Camera test: iPhone 12 Pro Max vs. Mate 40 Pro vs. Xperia 1 II vs. Galaxy Note20 Ultra

27 November 2020


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  • 01 Dec 2020

Android Authority, 01 Dec 2020But that 2x zoom module is much higher quality. Infact it ... moreI really don't understand how I keep seeing all the droidheads complaining about iPhone 'gimmicks'

You want to talk about gimmicks, well lets take a look at the android space shall we:

Useless extra camera's - like the pointless 'depth' monochrome' and 'macro's' that might as well just be stickers on the back of the device, just so a claim of multiple cameras can be made.
Curved screens - because i want to view all my content side on apparently.....
TOF cameras - sorry but these things do absolutely nothing on any of the droids that have them.
Air gestures - because not touching your device is apparently a thing.....
space zooms - because being able to take a fuzzy undefinable image of the coast of Australia all the way from India is what we all want it seems.
4k screens - because I want to hold my device 2mm away from my eyes whenever I use it.
Bucket loads of un-needed RAM - I get it, android could be more efficient yes, but 16gb of RAM!! sorry by the time that amount is actually required, the device will be well out of the software support cycle needed to optimise for it.

These are just a small number of the 'gimmicks' droids have in the past or do now feature, android is the very home of 'gimmicks' after all.

The telephoto lens on the 12 pro and Max (especially the Max) are less about being able to spy on people from a different time zone, and are more aimed at optimising for portrait photography. Apple haven't really looked at distance zooming yet.

    Regedit, 01 Dec 2020so are you from china? or Imported the Mi ultra from china?... moreNah..I am from France. Imported the phone.

    You ask for evidence of Mi 10 ultra being top 3??
    It's OK, Don't believe my personal opinion... just check the review on this site or DxOMark or any other tech site that has reviewed the phone.

    You are just salty that two Chinese manufacturers (Huawei & Xiaomi) have produced phones that are in the top 3 cameras in the market.

      JDK, 01 Dec 2020Ha lol. You totally forgot about aperture. Did you know ... moreI am comparing telephoto lens. The 2x telephoto/Potrait sensor is as big as iPhones main sensor. IPhone telephoto is way smaller 1/3.4" sensor. Has inferior PDAF, no dual pixel AF.

      You are bragging about f1.6 with 1/2.55" sensor (which is the main sensor)
      Mi 10 ultra has 1/1.3" as main sensor which is way bigger and lets in a lot more light than the old sensor used on iPhone 12 pro.

      Gsmarena recommended to keep night mode on at all times as image quality sharply detoriates. That's just physics, you can't make a small sensor perform like big sensor.

        Waiting for 1III anyway, will be pretty soon after all.

          Anonymous, 29 Nov 2020The sky is never totally black in the city because of light... moredid i say "totally" black somewhere? i clearly recall i used "almost" black, as the degree of "blackness" of the sky is different in the urban, suburban, countryside... not to mention that, when in open field or in mountains, where having a large azimuth, the colour / degree of blackness changes, as you turn around, upon the existence of local sources of light (cities, villages, or something else). you, and the others with the same problem of the "black sky is not black", more than "let's try it" did not take a lot night pictures out in the open, or in the city for that matter..., didn't you?

            Android Authority, 01 Dec 2020My Wife uses the MI 10 ultra. It's camera is just sup... moreso are you from china? or Imported the Mi ultra from china? which is correct?

            In isolation, all high-end phones perform well, if not excellent. how did you confirm at all that its best, just bcoz you own a phone. with that logic i can say all my phones are great and will make to top 3.

            do you have any evidence to backup your claims? Ironically you call me that i depend on reviews and you are doing the same. Giving an opinion, of a review, that you think is correct.

            Well, i know and whole world knows what comes out of china.

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              • Anonymous
              • y}%
              • 01 Dec 2020

              Xperia is the worst one among all flagships.
              Well.. it happens every year

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                • Anonymous
                • K5W
                • 01 Dec 2020

                Moto edge+, asus zenfone 7 pro and xiaomi mi 10 ultra are more interesting for me. I thougt they have better camera but they are so underrated, maybe because of limited market availability

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                  • 01 Dec 2020

                  Nick Tagataka, 30 Nov 2020My instagram account is linked to my real name (in case you... morewait you guys have instagram accounts?

