Sharp 802

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skater42
2CC
13 Oct 2005

PICTURES...HERE THEY ARE
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Here are some pictures for you all (straight off the camera):
Let me introduce myself formally, I'm Chris and yes, I dare to take pictures of myself.
Also have pics of other items, ENJOY ;)

This is me starring at the camera for no real reason. Pictur was taken with a flash.

http://www.christianlegere.com.au/V802SH/puppy_eyes.jpg

Here you can see a Palm tree...yes, I know...it's a tree.

http://www.christianlegere.com.au/V802SH/palmtree.jpg

This is my states flag back in Germany...ain't it beautiful.

http://www.christianlegere.com.au/V802SH/bavarian_flag.jpg

A candle with flash and macro.

http://www.christianlegere.com.au/V802SH/macro_flash.jpg

Flowers in macro_mode. See the colour saturation, it's very close to the original.

http://www.christianlegere.com.au/V802SH/flower.jpg

This is my flatmates ADORABLE cat...

http://www.christianlegere.com.au/V802SH/monte_cat.jpg

Another good macro:

http://www.christianlegere.com.au/V802SH/yellow_flower.jpg

And these are some friends of mine at McD*****s. (No advertising intended)

http://www.christianlegere.com.au/V802SH/maccas.jpg

Night time while being driven around, this shot was through the wind screen.

http://www.christianlegere.com.au/V802SH/night_time.jpg

A FEW WORDS
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A few words to these pictures. Please don't rate me, this is not Hot Or Not...LOL I'm joking.
Picture quality will greatly depend on lighting. It is ALL that matters. If you have enough natural day light around you pictures will always turn out good. If it is too bright, go to the lowest exposure. Pictures will be a bit dark, but not as noisey. You can always fix it in photoshop.

If you want sharp images in lower lighting use the flash. Macro mode is good, but only has a limited range. It's difficult to focus properly in Macromode. But a pretty good pic is the yellow_flower.jpg.

I wouldn't be too dissapointed with this camera, for it's time it was the BEST.

Skater42

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skater42
2CC
13 Oct 2005

Messaging & T9
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Messaging works a little different on the 802SH. MMS and SMS are one function instead of two. It rather works like writing an e-mail: Depending on the content image or no image, the phone will decide what to send. A SMS or MMS.

This will have no effect on the outcome, it's either an SMS or MMS, but can be confusing at first when you don't know what you are doing. It makes sense after a while.

The writing input is not officially "T9", though it is labeled as such within the phone and works like the real thing too. Different to the GX30 the 802SH lets you access the Dictionary separately and store new words permanently.

The back button is now in a different spot which will take a bit of time to get used to, give it a few messages to type yourself in and make sure you make good use of the manua (will save you time and a big headache).

The good about all this is that the messaging centre no longer works separately (SMS, MMS & e-mail) but now puts everything into one mailbox. It reminds me of the layout of "Outlook Express", similar structure. I guess this could be bad for some, but to me it makes decent sense and I can find everything in one place instead of three.

Skins & Colors
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There are officially and inofficially 5 colors available. Full Stop.

Red, Blue, Champagne, Gray/Silver & Brown.

Covers cannot be changed, if you have a look at how the phone is built you will thank them for it. There is just no way that you could change the complete coloring. To many parts to it...

The 802SH is like a piece of unglazed chocolate that is dipped into the chocolate mix... the color is just all over it. In every single corner. Everywhere.

The keypad is awesome though, so bright and feels like paper, your fingers will never slip and you wont' ever see finger marks on it. Nice big buttons and at night time i could just look at it forever... I AM A FREAK!!!

Vodafone Life! & JAVA GAMES
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Downloading Java Games is easy yet a pain in the ar**. For one: If you have the honor of getting your phone ONTO the network (which is not possible in Australia) then you can browse the internet...

Now being on the internet is fine, being on Vodafone live! is a completely different story. If your phone doesn't match their white list (GX20N or GX22 instead of GX20), you won't be able to download anything other than wallpapers, if your lucky.

So IF you CAN access the internet via GPRS or WCDMA, go find a random site that offers Java games and pay $1-2 for downloading instead of $7 + $2 on Vodafone Live!

Other than that there is no way to obtain JAVA GAMES. Don't argue with me, just believe me: I've been trying for 2 years.

Pictures off the Digital Camera
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OK, let me warn everyone. Keep in mind that these fabulous piece of ingenious Japanese technology is almost 1 year old (happy birthday!). This means:

- Modern 1.3 Mpx Cameras will be better
- Modern 2 & 3.2 Mpx Cameras will kick arse

The 802SH has significant improvements over the GX30. It added 0.3 Mpx to the image.
Other than that the 802SH is not overly saturating images like the GX30 did, in simle terms: It has better white balance.

BUT...

Noise levels are outrageous in low lighting which is intensified if you view the picture on an LCD flat screen...

A dirty and smudgy lense will produce HORRIBLE noisy pictures...so keep that lense clean (trust me, have a tissue with you ALWAYS)

I still don't understand why they don't put a cover on the lense...damn that would be useful.

