vivo X200 Pro (Global) review
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- Vanilla
- 3RM
- 10 Jan 2025
Ottonis, 10 Jan 2025Being a camera aficionado myself I came to realize this ove... moreSome nice anecdotes and totally agree!
Another thing I should have mentioned is large sensor size = huge camera ring. The Vivo and upcoming Xiaomi are very chunky phones when you factor in the cam ring. It also increases weight, not least as it requires more optics.
Ergonomically, it just isn't nice and yet the scenario you describe is precisely why manufacturers are now going back to smaller sensor sizes. It's overkill for those who don't know how to work a camera (phone) properly; and not good enough for those who do. So a middle-ground is optimal.
Smaller sensor size means a more svelte and lighter device, which is good for ergonomics. A good example would be the Oppo Find X8 Pro, which is about at the limit for camera ring thickness vs ergonomics; then you have the VIVO X200 Pro which has better sensors, marginally better IQ at 100% zoom (who cares?), but a more bulky, obnoxious camera ring.
So the middle-ground with the latest tech is the logical outcome, and that is what we have across flagships for most devices. Apple and Samsung as market leaders know this, which is why they wouldn't use large sensors. It would mean a huge camera ring, and a bulky, heavy device.
Having the very pinnacle of mobile photography isn't the priority of most consumers.
If it is, they have a dedicated camera.
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- Ottonis
- JHh
- 10 Jan 2025
Vanilla, 10 Jan 2025Exactly. I find it both childish and brainless that so many... moreBeing a camera aficionado myself I came to realize this over time. Currently, I am using an old flagship cameraphone, which was released in 2018, which in terms of smartphone development is an eternity. And while it does have a main sensor of "only" 1/1.56" and a small-ish sensor behind the 3x lens it still makes terrific photos. I do take quite a lot of photos at parties and events with that device and share them with lots of other people over whatsapp and they all tell me "Wow, your phone makes such great photos".
The catch point here is, that many if not most of these people who rave over my photos, do own the latest and greatest iPhones and Samsung Galaxy Ultra phones, which are technically far superior to my phone.
There are two lessons behind this:
1. Knowing how to use even ab outdated camera with subpar hardware and processing capabilities can still lead to better photos than much newer and superior devices will take when not used optimally.
2. The hardware differences really do not have that much of an impact. We are talking here about a gap of 6-7 phone generations and yet people believe that my cameraphone is better than theirs.
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- Vanilla
- 3RM
- 10 Jan 2025
Ottonis, 09 Jan 2025Which review do you refer to? This review here undoubtedly ... moreExactly. I find it both childish and brainless that so many are obsessed with the very BEST specs. Unless such commenters are teenagers of course. Then I get it. Playground bragging rights.
Between all the flagships of those phone brands you mention, camera quality is much-of-a-muchness especially where 99% of consumers only upload their photos to social media - which automatically crops and downsamples; or keeps them permanently on a small screen device - where even the highest res screens can only physically display 2.5m pixels... There are 12m pixels in a 12mp image. Any imperfections are hidden by mere laws of physics meaning image quality would be indistinguishable on the same screen.
As for this move away from 1" sensors, which has also seen a lot of manchildren crying, it's a good thing. Such sensor size limits zoom capability, since there is only so much physical space inside a smartphone where larger sensor requires a bigger lens (laws of physics again). Building a brick simply won't sell.
Plus with stacked sensors and AI processing, such sensor size is no longer needed. You can get "as good" image quality with a smaller sensor.
And finally, to my other point, manufacturers know 99% of consumers only ever share photos to their social media or keep them on their small-screen device. So there's simply no need for 1" or larger sensors because no one even needs it. This also keeps device costs lower - another good thing.
If anyone is serious about photography, they should buy a dedicated full frame camera and forget their silly smartphone.
