Sharp 802

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• skater42
• 2Bt
• 06 Oct 2005

Hi Kouji,

well, I'd like to see myself as a "little helper" ;) god is a bit too much for me...

I'll post other things you can do with your phone soon, one that is overlooked and definatelly under-marketed:

Offline-Mode
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The W800 (SE) is boasting this option, that it can play MP3 without having to have the phone on etc. This is useful when travelling on airplanes.

Well, on the W800 you can only use the MP3 player, as where on the 802SH you can use all options including games, camera, mp3 etc.

So I think that is definatelly worth mentioning.

cheers,

skater42

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• k
• kouji
• YfY
• 05 Oct 2005

Skater42, you are my god lol. solved like all my problems.. i just put ff7 AC on my phone and it rocks !!! i just gotta start working on my mp3 player.. any other cool options on this phone that i should take advantage? and i thank you again for all the help you've given to me and everyone here.

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• s
• skater42
• 2Bt
• 05 Oct 2005

SMS
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Uhm...must be a software bug, can't see how it could display it.
Doesn't work for me either, never realized that it did that until you said something :(

I just ordered a cable for mine and I'm gonna get my local guy to re-flash my phone soon. I'll tell you all about potential fixes etc.



FIRMWARE
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My latest Firmware is 1.40 EU/UK version.

1.01??? That would be a development one or something.... No wonder your phone doesn't work. Where did you get it from?

skater42

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• Anonymous
• N7E
• 05 Oct 2005

hey skater.....

i tried to flash the phone today but it seems like the guy doesnt have the new frimware.....

it always tells me the version is 1.01 and need higher version

so can i know whats ur sotware version ? and whats the last one???? UK version offcourse

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• J
• John
• P$@
• 05 Oct 2005

Hi,

I posted a question about SMS's on the phone and have not yet got an answer. Does anyone know how to view the time received\sent of SMS's on the phone as it sometimes is annoying not knowing what time you received the SMS.

Thanks.

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• s
• skater42
• U2Q
• 04 Oct 2005

SD-Video Converter
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Hi Kouji, there is a program called 3GP-Converter 0.31. I use it and its pretty decent. Converts a whole lot of other formats too.

Together with BoilSoft ASF converter you can increase the quality by first converting ie. WMV-MPG, then MPG to ASF with 3GP-Converter.

Unfortunatelly I haven't had too much luck directly converting them into ASF via the Boilsoft program.

Look on google on how to obtain either or both programs.

I have complete Movies on my phone, and they rock, such good quality ;)

Skater42

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• k
• kouji
• YfY
• 04 Oct 2005

Anyone know of any good programs that can turn .avi to .asf files? i would like to watch music videos on my phone :-) thanks again all

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• s
• skater42
• 2Bt
• 04 Oct 2005

What I meant before...
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Bugs like these are not necessarily a Firmware fault...they can be caused by faulty flashing.

These phones are not meant to be unlocked (There is no v802 for Europe) and hence have no Vodafone approved unlocking.
The unlocking methods are third party softwares that read and re-write the firmware to a phone.

It is very complicated, but try to get it reflashed and hope that everything works properly. I know of a lot of people who can use all functions including WAP/MMS.

cheers,

Skater42

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• s
• skater42
• 2Bt
• 04 Oct 2005

You have two options:

- Get it re-flashed

- or ditch it and get a new fone

Mine works fine besides a few bugs.
I have none of these problems, but the bugs are normal and can be fixed by reflashing the phone. Try the UK/EU version and give it a go,

or just don't bother with it.

This is what you get when you order "hacked" phones, get it reflashed!


skater42

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• Anonymous
• N7E
• 04 Oct 2005

i have the 32 SD card .....

and i have a bad news..... the jp version is really really full of bugs as far as my experience tells me....

no mp3 \ cant use it to use gps\mms or even sms in ur country ...... phonebook is totally a mess and most of all there is no t9 for english ( only jp and english languages available ) the camera photos is the worst among the mega pixel phones i used..... the GX30 is way better in photo quality .....

trust me mr. skater i can go on and on with its problems w2ith the jp unlocked version

and now the phone just keeps restarting not going through the insializing startup !!!!!!! it wont even start ...... all i did is typing a msg and trying to send it .... and it didnt go anywhere but the unsent folder .... even when i tried to delete it .. it wont be deleted...... 10 minutes later for my surprise i found it restarting by it self and keep restarting :S:S:S:S:S

i hate it ..... i really HATE IT

my only hope is with the shop i am going to tomorrow to flash it with the UK firmware

AN ADVICE ..... no one buy this phone with the JP VERSION...... IT WILL KILL U INSIDE

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• s
• skater42
• 2Bt
• 04 Oct 2005

UK is EU
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There are only two versions for this phone as far as I am aware.