Other than that the camera picks up good colors and I'm very happy with it. I am wanting to get my greasy hands on a 903SH though... *drool*

skater42

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casey
PBP
13 Oct 2005

can the casing of the sharp 802 be replaced? are cases readily available? coz the only color available here is the bright blue and the pink one. i want somthing like a white color.

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filipino 802 user
PBP
13 Oct 2005

great phone!

however, can i download games online? if yes, how? thanks.

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marquis
TSM
13 Oct 2005

omg skater if i were not straight i wld so kiss u! :P

thanks dude. really appreciate the info :D

at least the number one concern for this phone (to me at least) has been laid to rest :D its pretty cool that for such a feature heavy phone, its so durable :D

can't wait for the pics now! i wanna compare it to that of the 6630..i've noticed the pics from the 6630 tend to be...too...bright? i don't really know the term for it..but it's not warm enough for me :P i'll be waiting for ur update with heart full of anxiousness :P

hm...just one more thing though. the msging system. can anyone help me on this matter? coz i'm quite a heavy text user. i rely heavily on the dictionary. i just need to know if the msging system and the t9 dictionary is similar to that of the nokia. it wld be extremely good if the system is is exactly like that of the nokia :D

thanks in advance :)

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skater42
2Bt
13 Oct 2005

Quality & Durability of the 802SH
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Ok, now one would think that this phone is delicate because of the camera and the awesome screen...and the tightly packaged electronics.

I went skating (hence my name) and had the phone in my pouch of my jumper when it suddenly fell out "in-flight". It crashed down on the concrete cover-up first.

A lot of scratches....but no damages whatsoever. Screen is good, camera works, macro-mode works... Nothing happened. Luckily these things don't have an external screen.
I dropped it a few more times and am confident that even for the next times nothing will happen.

Keep in mind: My phone is Ice-Blue and you can't see the scratches because they are white. BONUS!

5/5 *top notch*

Ringtones of the SD Card
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You must copy or move the Ringtone to your handset memory. This is to guarantee that you cannot use ultra-long ringtones or DRM files. As you know, you can copy DRM to your SD, but not to the Phone Memory.
The Phone Memory also has a 300KB limit for MMF files.

Not a big deal really. I'm happy for now.

JAVA GAMES
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Not possible to transfer Java Games via bluetooth or SD-Card. This functions is locked by the Handset Manager and you MUST download them via Vodafone Live!
There used to be a hacked handset Manager for the GX10i that allowed you to upload any file, but I don't think that had gone any further than the GX10i itself.

Always have a look out though.

Pictures from the 802SH
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Ok, I will post some on my server and give you the URL here. I'll do a variety of pictures. I have planned to do a review, but haven't got the time yet.

Personally I have seen images of a 6630 and must say they are very good for a CMOS.

The 802SH is by no means perfect. It has incredible noise levels when there isn't enough lighting and can't adjust automatically to bright sunlight.
The worst part is to adjust exposure: They took away all shortcuts!!! I have to go into options every single time...so annoying!!!

The 1290 x 960 images can be very good on the 802SH, they actually even look better than 1024 x 786.
But once the lighting becomes dim you need to turn on that LED to make things look decent.

skater42

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kouji
jEw
13 Oct 2005

anyone know how to put games onto your phone using the SDcard or Bluetooth? I was trying to add some games into my phones.. any tips or suggestions would be great..

kouji

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kouji
jEw
13 Oct 2005

try this,
put the MMC card into your phone, go to settings,memory settings,format card and then enter 9999(that should be the default code) after formating the card put it back into your mmc reader and there should be folders in the mcc card. then go to your media player and access your memory card. then go ahead and exit and go to your main menu. (this should've created the folders)
you need to put it into
My Items > Sounds & Ringtones

then sadly to say i've not figured out how to make ring tones ring off of your SD/MMC card.. but you have to move the file into
your handset memory in order for it to work

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Woa
Ui$
12 Oct 2005

Hi skater and pals. i have tried the method for mmf. successfully converted my files into mmf. but put inside my mmc card and slot into phone. the phone cant detect them. do i need to copy the mmf files into some specific folder in the mmc card?

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marquis
RIE
12 Oct 2005

hey..i have been trying to look for the photos taken by this phone.to no avail.do u think anyone cld help me here? i wanan compare the pictures taken with this phone to that of the nokia 6630

another thing..how does the sms function work for this phone? i mean, is it similar to that of the nokia? or better still, is it the exact same t9 like that of the nokia's?

how bout hardiness? can this phone withstand abusing? like drops or something?

thanks guys. i really need help regarding this matter since i dont know where else i can ask these questions..

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kouji
jEw
11 Oct 2005

to save skater sometime, look at this.. *copies from pages 3

MMF 5 by YAMAHA
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The latest version of the converter, MA5, is the "loudest" and supports Mono 24khz, stereo 12khz wave file support.

Earlier versions like MA2 and MA3 support up to 12khz and 40 poly tones, MA5 & MA7 support from 64poly to 128poly, 24-48(?)khz ringtones.

