 'Kryo' and other companies don't.
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AnonD-754814, 02 Mar 2020Your information are far from being fact. How do you know t... moreThat is Apple spinsters for you. "Apple designed" is their tears-in-the-throat lingo for admitting they're nothing but an OEM.
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Nick Tagataka, 02 Mar 2020"it's obvious that Apple doesn't want the SoC design to fel... moreTell me your opinion on the matter ,,
Why did Qualcomm move to TSMC at the very last moment for 865 SoC production instead of Samsung.
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higher, 02 Mar 2020Sorry but yet another lie. Qualcomm's Snapdragon X60 is man... moreForget the modem..
Their entire 700 series are made by Samsung.
Samsung has made processor for both Intel and AMD too.
TSMC is nowhere near Samsung when it comes to semiconductor business.
Samsung has the highest market share around 18% even more than Intel .
TSMC mainly just makes SoC.
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higher, 02 Mar 2020The amount of lies and misinformation on this forum is stag... moreYour information are far from being fact. How do you know the other parts are not from Samsung ? As Samsung is the biggest semiconductor manufacturers(even intel is behinf them), There might be many parts in apple which are made by Samsung.
And How on earth Apple be able to give display design to Samsung ? Apple has no experience or ability to do that.
You are another apple fanboy.
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Who knows, 02 Mar 2020Don't talk like a d***
It's not like Apple don't use Sam... moreBro,, I was saying that. Not him.
Anyway I stay with my opinion and that's true. That's the same reason(well, almost) Qualcomm didn't go to Samsung for 865 as Samsung is moving to ARM's core directly like Qualcomm. Though I am not sure that this is the true reason Qualcomm didn't choose Samsung, there might be other reasons.
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The Last Oracle, 02 Mar 2020You have absolutely no idea. Neither about Bayer nor about ... moreI don't see much wrong with that explanation.
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Who knows, 02 Mar 2020By reading all comments and replies from the beginning I ca... moreI was referring to iPhones only while you said Apple products. Some Macbooks and iPads have DDR4/LPDDR4 memory from Samsung but the storage is almost always from Toshiba. It's a little correction but still very far away from your 40-60 ratio.
Other than that Qualcomm DOES NOT design custom CPU cores for years. Exynos is irrelevant (next to Snapdragon). These are true statements.
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Nick Tagataka, 02 Mar 2020"it's obvious that Apple doesn't want the SoC design to fel... moreThey can't steal it directly. It will be a criminal act. But they certainly can take a peak and use that experience to improve their exynos SoC.