Samsung Galaxy S21 5G
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- fuantaji
- gyt
- 05 Jan 2021
Surl, 05 Jan 2021I agree with you, the s10e is a pretty good phone, and upgr... moreThere is nothing wrong with screen on S21. Especially for those coming from S10e. It will be a little bigger and with 120Hz. 1080p is not an issue.
A9 2018 had this camera: 10 MP f/2.4, 52mm (telephoto), 1/3.9", 1.0µm, AF, 2x optical zoom.
And S21 has this: 64 MP, f/2.0, 28mm (telephoto), 1/1.76", 0.8µm.
It should be more than 2 times larger (in one dimension; 4 times larger in area).
If you cut this 1/3.9" part from S21 sensor then you'll get a little bit more than 2.0x "optical" zoom in that cropped part.
What I'm saying is that you should not jump on this "optical" part in zoom sensor descriptions. All those zoom options are generally just bad and faked via small sensor size.
I don't think there is room to put enough glass for the lenses to keep this current huge size sensor and achieve 2.0x optical zoom in S21. Unless you are Huawei and make fat phones (P40 Pro is +1.1mm). Even adding periscope cameras puts constraints on size again (S20U is +0.9mm) and requires phones to get fat and/or limit size of sensor.
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- AhmedSLL
- rmf
- 05 Jan 2021
Anonymous, 28 Dec 2020The FE only has SD865.
And you're literally on GSM a... moreHere are your facts, I've seen the phone and know people who have used it, the world includes other continents and countries not just north america.
https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s20_fe-10428.php
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- Surl
- q2t
- 05 Jan 2021
Alex, 05 Jan 2021Time to upgrade S10e, really? S10e is a nice phone that can... moreI agree with you, the s10e is a pretty good phone, and upgrading to the S21 is just a waste of money, no Simcard, near the same specs, probably $999, 1080x2400 pixels, and 1.1x optical zoom, the A9 (2018) had 2x optical zoom, and it was a midrange. The only good thing I see on this phone is a Snapdragon 888, UFS 3.1, maybe a better camera, and Bluetooth 5.1. Waiting for the S22 is a better option.
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- AnonD-973296
- GYi
- 05 Jan 2021
this is literally the perfect phone for me
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- Anonymous
- 5Sj
- 05 Jan 2021
I will be happy if there is a way to disable BDS which is come from China
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- Alex
- qC@
- 05 Jan 2021
Tommyt, 04 Jan 2021Im using s10e after almost 2 years its time to upgrade shou... moreTime to upgrade S10e, really? S10e is a nice phone that can be competitive for another two years. You have enough time to wait for S22. Or get S20 if impatient. Skip this one, it looks like a total disappointment, at least on paper.
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- Alex
- qC@
- 04 Jan 2021
So the lack of SD slot has been confirmed... What the real f..., Samsung!?
I wouldn't want Samsung to go out of business just to keep the competition. But I'll be glad to see how this technological and financial failure leaves Samsung S marketing team without salary/job this year.
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- Tommyt
- L1b
- 04 Jan 2021
Im using s10e after almost 2 years its time to upgrade should i upgrade to s21 ? Leave apert the size of the phone.
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- jun
- t7x
- 04 Jan 2021
remove exynos totally pls.
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- AnonD-973296
- GYi
- 04 Jan 2021
ALPHABOY17, 02 Jan 2021"Means better battery life" Yeah sure, compare ... morefor 120hz game support, wont the devs have to optimize it for that
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- ALPHABOY17
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- 02 Jan 2021
D1SONE, 29 Dec 2020Who cares. The S20 had unnecessarily high pixel density. So... more"Means better battery life"
Yeah sure, compare the s6 with that tiny battery at 1440p with an s20 (even ultra variant) at 1080p.
1080p 60hz definitelly saves battery life, BUT at 120hz... is worse than 1440p. And there IS a difference, I thought the same until I got the s8, the difference is night and day when you read texts. If you play games and watch movies go ahead and use those "120hz". But don't come here saying it is overkill, it wasn't at 5inch, now at almost 7 inch still overkill? Are you that sure? Why all people now need those "120hz"!? The screen makes even more heat now, the cpu AND gpu are pushed to keep a steady 120 frames per second. Why? I was playing all games (and quality ones, not those p2w AAA travesties) at a SOLID 15fps. Now all of a sudden 120hz is the hot trend, is the biggest need in the history!