- David 040882
- spY
- 10 Jan 2025
HelioG42069, 09 Jan 2025Why is 90W charging considered average 💀Maybe because it's about as fast as Samsung's 45W in the first half an hour
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- akubewae
- XWh
- 10 Jan 2025
the new 6000mah battery does not look convincing..
an extra 600mah for only extra 1hour battery life
new tech battery vs old tech battery..really?
even old xiaomi 14 can last 15 hours with 4600mah
- David 040882
- spY
- 09 Jan 2025
Kloot, 09 Jan 2025238 comments and counting, and here's what I've l... moreThat's why we're here, mate. To help out 😂
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- Ottonis
- JHh
- 09 Jan 2025
Anonymous, 09 Jan 2025No, it can only summon a messenger pigeon.Best comment ever, seriously. I almost spilled my coffee laughing!
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- Ottonis
- JHh
- 09 Jan 2025
babar91k, 09 Jan 2025I dont know why gsm is so biased always praising shamesung ... moreWhich review do you refer to? This review here undoubtedly praises the camera-performance of the X200pro. So, where's the problem?
People need to understand that nowadays, all these cameraphone-flagships are all incredibly good at taking photos. The differences between Xiaomi, Samsung, Apple, Vivo, Huawi, Honor etc are minuscule and usually become apparent only when pixel-peeping at like 100-200%.
- Kloot
- Gfs
- 09 Jan 2025
238 comments and counting, and here's what I've learned
--this is the best phone ever made
--this phone is terrible
--lens flare renders the camera inoperative
--there is no lens flare problem
--all the statistics are made up and don't matter but also mean everything
Thanks guys, with your help I've decided to purchase the Barbie Flip from HMD, cheers
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- Burger
- 7Pt
- 09 Jan 2025
Good phone although it takes a lot of hyped specially in zoom , 10x is disappointed from a person using a S23U optical is gives you a real detail.
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- AnonD-814624
- X{u
- 09 Jan 2025
Sam, 09 Jan 2025Dude, when are you going to release Vivo X200 review?I was thinking the same. They have never released a review of a standard x series phone in their history as far as I can see. Wonder if this will be a first or if it joins the list of 'in for review' phones that don't actually get reviewed
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- Anonymous
- nGV
- 09 Jan 2025
Hate these phones with huge gaping camera holes. Yuck!
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- Luke
- AZd
- 09 Jan 2025
babar91k, 09 Jan 2025I dont know why gsm is so biased always praising shamesung ... morevery limited availability.. that is prob the main reason. People are interested and buy things they can easily get. Majority of the chinese phones are not easily available outside of Asia...there you go.
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- Vasilis
- a0X
- 09 Jan 2025
Officially in Europe, however, no dates have been announced by the company yet.
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- Luke
- AZd
- 09 Jan 2025
babar91k, 09 Jan 2025I dont know why gsm is so biased always praising shamesung ... morevery limited availability.. that is prob the main reason. People are interested and buy things they can easily get. Majority of the chinese phones are not easily available outside of Asia...there you go.
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- Anonymous
- mH3
- 09 Jan 2025
Pon, 09 Jan 2025Does it make calls ?No, it can only summon a messenger pigeon.
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- Lee
- mH3
- 09 Jan 2025
Anonymous, 09 Jan 2025Seriously haptics makes a flagship??? Obvioulsy each opini... moreThey absolutely make a flagship. sure a phone can have all the other constituent parts but when you feel a terrible haptic motor it just makes the phone feel cheap, like its not flagship and they're skimping on areas
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- Anonymous
- 8P7
- 09 Jan 2025
xPandamon, 09 Jan 2025Still wondering if it's the chip that isn't that ... moreIt's a 10% battery increase followed by a 15% usage time increase. If anything the chip is more efficient in certain scenarios
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- Anonymous
- pGw
- 09 Jan 2025
Anonymous, 09 Jan 2025What GSmarena never reviews: haptics. The haptics on this p... moreSeriously haptics makes a flagship???
Obvioulsy each opinión is valid... Very far to be mine in this case XD