Camera test: iPhone 12 Pro Max vs. Mate 40 Pro vs. Xperia 1 II vs. Galaxy Note20 Ultra

27 November 2020


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  • 30 Nov 2020

Regedit, 30 Nov 2020Global comparison - Comparison of camera phones available /... moreMi 10 Ultra is just another gimmick in the market despite being one of the most complete flagships available.

OK, the camera is not a gimmick, it is awesome, fingers crossed.

The 120W charging is rubbish, it overheats your phone. There's uncertainty in MIUI, cheap half-baked OS.

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    • Shui8
    • KZK
    • 30 Nov 2020

    Regedit, 30 Nov 2020Global comparison - Comparison of camera phones available /... more'How did you conclude Mi Ultra is in top 3?? let me guess, you tube videos....aha there you go'

    I'm not agree either about that guy ask to put Mi 10 Ultra for comparison (availability, different timing flagship) but its image quality for sure damn good.
    - https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_10_ultra-review-2158p6.php

    Again, your ignorance about certain brand are obvious.

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      • Shui8
      • KZK
      • 30 Nov 2020

      Regedit, 30 Nov 2020Oh my, a very detailed pic with wrong colors, say, grass co... moreStop exaggerate. Grass is still green. Colors can easily corrected using HSL management. And it all depends on u on how its gonna be. Your excuse pretty much sums up youre not too keen about photography world.

      Smudgy details (cannot recover) over slight color shift (can easily recover). Yeah sure, stick with your opinion. I wonder how your photography style looks like.

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        • Shui8
        • KZK
        • 30 Nov 2020

        Regedit, 30 Nov 2020If master AI boosts color, then the color of sky is boosted... moreMaster AI often stylized your photos based on scene detection. Social media crazed will love it, but not me. Always turn it off.

        'Snail photos or building photos, the sky appeared out of ordinary in Mate 40 photos. Rest other phones got it right, as simple as that.'
        - Unless u have a problem with your eye, sky color on the snail photo looks exactly the same on all 4 phones. So according to u, all phones took out of ordinary sky color lol.

        Seems to me u doesnt even care to examine the words I'm saying previously. Nice diversion about the image details taken.

          Anonymous, 29 Nov 2020Nope. It's because Xiaomi overprocesses, has poor col... moreFull of lies! U better try Xiaomi flagships, they produce the most natural colours, way better than others!

            Android Authority, 30 Nov 2020Who said this is a global comparison? It's simply a c... moreGlobal comparison - Comparison of camera phones available / released globally, not restricted to a region / country. Poor sales , waiting period is secondary topic.

            How did you conclude Mi Ultra is in top 3?? let me guess, you tube videos....aha there you go

              JDK, 28 Nov 2020"The Mi 10 Ultra was launched last week and sales numb... moreNobody cares about how many iPhones were sold.
              Never said Mi 10 ultra is selling more than iPhone.
              But it does offer premium all round experience unlike the 3rd grade hardware of iPhone 12 pro Max like 2.5x zoom, smaller 1/1.7" sensor, lack of dedicated Potrait lens, 3rd grade 20W charging, 3rd grade 60hz refresh rate, no charger inside the box, etc.

                Regedit, 29 Nov 2020Well if its so brilliant, Xiaomi should have released it gl... moreWho said this is a global comparison?
                It's simply a camera comparison which should have included the best camera smartphones of the year. Mi 10 ultra is certainly right up there in top 3.

                By your global availability logic, the Xperia 1 II shouldn't be in the list as it has poor availability across the globe.
                It also was made available 5 months after launch to consumers.

                  Nick Tagataka, 30 Nov 2020What? The detail rendition is widely regarded as one of the... moreOh my, a very detailed pic with wrong colors, say, grass colored in blue or red. Is that acceptable.

                  It is truly disappointing that Mate 40 could nt get it right this year, but lame reasons is making its case worse.

                    Shui8, 30 Nov 2020Dude, I'm not talking about the timing between the bui... moreIf master AI boosts color, then the color of sky is boosted to purple. Master AI is rubbish.

                    Snail photos or building photos, the sky appeared out of ordinary in Mate 40 photos.
                    Rest other phones got it right, as simple as that.

                      VectorR, 29 Nov 2020I don't know what are you talking about, sorry. Aggres... moreThis guy has been repeating the same things about hdr for years now.
                      He simply refuses to accept that hdr settings can be tweaked and continues to make a blanket statement about hdr producing artificial photos.
                      Doesn't even have a Sony phone yet he defends them blindly in every thread.

