Sony Xperia 5 III review

03 August 2021


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>top 20 comments from 12 different users all hounding after one single Sony fanboy
And they say Xperia reviews are filled with Snoy white knights 🤔

    Stanley Kubrick, 07 Aug 2021Why all the Sony haters here? What's the point? Do you... moreWhat an innovative way of deflecting really well explained points/discussion by Shui8,
    Rkm and others :D
    When PR department meets the reality, it's not always so pretty, is it?

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      • Shui8
      • KZK
      • 08 Aug 2021

      Tann Hauser, 08 Aug 2021He is dead wrong on that. Sony uses SoCs ISP for BionzX mo... moreBionz X mobile is an image processing, not a processor. It differ from the one on Alpha camera which using a chip, but same intention. Both got nothing to do about 3d iToF DOF advancement, even Sony never said that. If it is, why Alpha series dont implement it on their Full Frame camera so they can achieve near to Medium Format depth of field? 🤦

      The same goes to previous Xperia Bravia Engine, which using a software instead of chips their TV use. During Sony Ericsson unlock bootloader era, I can even extract the files inside customization folder and applied it to other brand's phone (just make sure that the phone have Sony's Album app installed 1st).

      All your statements here are confusing, imagination by your own definitive which made a lot of Sony fans mad. Not to mention your knowledge about cameras & photography as well.

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        • Rkm
        • ypc
        • 08 Aug 2021

        Tann Hauser, 08 Aug 2021Never said that. I said you have to use auto or manual fo... more"BionzX for proper DSLRs doesnt have code for iToF data crunch, BionzXmobile does, except in 5 III it doesnt recieve that data, and therefore ISPs end results are different to 1 III.
        Plain, simple, logical..."

        But primary and ultrawide results are literally the same.

        "You three think application of iToF data doesnt work that way and that it doesnt affect the end ISP result in any way, so prove it.
        Or dont. I cant prove my claim either, and Im not expecting you to prove yours, as you cant except if you are, or know, an actual Sony BionzX coder."

        That's not how it works. You said something without proof, that's it. If your claims were valid, you would be able to disprove whatever we said properly.

        "Bottom line:
        "Every camera sensor works differently and has different properties. Camera designs and output image requirements also differ based on use-cases and applications. The image signal processor needs to be tuned to these variances to derive the perfect output image for a given setup.""

        That's BS again, because in this particular issue it isn't a sensor issue but an optics issue which was the argument from the beginning. So while being true, none of that applies here.

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          • Rkm
          • ypc
          • 08 Aug 2021

          Tann Hauser, 08 Aug 2021Never said that. I said you have to use auto or manual fo... moreThis is what you said,

          "So tell me, which exact flower/object you believe was chosen by AF in this example:
          https://fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/21/sony-xperia-1-iii/daylight/gsmarena_110.jpg

          I recognize at least 12 of them in focus, all popping across the entire sensor area.
          How can that be, I wonder, if the lens can only focus on one at a time?"

          ^That shows you don't know what plane of focus is.

          "Yeah, as I figured, so finally admitting other multiple sensor autofocus points also working at same time in processing. Great to see you come to your senses."



          "Plane of focus doesn't have anything to do with autofocus in sensor dude"
          !?

          God, all mighty.
          Obviously it has something to do with manual only focus in sensor then."

          ^That shows you don't know what plane of focus is. Also, you said that.

          Basically you are just confused when multiple focus points on the same focal plane but different parts of sensor go off to attain focus.

          The end.

            Rkm, 08 Aug 2021Lol, we have to provide proof for something you said? If yo... moreNever said that.
            I said you have to use auto or manual focus to first focus, to get to focal plane.
            I from the start claim iToF depth data is used in ISP mobile processing, as it is a part of camera setup, and its not only about the optics to determine the amount of blur applied across the photo after ISP processing.

            BionzX for proper DSLRs doesnt have code for iToF data crunch, BionzXmobile does, except in 5 III it doesnt recieve that data, and therefore ISPs end results are different to 1 III.
            Plain, simple, logical...

            You three think application of iToF data doesnt work that way and that it doesnt affect the end ISP result in any way, so prove it.
            Or dont. I cant prove my claim either, and Im not expecting you to prove yours, as you cant except if you are, or know, an actual Sony BionzX coder.

            But Im not the one who started circle backing with insults here.

            From ISP code programmers themselves:

            Bottom line:
            "Every camera sensor works differently and has different properties. Camera designs and output image requirements also differ based on use-cases and applications. The image signal processor needs to be tuned to these variances to derive the perfect output image for a given setup."

              Nick Tegrataker, 08 Aug 2021Interesting, so does it mean Sony is basically calling a se... moreHe is dead wrong on that.
              Sony uses SoCs ISP for BionzX mobile code crunching. Its not just some system app emulating. That would ve ridiculous and frankly impossible.
              All phones use SoCs ISP, either with their own made code, or qualcomms code.

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                • Rkm
                • ypc
                • 08 Aug 2021

                Tann Hauser, 08 Aug 2021I thought you said "Have a happy weeknd"? He&#... moreLol, we have to provide proof for something you said? If you claim something, it's on you to provide proof. And your proof was just "dude, trust me".
                Also patronising started when you said manual focus cameras don't have plane of focus.