The converter (MA5) can be downloaded for free off the Yamaha web site, simply look for it on google.com.

Let me know how you go and if you need help with it.
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You have to find a mp3 -> wav then you can download the MA5 and change the .wav to .mmf and throw it into your my sounds and ringtones folder. Skater explained this to me thoroughly, go ahead and look on page3 all the information is there.

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shoji
TS$
10 Oct 2005

May i know that there is any software can convert mp3 to this sharp 802sh so that i dun need to use the polytonic ringtone?

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skater42
2Bt
10 Oct 2005

If your network in the Philipines supports the 900/1800 MHz frequencies: Yes, it will work.

Just make sure your Phone is unlocked and has the EU Firmware version.

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skater42
U2Q
09 Oct 2005

3GP Converter
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3GP Converter is a great tool for creating SD_Videos BUT BE AWARE:

- Video input format (MPG, WMV, AVI, etc.) will have an effect on the output quality;

- YES, you will have to rename it to MOLxxx in order to play it.

Remember that all SD video files you take off your phone will not automatically play on someone elses computer if they don't have the SHARP Audio codec and MPG4 support:

- Use the Windows Movie Maker to create a WMV file that encodes everything to WMV7 or newer.

V802SH Network compatibility
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802SH

GSM: 900/1800/1900 Mhz
UMTS: W-CDMA 2100Mhz

This means:

The 802SH is compatible with all GSM frequencies except the 850Mhz. This puts a limit on many American provides like AT&T that do use the 850Mhz as well as the 1900Mhz frequency. European networks all operate on 900/1800 Mhz. The phone will perform better with two frequencies available.

iDen & CDMA, CDMA2000, EV-DO/1x RTT & TDMA
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This phone is not compatible with the iDen (Sprint Nextel) network, though they accept similar cards to SIM cards iDen models are backwards compatible with GSM networks (if supported).

CDMA/CDMA2000 networks cannot be picked up by the 802SH, the only 3G standard it can log on to is W-CDMA.
This excludes the use for this mobile in countries/states like the US, Canada and Korea, where in certain areas only GSM 850, CDMA & CDMA2000 and TDMA networks are deployed.
Make sure you research carefully whether your phone is compatible with your local provider.

Using this mobile in Japan
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Japan does NOT provide GSM AT ALL, so before you travel to Japan YOU MUST get a valid Vodafone USIM card that is roaming enabled.
Only FOMA/Docomo & Vodafone provide versions of W-CDMA, FOMA having an older system that may not be fully compatible with the 802SH.
Vodafone KK is fine of course.

ATTENTION: You CANNOT purchase pre-paid USIM cards in Japan, you will have to sign up for a contract. Visitors usually do not get granted a contract without being a resident of some sort.

hope this helps,

skater42

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kouji
jEw
09 Oct 2005

Yea i learned that the hard way, after i convereted my videos to .asf i thought i could rename it to whatever.asf.. finds out you have to name it mol###.asf or it won't show up in your sd_video under media player.

Kouji

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MUCULAR MAN
Cfh
08 Oct 2005

i have sharp 802sh and it work in u.s just in these companies: t.mobile, cingular,and at&t. they dosent work on verizon or spring or nextel.

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Anonymous
N7E
07 Oct 2005

thanx skater...... u r soooo helpfull really......

very few ppl now give advices and share their openion just for the sake of letting other ppl know what they know :)... so thanx again :)

and tell me ... what do u think about this video converter http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=3GP_Converter

i think we should rename the file coverted to mol***.asf and put it inside SD_video folder..... what do u think ?

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Skater42
2Bt
07 Oct 2005

V603SH, V501SH, V302SH, V402SH
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Sorry to disappoint you...these models are PDC ONLY, not GSM. This means that they do not use SIM-CARDS because they run on a different network than ours.

PDC is used by Vodafone and NTT DOCOMO in Japan and uses the 800Mhz/1500Mhz frequencies. Even if a Phone is dual PDC & WCDMA you cannot use it without being on a contract, because no SIM/USIM can be inserted.

BUT...the V302SH is the equivialent of the GX25 and so it is not impossible for Vodafone to re-make PDC into GSM models for the GSM market.

!!! DO NOT waste your money on buying gray-imports of the V602SH etc, it is NOT POSSIBLE to use PDC phones even if dual WCDMA is available. You cannot enter a SIM/USIM! Full Stop.

skater42

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Anonymous
N7E
07 Oct 2005

hey skater ...... i was wondering...

do u have any idea about the sharp 603 selling on the vodafone website

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kouji
YfY
06 Oct 2005

wow sweet... never knew that.. lol, oh ya! another thing is there any better way to fastfoward in media player? cause i was reading through the manual and faqs on vodafones site and i couldn't find anything.. thats the only thing now.. cause like sometimes i just wanna watch certain parts of a movie.. but i thinking theres no option to do that.. but.. taking video camera on this phone is amazing. and my battery life? its unquestionable.. i watched about 2 movies.. used a video camera for about 30 minutes.. and replayed the video camera and it lasted a whole day.. thats just incredible to me.. and talked on the phone too ;-)

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