                        Anonymous, 28 Nov 2020I have from z series. Check review from BBk phones. A... moreYou have Z series.. Which means even worse quality pics than the Xperia 1 series.
                        Atleast they improved processing on newer flagship range.

                        I don't need to read reviews.
                        My OP8 pro produces far from waxy or plastic look photos. Same for Oppo and Vivo.
                        Realme may have that problem since they never bothered to use a flagship camera sensor.

                        Maybe you need to stop reading reviews blindly and start actually using these phones before judging quality. It's clear that you have not tested these flagship sensors from 2020 and just blindly making assumptions on photo quality based on the budget offerings from these companies.

                          JDK, 28 Nov 2020You are such a joke. iPhone portraits look fake? Good... moreYes the iPhone Potrait mode makes the images look fake because of that unnatural blur.
                          Sure they might do a decent job of isolating the subject and fewer artifacts around hair and other things, but I am referring to the overall image here, the artificial blur makes it look like someone copy pasted the person in that image.

                          Android phones with big sensors under 1/1.4" don't need Potrait mode, just point and shoot and we get natural background blur which looks great and natural.

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                            • Shui8
                            • KZK
                            • 30 Nov 2020

                            Nick Tagataka, 30 Nov 2020What? The detail rendition is widely regarded as one of the... moreExactly!

                            What about my previous reply to you Nick? Not interested in instagram? We can share our both opinion regarding photography 😁

                              Regedit, 30 Nov 2020Dont you think thats a little biased opinion. too much of c... moreWhat? The detail rendition is widely regarded as one of the most important basics that you need to look at when comparing image quality.

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                                • Anonymous
                                • gBV
                                • 30 Nov 2020

                                The Mate 40 Pro 67mm digital zoom is even more impressive when you consider that the camera is equivalent to 23mm. But I think that Apple could have achieved more with the 65mm camera. Theoretically a 23.1mm camera would need 95 megapixels in order to compete with 12.2 megapixels 64.5mm.

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • gBV
                                  • 30 Nov 2020

                                  Surprising how good the Mate 40 Pro is at 2.5x. It seems that they are able to use the 50 megapixels of the Quad Bayer sensor without causing the typical artifacts. Even the edges look good. Samsung even doesn't try to use the 108 megapixel resolution and simply uses a crop of a 12 megapixel pixel binning result.
                                  Actually the Huawei Honor View 20's Ultra Clarity mode already delivered the best Quad Bayer high resolution sharpness, but for some time Huawei neglected the Ultra Clarity Mode and Huawei's digital zoom still didn't work very well. Now the results seem to be better, though they look a bit artificial.

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                                    • Shui8
                                    • KZK
                                    • 30 Nov 2020

                                    Regedit, 30 Nov 2020Dont you think thats a little biased opinion. too much of c... moreDude, I'm not talking about the timing between the building photos, of course it is likely around the same timing. What I meant are the sky color between the building & the snail photos, only Mate 40 looks consistent. If the snail photos takens minutes away from the building, means that others got inconsistent sky color. Correct me if I'm wrong.

                                    We also dont know wether on Huawei taken using Master AI or not (Master AI often boost sky color). Even if the color science slightly wrong, I would have choose the one with much nicer detail. Colors can easily corrected using HSL management, whereas u cant bring details when its not there in the first place. On my every final images, pics always edited anyway.

                                    There is differences between theory conspiracies & opinion based on facts on what user needed the most.

                                      Shui8, 29 Nov 2020If u compared the snail photos, the sky colors look the sam... moreDont you think thats a little biased opinion. too much of conspiracy theories...

                                      why dont you just look at the time on the clock ( in the pics above snail photo) + plus the cars in parking lot.

                                      You say that its all "staged" to ensure Huawei is compelled to shoot the sky with purple tint??

                                      Seriously, doesn't matter how much detail the pic has if the basics are wrong. and yes apply your logic and change the methods, every phone will produce a different result than what you see. but that's not what comparison is for, correct?

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • vV5
                                        • 30 Nov 2020

                                        Anonymous, 29 Nov 2020Open the module of cellphone camera. All elements have sa... moreYou are lying through your teeth. All 1/2.3" compact cameras suffer from soft corner sharpness and mushy details, simply because of their tiny sensors and poor quality of the zoom lens (compared to prime lens on smartphones). What's more, your Sony camera is using 20 MP on such a tiny sensor. Can't imagine the noise levels.