Grow up people, once this trend ends, there will be another one, and then your beloved "120hz" will be thrown in the bin!
Did I mentioned that all apps and games MUST support 120hz mode?
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- Pakincan
- wrn
- 02 Jan 2021
The only thing worrying me is that 1080p/120hz screen from s21 is the same screen from s20fe, and have the same ghost touch issue. 🙄
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- luuka
- xtR
- 02 Jan 2021
fuantaji, 01 Jan 2021Depending on the price, quality of plastic back and Exynos ... morei agree this has the potential to be a very good phone, but the price is the key here because even tho 90% of people can't tell the difference between 1080 and 1440, and even tho plastic has many benefits over glass, if this is a $900 to $1000 phone then those are luxuries you expect to get when you pay that price. if they price it around 700 bucks this would be a killer phone, basically making it a s20 FE but with a better chip.
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- fuantaji
- gyt
- 01 Jan 2021
Depending on the price, quality of plastic back and Exynos performance this may be a very solid device.
(all further based on S20)
"Zoom" sensor covers for lack of "optical" zoom with it's huge size and resolution. If you crop it down to the size used by other flagships you'll get around 16MP with 2.0x zoom level (Yes, many other zoom cameras achieve around 50-80% of their zoom capabilities by just throwing a tiny sensor into the phone, so essentially S20/S21 just gives you that "zoomed" image and quite a lot of outside of it).
The biggest problem with zoom is 12MP computed output you get at any zoom level. This undermines usability of 64MP quite a lot.
There is a 64MP shooting mode, but it just gives 64MP computed image in the 1-6x zoom range. Samsung seems to be hell-bent on not giving users true crop from that sensor. But I think in 64MP mode at 1.0x zoom you'll get the image as it is pixel-to-pixel and then will have to manually crop it down to "zoom" into the frame. Hardly a user-friendly approach, but it should work. Gonna check this out in the store before purchasing when S21 will come out.
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- Anonymous
- q2t
- 31 Dec 2020
Alex, 30 Dec 2020Easy, man, it's not nice telling people that they dese... moreWow, I totally forgot about that, I feel bad now :(
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- AnonD-973296
- GYi
- 31 Dec 2020
Anonymous, 30 Dec 2020Dude are you serios ? You are like the gamers that still pl... more1080p 120hz and 1440p 120hz, mate u would not even see the difference unless u stick your eye in the pixels. i like the fact this has a plastic back so it does not shatter into 100 pieces and stab someone's finger if they picked it up. i am sure this will be a 700ish phone
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- Anonymous
- 0Uh
- 30 Dec 2020
D1SONE, 29 Dec 2020Who cares. The S20 had unnecessarily high pixel density. So... moreDude are you serios ? You are like the gamers that still play on 1080p and said that no one need more .
If you had 1440p from s6 since now , cutting to 1080 on a flagship device is a extemly bad choice . I understand 1080 on a mid range , but not a flagship . If s21 will have lower specs thans s20 it is a big problem .S20 has 1440 60hz . 1080 120 hz . S21 should have 1440p 120hz.
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- Anonymous
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- 30 Dec 2020
Alex, 30 Dec 2020It is an "E" version: plastic back, low res scree... moreThe size . You can t cut the display with a smaller one 5.5 - 5.8
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- Alex
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- 30 Dec 2020
NixxxoN, 30 Dec 2020Dont start with this nonsense. I can ask the same to you...... moreNonsense is to claim build quality for something that hasn't been built yet. Nonsense is to say that it's nonsense to suspect that those posts are paid. Same goes for my posts. But I'll tell you that:
I'm a sucker for big brands, I'm not going with any Chinese brand in the foreseen future. I'll choose a phone from any renown brand that will provide best quality and value.
This is my choice. But I accept yours, your passion for this phone because
- You consider plastic to be premium material;
- You don't need 1440p resolution;
- You don't need telephoto.
Deal.
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- Alex
- qC@
- 30 Dec 2020
Anonymous, 30 Dec 2020I hope Samsung makes an S21E, that would be awesome.It is an "E" version: plastic back, low res screen, no real telephoto. What else would you cut on?