This phone was never meant to be released outside of Japan, hence the JP version is not as buggy as the EU version.

No, there is no "Israeli" version or arabic version available.

Try using a SD Card, I'm not positive that MMC is supported.

Skater42

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• J
• Jezie
• PZu
• 04 Oct 2005

I really tried everything you said about on how to save and play the MP3s....but still it doesn't work....Im using a MMC card instead of a SD..please help me Im so confused!!! =(

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• Anonymous
• N7E
• 04 Oct 2005

I SAVE THE MP3 TO MY ITEM \...\ SOUND AND RIGTONES

and the phone keep telling me item cant be opened

when i tried like u told me to options > SD audio ..... the list is empty

anyway i found some one will flash it to the UK version.... is it the same as EU version ??

and did u hear about the israeli version ???

cuz it contains arabic in it

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• s
• skater42
• U2U
• 03 Oct 2005

MP3's not playing
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Hi, that is so strange. Download a trial of dbPowerAmp and convert your files with the (Lame) MP3 encoder.
That's the one I am using and it works perfectly.

OR

- Do you use a MMC or SD Card?
- How big is the Memory Card?
- Is the Memory Card formated correctly?
- Can you save or play any other media (video, pictures, etc.) on the same card?

What exactly happens when you try to play the music?
You open the Media Player:

Options > Open Music > SD Memory Card

DO NOT SKIP THE REFRESHING!!!!!!!!

Refreshing the playlist will update all songs, if you have skipped it regularly the playlist won't be able to find the new/old songs. Is this the reason?

Tell me in as much details as possible what is happening, what error messages come up and if necessary, send me one mp3 that you cannot play and I will check on mine!

Send it to i_love_camping@hotmail.com!

I will keep responding via here so everyone can see what is happening!


Skater42

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• Anonymous
• N7E
• 03 Oct 2005

thanx skater but again my mp3s are

- be no bigger than 192kbps, 48khz.
- MP3
- in the "Sounds & Ringtones" Folder

and still dont worrrrrrrk :(

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• J
• John
• P$@
• 03 Oct 2005

Hi,

Just wondering if it is possible to view the time received on SMS's in the inbox. I am unable to see the time received/sent of messages. If someone can help with this that would be great.

Thanks.

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• s
• skater42
• U2U
• 03 Oct 2005

@ Unknown

MP3 PLAYER
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Your last message is confusing me a bit. I know that the firmwares can be a bit buggy at times, but this doesn't mean that a major function would not work.

To access an MP3:
- it must be no bigger than 192kbps, 48khz.
- must be MP3 or MP3PRO, NOT MP2, MP4, AAC or AAC+
- MUST BE in the "Sounds & Ringtones" Folder

If it is not in this folder under My Items, the phone will not recognize the files.

BOTH versions are able to use the media player and play MP3's.


Chaku-Uta & MP3 Ringtones
==========================

There is something you need to understand first before you compare the EU & JP version. Vodafone KK in Japan is offering the music service together with SONY offering "Chaku-Uta", which allows the download of full-length MP3 music and videos.
Alone for this reason it's a contradiction to say that the JP Version would not be able to play MP3 or MP3 Ringtones, that is the main selling point. Videos & Music can be set as a ringtone!

Both, the EU & JP versions support MP3 Ringtones, but only if they are downloaded from Vodafone BB (Vodafone Live!), or another portal offering DRM content.


PHONEBOOK
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I never said you could copy contacts from an SD-Card, only your USIM or SIM. The best you can do is to transfer the entries from your OLD phone into MS OUTLOOK, or as an .CSV. If you had a previous SHARP phone, simply import that file into the Phone Manager and upload your contacts.
Everything else should be fine from then on.


MENU & TEXT-INPUT
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No, the Japanese and European Firmware are IDENTICAL in looks. Nothing will change.