                  VectorR, 07 Aug 2021Sony believes that image processing (post-processing) must ... moreso, if you do not know to cook everybody should eat frozen tv dinners? i like better home cooking and i like better to control the look of the pictures i take, thus i prefer camera phones like xperia as an ultraportable, always ready, always available, real camera lieu-tenant :), though limited when it comes to pure optical performances. and nobody imposes you to buy one, there are plenty of really good point-and-shoot cameras ready to deliver prefab pictures, and some are quite good, see xiaomi and the others in the class.

                    Nick Tegrataker, 08 Aug 2021Yeah, that definitely seems to be the case. That's als... moreYou mean "Like Sony didnt include HDR algorithms in its BionzX for mobile explanation set"?
                    I thought you were the "if it aint exactly claimed from Sony source, it aint there" kinnda of a guy?
                    Well, at least you explained away all my links that same way.

                      Rkm, 07 Aug 2021That's his thing. He blatantly ignores and doesn'... moreI thought you said "Have a happy weeknd"?

                      He's source is BionzX for dedicated DSLR, and we re discussing mobile camera processing here.

                      Why dont the three of you stooges, for a change, just go and email Sonys mobile camera processing algorithm code developers, about what exact processing and enhancements are actually done on Xperia, including the ones going through BionzX for mobile.
                      So we can settle this?

                      Im getting tired of your patronizing insulting circle backs.


                        [deleted post]IMO "I like the company A because I like their products such as X and Y" is still a healthy mindset.
                        If it turns into something like "I like the products X and Y because I like the company A and I will defend A no matter what" after a long period of brand loyalism, however (such as one user who a few others and I had been talking to in this comment section), it will be very alarming and potentially toxic.

                          Rkm, 07 Aug 2021That's his thing. He blatantly ignores and doesn'... moreYeah, that definitely seems to be the case. That's also why he managed to reach his own spectacular conclusion that I was claiming "any other processing enhancements, like HDR for ex, seem to be dependant on optics only" - only because I didn't include HDR in the list of Bionz X's features. It really drains my vitality talking to that guy, honestly.

                            Shui8, 07 Aug 2021You're not wrong. Its all software on Xperia. The b... moreInteresting, so does it mean Sony is basically calling a set of particular software image processing algorithms a Bionz X for mobile, instead of using a dedicated hardware?

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                              • Anonymous
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                              • 07 Aug 2021

                              Anonymous, 07 Aug 2021Can't you see the hate is not on the phone, but the fa... morelol, same thing applied for all those chinese phones

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                                • Kxv
                                • 07 Aug 2021

                                Stanley Kubrick, 07 Aug 2021Why all the Sony haters here? What's the point? Do you... moreCan't you see the hate is not on the phone, but the fanboys? This 5 III is a reasonably good phone, but the Sony fanboys have to come and spoil this comment section with lies and cheap potshots at other brands.

                                  Why all the Sony haters here? What's the point? Do you think that due to your personal opinions you are going to dissuade even one person from purchasing a Sony phone? There are always a few haters on every opinion piece for every phone, but it seems as if the Xperia Mark 3's have more than usual. If you think that the Sony phones are no good that's fine. But it's just your opinion. I think Samsung Phones are no good. My opinion. Albeit my opinion is based on owning two recent ones that I had to send back! I've had 3 OnePlus phones and they all have been great for me. Currently using the 8T. Many say that OnePlus is no good...I think they're as good as any other OEM! So for all you Sony haters, why do you keep wasting your time trying to convince others that the phone they like is no good? It's not going to work. Does it give you some sort of sick satisfaction to express your opinions in a public forum? One other thing: Many of you need to learn how to spell and use the correct words that define properly what it is you are trying to say...especially if English is your first language. You know, because it makes you look as stupid as most of your opinions truly are! So, just go away and slam some other phone brand. If it was up to many of you there would only be two phone makers left in the world. That would be just great for innovation, and competition.

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                                    • Sonumaan
                                    • 56G
                                    • 07 Aug 2021

                                    Love this little champ 😍

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                                      • Rkm
                                      • DkQ
                                      • 07 Aug 2021

                                      Nick Tegrataker, 07 Aug 2021I borrowed the list of features from Sony's promotion ... moreThat's his thing. He blatantly ignores and doesn't acknowledge when he's proven wrong. Then concludes and infers a point that doesn't make sense or was not implied. He then derives utter bs from whatever everyone says and makes baseless arguments.
                                      I mean he said manual focus camera doesn't have plane of focus. Need we say more?

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                                        • Shui8
                                        • KZK
                                        • 07 Aug 2021

                                        Anonymous, 07 Aug 2021Bionz X on Alpha = hardware Bionz X on Xperia = software ... moreYou're not wrong. Its all software on Xperia.

                                        The big question is, do u agree with Tann on how BionzX works? Depth of field advancement 🤦

                                        You & me both know Sony for a long time. I know what Tann said is a twisted statement made by his own imagination just to proof his right (when its dead wrong)

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