200MP vs 1-inch - testing the best Android phones for photography

17 March 2023


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Twski, 03 Feb 2024"the HP2 has nearly 80% less surface area than the 1-i... moreYes and no.
First, you're making things overly complicated. Comparing camera sizes with a bunch of random tubes is an arbitrary, jurassic-era practice that has no place in the modern world of digital imagers.
Easier to just calculate the surface area of the sensor in good ol' sq-mm as it'd give you a near perfect measurement, regardless of the sensor's aspect ratio.
S23 Ultra's ISOCell HP2 has 200MP resolution with 0.6 micron pixel pitch, which equates to 72 sq-mm of sensor surface area.
Whereas the 50.3MP Sony IMX989 has a pixel pitch of 1.6 micron, so here we are looking at 128.76 sq-mm.
And that means the HP2 is around 44.08% smaller than the IMX989, which is a far cry from being 80% smaller. Don't know what the author of this article was thinking when he claimed "the HP2 has nearly 80% less surface area than the 1-inch type sensors in the other three phones."

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    • Twski
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    • 03 Feb 2024

    "the HP2 has nearly 80% less surface area than the 1-inch type sensors in the other three phones"

    It this really correct? By my maths:

    1/1.3" = 0.796" diagonal. At 4:3 aspect ratio, the sensor sides are:
    (4x)² + (3x)² = 0.796² => x² = 0.796²/25

    For 1inch => y² = 1²/25

    areas: Ax = x² and Ay = y². So Ax/Ay = 0.796²/1 = 0.6335 = 63.35% of the 1" sensor area, or just 36.65% smaller

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      • Anonymous
      • gXJ
      • 23 Dec 2023

      The S23 Ultra only goes to 0.6x zoom.

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        • Anonymous
        • KZK
        • 19 Nov 2023

        If Nokia D&S Division staying strong until today, guess which direction will the modern successor of 808 PureView will go? 200 MP or 1-inch sensor?

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          • Ravikumar
          • rA}
          • 15 Nov 2023

          There is no point, Comparing these devices, without Xperia 1 V.

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            • CarlossIlich
            • LaG
            • 15 Oct 2023

            Anonymous, 24 Sep 2023The Xiaomi 13 pro is not even Xiaomis best phone you should... moreIt wasn't out yet, mate. Check the dates.

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              • Anonymous
              • m@B
              • 24 Sep 2023

              The Xiaomi 13 pro is not even Xiaomis best phone you should have switched the 13 pro with the 13 ultra

                Cyberchum, 23 Aug 2023It'd not take a genius to know what makeshift means: a... moreWhat brand of crack are you on to legitimately believe a display with a hole in it isn't broken.

                  joe nodden, 19 Jul 2023Fall? If you placed it in a stupid way where it's gonn... moreIt'd not take a genius to know what makeshift means: an improvisation, something that doesn't offer perfect fit; ergo, could fall. Granted, you're not a genius, but you're even nowhere close to being one, else you'd have known that regular case would NOT prevent a display from breaking on significant impact with a rock.

                  The rest of your comment does nothing but put your miserable logic on full display. Like how is a display designed to have a "punch hole" a broken display? Do you actually think before letting your thumbs talk? Or are you all about "talk first"? Meh!

                  Next, you tell us how a person who doesn't mind settling for better when best isn't available should settle for good when he has access to better. What brand of crack are you on? Anything to sound smart, I guess. Abject!

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                    • Anonymous
                    • nDR
                    • 07 Aug 2023

                    Please mare comparation ar the same iso
                    Example: all phones ar iso 100 then at iso 400. 800 1600 and 6400. Then we will se the real difference between them

                      Cyberchum, 14 Jul 2023So you know quite well that the display would) actually bre... moreFall? If you placed it in a stupid way where it's gonna go for a bit of a dive and you have no case.

                      And I've got nothing against selfie cameras, I've got everything against putting a hole in the god damn display to have them there. You want to talk about how the "display would actually break"? Well congratulations you display already has a hole in it. Broken straight outta the factory.

                      Under display cameras get the job done more than adequately. 🤦‍♂️ You people don't care enough about selfie quality to use the rear cameras so why the hell do you suddenly care about the slight quality downgrade from switching away from a hole in the display? Have some sense. Christ on a bike. Talk about weak logic.

                        joe nodden, 11 Jun 20231) I mentioned the mohs scale of hardness. You brought up s... moreSo you know quite well that the display would) actually break if it happens to fall on the makeshift stand (props) you suggested, right? But you keep arguing against someone that practically simply said that front shooters are important enough to deserve good attention?

                        Whether you like to accept it or not, front shooters offer a certain convenience that eludes rear ones. Now, if you don't like the selfie camera or doesn't see enough use for them, go hang out with your tribe—most people do find them useful enough to want them to possess quality. I rarely care about taking photos, but I won't use that as an excuse to be putting out some weak logic like you do.

                          x3merrr, 07 Jun 2023The data is the scale YOU mentioned, so what more do you ne... more1) I mentioned the mohs scale of hardness. You brought up stones and sand being above glass and backed it up with absolutely no data. You offered no sources for the most common mineral makeup for common stones, nor the most common type of sand encountered in whatever scenarios you had in mind. No data whatsoever.

                          2) You're clueless. Phone glass isn't at 5. It's almost always between 6 and 7. Should consider watching a jerryrigeverything video.

                          3) And what do you mean "break"? It doesn't take a material higher on the mohs scale of hardness to break a display. Whether or not it's higher you aren't breaking the display unless it experiences a shock or pressure.

                            joe nodden, 07 Jun 2023You gonna just call me clueless or are you gonna back it up... moreThe data is the scale YOU mentioned, so what more do you need? Screens are around 5, so pretty much every common stone and sand are above and scratch&break it easily. They are only resistant to very soft ones (chalk like etc) and of course metal and wood. So yeah, you're quite clueless for not knowing the very data you're trying to present as your own argument.

                              x3merrr, 06 Jun 2023exactly. If you think gorilla glass is above most stones an... moreYou gonna just call me clueless or are you gonna back it up with data?

                                joe nodden, 04 Jun 2023mohs scale of hardness bud 🤦‍♂️exactly. If you think gorilla glass is above most stones and sand on the scale, you are quite clueless :)

                                  x3merrr, 31 May 2023diamonds? lol.. you do know that screens are made of glass ... moremohs scale of hardness bud 🤦‍♂️

                                    joe nodden, 31 May 2023Is everything near you laced with diamonds that'll scr... morediamonds? lol.. you do know that screens are made of glass and that every single rock and grain of sand scratches it easily. Metal and wood don't but everything above that is death... Did i say that back cameras are irrelevant and useless or did I say that front cameras are also important and shouldn't be so heavily neglected? Improve the reading skill, its a very helpful one.

                                      x3merrr, 30 May 2023yup, thats exactly what i'm implying. Where in urban e... moreIs everything near you laced with diamonds that'll scratch up your phone from simply putting it on that stuff?

                                      And look at your profile picture. Didn't take that with your selfie camera now did you. What value would a generic picture of you holding your phone to take a selfie have? None. Meanwhile in that picture your arms were free and able to show body language enough to make the photo meaningful.

                                      There's several reasons to not take selfies.

                                        joe nodden, 14 May 2023Are you implying you cannot use rocks or quite literally an... moreyup, thats exactly what i'm implying. Where in urban environment you can find something so convenient to fixate your phone at an exact height and angle you need? not to start about damaging your phone. But ok, you might be a rock miner and balancer or something. I prefer to extend my arm, shoot and move on.

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