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                    • JDK
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                    • 01 Dec 2020

                    Android Authority, 01 Dec 2020But that 2x zoom module is much higher quality. Infact it ... moreHa lol. You totally forgot about aperture.

                    Did you know that the 1/2.55" sensor(the older main sensor) has a f/1.6 aperture? The xiaomi zoom sensor has a f/2.0 aperture. Good job totally missing out on that.

                    Oh. Did I hear "nobody cares about aperture?"? Hmm...

                    "relies on night mode at all times"

                    Nice joke there sir.
                    Didn't gsmarena's tests either have all phones have night mode off or all phones night mode on?
                    iPhones compete very well with NIGHT MODE OFF.
                    Oh well, can't convince an apple hater that iPhones do good on an even basis.

                      JDK, 30 Nov 2020That "dedicated portrait lens" of yours IS a 2x z... moreBut that 2x zoom module is much higher quality.
                      Infact it is about the same size as the one used on iPhone 12 pro main sensor complete with dual pixel AF.

                      Best 2x optical zoom photos on the market, day or night.
                      The quality is superb unlike on iPhones which rely on night mode at all times yet fails to match up in the image quality department.

                      Don't even get me started on the 5x optical zoom behind another big imx 586 sensor that just embarrasses the iPhone's 2.5x optical zoom gimmick.

                        iOS.Never.Again, 30 Nov 2020Yes the iPhone Potrait mode makes the images look fake beca... moreYes yes yes! You are right!
                        Natural background blur wins everytime.
                        No more gimmicky Potrait mode needed.

                          Regedit, 30 Nov 2020Global comparison - Comparison of camera phones available /... moreMy Wife uses the MI 10 ultra.
                          It's camera is just superb.

                          People like you may have to rely on reviews.
                          BTW, the reviews all over the Internet are great.
                          You must be one of those guys who thinks anything Chinese must be bad.

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                            • 30 Nov 2020

                            x3merrr, 30 Nov 2020Its really difficult to compare them and your comparing too... moreThis comparison is a subjective opinion. I think GsmA also said what phone did better and worse if you read the article carefully enough and observe the photos/videos.

                              Well poco and xiaomi will be covered when the comparison will be between cheap Chinese phones and the topic will “Battle of Chinese Phones” ;)

                                Its really difficult to compare them and your comparing tool supports only 2.
                                ...you not picking the winner in each category makes it even more difficult. I thought I'd be loving this battle.

                                  Great article. Thanks for you patience.

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                                    • Shui8
                                    • KZK
                                    • 30 Nov 2020

                                    Nick Tagataka, 30 Nov 2020My instagram account is linked to my real name (in case you... moreAhh I see...u can just follow me then. My profile link already on previous comment.

                                    Of course only if u interested 😁

                                    On a site note, a bit dissapoint vanilla Mate 40 might not launch in my country (just Pro version, still havent launch). Been thinking of just grabbing vanilla P40. Love the smaller footprint along with flagship worthy camera. Its only $560 now.

                                      Shui8, 30 Nov 2020Exactly! What about my previous reply to you Nick? Not i... moreMy instagram account is linked to my real name (in case you didn't know - my username in GSMArena is a completely made up one), so I'm afraid I can't do that. Sorry.

                                        Regedit, 30 Nov 2020I took your point and got a second look for Main camera: Da... morea. Already addressed in my previous comment.

                                        b. Please go ahead and tell me which phone resolves details on the balcony and branches of the trees in front of the building (and in the windows reflection) the most accurately then.

                                        c. Note and Mate resolve the details the best in the blue van. iPhone smudges out some of the lines in the headlight and letters on the mask package whereas Xperia fares poorly due to lens distortion. As for the plate that you mentioned, try to count the number of stars on the left side of the number and tell me on which phones you're able to do so.