About the English T9, I have not tried this on a Japanese version. But it should be the same, simply hold the "*" key for 2 seconds and it should activate it automatically. Or activate it through the "options" menu.
In the European Version there is T9 for all languages, should be the same on the Japanese, but again I can't confirm this 100%.

cheers,

Skater42

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• ?
• Anonymous
• N7E
• 02 Oct 2005

thanx skater....... :)

but i still think there is a difference between the japanese version and the EU version

1- its about the text input everywhere... for example .. there is no T9 for English... only jap.

2- in the phone book u have to enter all ur contacts again manually and not copy them from the memory card .... to enable searching :-S

i think again thats becuz the phone is jp version

3- there is no sort by first- last or last first name in the option

4- the most important ONE is obviously u can play MP3 on the EU version and noooooo way on the jp version ......

i tried everything to play mp3 and no way :s and i was very carefull about the kps and khz ... and no.... not working

thats why i am asking if i changed the software and upgraded it to EU ( cuz obviously it will correct alllll my problems ) will i lose the look of the menu ( and will it tur into a GX30 menu ???? the barcod reader ( its sooo usefull till now with buss. cards and showing off :D ) and ofcourse the video tones ...icons and emotions in names and msgs ... etc

for the DC-videos ...... u can play them from mediaplayer on the phone....just press options then chooseopen video then SD VIDEO ..... and if u have a card reader ( witch i think the best thing to transfer media files ) u can find them in the directory SD VIDEOS directly not in the my items

so till u answer me about the eu\jp software.... i am stuck with a phone with no mp3 function

thanx :)

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• s
• skater42
• U2U
• 02 Oct 2005

SD-VIDEO CLARIFICATION
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Sorry, to be clear again. You can only access the SD-Videos from your SD-Card. But if you look "My Items > Videos > SD Card" they won't be there.
You can only access them by going into the Multimedia Player > Open Video > SD-Video.
Maybe this is a bug, I don't know. I wouldn't know why the made it like that.

cheers,

Skater42

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• s
• skater42
• U2U
• 02 Oct 2005

JAPANESE vs. EUROPEAN FIRMWARE
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I repeat it again: there is no difference between the Japanese and European Firmware. It is merely ordered in a different way.

Chaku-Uta (mp3 ringtones) can be played on both versions, with the exception that they must be DRM (Digital Rights Managed) and downloaded from a server. The phone will not allow ".dm" files to be transferred via bluetooth, cable or IrDA.
Read my previous posts in regards to alternative MMF formats!


Text Scanner & QR Codes
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The text scanner is a handy gimmick but doesn't always work properly. Make sure that you use the "macro-mode" to get the clearest image, and the bar must be DARK BLUE to get the most accurate results.
ALSO, the font that you scan will impact on the results. Very graphical fonts will not work. This is a computer people, it cannot think.

QR-Codes are a standard used in Japan. We have no current use for it, at least not for another few years. Create your own, print them out and try it. It's a very cool new way of storing information!!!



OPTICAL ZOOM
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No, the information on this site is false. The phone has NO optical zoom and autofocus. It is a regular 1.3 MPx module. No other web site has ever claimed this, only GSMARENA.


SD-VIDEO & PHONEBOOK
=====================

SD Videos are only stored on the SD-Card so you can record unlimited video. You will not be able to view them unless you open the Multimedia Player. I don't know why they made it like that, it might be a bug that you can't view them straight of the SD-Card.

The Phonebook is working fine for me. Just make sure that you have all contacts shown, and copy all from SIM.
Under Advanced in your Phonebook:

- Order by name first-last, last-first
- Contacts location: Handset or SIM
- View Contacts (IMPORTANT) ALPHABET OR GROUP

@unkown: Make sure you list is order alphabetically and that all contacts are downloaded from the SIM. It should work then.


REPROVISIONING SETTINGS
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These settings are important when you switch from one VF Network to another. It will try to download the information so it can connect to Vodafone Live! Contact your service centre or go online to get the settings for your UMTS & GPRS. I never ran into this issue, so I can't give you a 100% promise that this will fix it.


MP3's & dbPowerAmp
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For anyone who's having trouble playing MP3s:
- Download dbPowerAmp and simply run your existing mp3s, wav or wma/aiff files through there.
- Make sure that your settings are set to 192kbps and 48KHz for maximum quality. DO NOT GO HIGHER, the phone won't play them. Read my previous posts for more info.

Hope this helps!!!

Skater42

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