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  • Anonymous
  • LQu
  • 05 Jun 2019

Haters seem so scare of possibility that it may be true.
Because if it is, none of upcoming phones will increase that much from previous version.

Mate 30 and Note 10 wont earn more than 2 or 3 compared to P30 Pro and s10 5G.
Iphones wont even reach 109.

Pixel will use wide + ToF or Wide + ultra wide ... No way it will pass 107

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    • Anonymous
    • LQu
    • 05 Jun 2019

    Anonymous, 05 Jun 2019The main camera is a Sony sensor, and captures more dayligh... moreHuawei uses 40MP imx650, not imx586 ...

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      • Anonymous
      • LQu
      • 05 Jun 2019

      Livid, 05 Jun 2019It's been proven several times here, that this is only 8 bi... moreIt is 10 bit ( but 8 + 2)
      HDR+ is just the version of Dolby Vision created by Samsung.

      Sony phones have BT2020 gamut. Much higher than DCI-P3 and can play 10bit videos.
      Any other device will compress to 8bit.

      4K HDR of Xperia is HLG, not HDR10/10+.

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        • Anonymous
        • LQu
        • 05 Jun 2019

        Tann Hauser, 05 Jun 2019DxO mark is unreliable. Im sure the HDR dynamic range photo... moreThey always do backlit portrait .... Person by the window against the sun.


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          • Anonymous
          • MZX
          • 05 Jun 2019

          Livid, 05 Jun 2019It's been proven several times here, that this is only 8 bi... moreThe main camera is a Sony sensor, and captures more daylight detail than even the highly acclaimed 48MP Exmor IMX586 on the P30 Pro.

          Almost all other smartphone makers including Samsung use Sony sensors in their lineup. There'e nothing wrong that or the other way around.

            Livid, 05 Jun 2019DXO mark is a commonly referred standard. Sony scores low, ... moreYeah, according to dxomark j2 pro camera is better than lumia 808 pureview...you kidding me..dxo is only referred to those who pay for it..thei results are hilarious..you want to tell me that iphonex and xs max rating diffrence is as much as 8 and galaxy 5g camera is better than s10 plus where there is no diffrence ever in both hardware or software...and since when sony uses samsung sensors are dreaming

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              • Livid
              • UNA
              • 05 Jun 2019

              Tann Hauser, 05 Jun 2019DxO mark is unreliable. Im sure the HDR dynamic range photo... moreDXO mark is a commonly referred standard. Sony scores low, because it's camera/video quality is lower than some competition. Accept the facts and just move on. Sony is now using 3 Samsung Isocells in the phone....Doesn't this tell you something. Sony failed with its own sensors, so has tried with Samsung sensors and also failed...haha, get it ?

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                • Livid
                • UNA
                • 05 Jun 2019

                Tann Hauser, 05 Jun 2019Popular yes, more creative definitely not. For ex, HDR vid... moreIt's been proven several times here, that this is only 8 bit, NOT 10 bit. Do you want the links listed again, including Sony's own page ? .... Also HDR is a lower standard than HDR+, that some other brands are using. Also 3 of the 4 camera are Samsung Isocell. Obviously, Sony is totally lost in the camera/video Dept.

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                  • Livid
                  • UNA
                  • 05 Jun 2019

                  [deleted post]Using fancy names has actually backfired on Sony. Just shows desperation and lies. The public are quite savvy these days about Smartphones and avoid Sony.

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                    • Zhao min
                    • BtF
                    • 05 Jun 2019

                    Tann Hauser, 05 Jun 2019Popular yes, more creative definitely not. For ex, HDR vid... moreHdr, dinamic range, 10 bits, blablah
                    Ohh so complicated names.
                    And with all of those names, xperia's camera is still worse than the competitors.

                      [deleted post]Popular yes, more creative definitely not.
                      For ex, HDR video is a perfect example for that. Creator mode is for professional video creativity interested users, tho 10 bit hdr video it uses is not as popular as 8bit hdr, but is definitely a step above in tech and quality

                        Anonymous, 04 Jun 2019https://sumahoinfo.com/post-32669 This person is reliabl... moreDxO mark is unreliable. Im sure the HDR dynamic range photo was not tested, as it is not auto. Then again, they finally get points for portrait and zoom. Dont care about portrait, but that 5x hybrid zoom is remarkable.
                        Tho for video it should get some extra high score from them, if their protocols are considered.
                        Never the less, if this true, at least Sony started properly marketing again.

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                          • Anonymous
                          • LHe
                          • 05 Jun 2019

                          Shui8, 04 Jun 2019Xperia 1 vs P30 Pro vs S10+ - https://youtu.be/ihN_av8Sk2w... moreChris is a true Sony fan but he is not the best camera guy. His banana shot on X1 is out of focus because it focus is on the wall, one tap on screen fixes that. In narrow venice streets he uses ultra wide camera on X1 instead of the main one like on the rest of the phones. Xperia 1 like any other Xperia phones does spot metering instead of taking in average brightness level thats's why non important area gets overexposed. That's just how it is and there are advantages as well as disadvantages to that, great for landscape bad for interior shots. For example on low lit environment where there is a spotlight Xperia 1 would show correctly a contrast between low lit area and hotspot from the spotlight while P30 or Pixel that have extreme contention of highlight would totally diminish the spotlight and kill any contrast on the scene. It looks like a evenly key lit scene which is not how it actually looks. Overall P30 Pro does better still photography than Xperia 1 that was to be expected but in outdoor daylight they are equally matched.

                          When it comes to video nothing beats Xperia 1 right now. It's the only phone that can shoot ultra wide video with distortion correction, to make it a bit funny it's using Samsung sensor for such thing. It's 4K video is the highest bitrate I've seen so far, the amount of detail and color reproduction cannot be matched by P30 Pro or S10. 4K stabilization is suffering because of it there not enough processing power to do hybrid EIS/OIS stabilization. But if you switch to FHD recording you will be treated with the best stabilization on mobile phone so far. Take P30 Pro at night time and jump and you will see light smudging all over the place while none of that will appear on Xperia 1

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                            • Anonymous
                            • LQv
                            • 04 Jun 2019

                            https://sumahoinfo.com/post-32669

                            This person is reliable. Last year he said Premium was going to be announced April in China. That happened.

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                              • Mossman
                              • LHe
                              • 04 Jun 2019

                              Shui8, 04 Jun 2019Xperia 1 vs P30 Pro vs S10+ - https://youtu.be/ihN_av8Sk2w... moreFirst example Xperia 1 shot using wide lens while all others use main cam. There are many other better comparisons out there by people who know a bit more bout photography. Btw P30 Pro stabilizes better on 4k cause it has lower bitrate hence less cpu intensive, difference in details compared to Xperia 1 is night and day in favor of Xperia 1.

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                                • Anonymous
                                • LQv
                                • 04 Jun 2019

                                Shui8, 04 Jun 2019Xperia 1 vs P30 Pro vs S10+ - https://youtu.be/ihN_av8Sk2w... moreHow can you be sure the scene was not overexposed?

                                Do you think even FF show blue sky like some phones do?
                                A site here used a A6400 for blind test , so people could see the right colour and exposure.
                                S10, P30 pro, Xs and pixel 3 all got scene very different from the APSC.

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • LQv
                                  • 04 Jun 2019

                                  Alexande, 04 Jun 2019Pubg players need high refresh rate of 120 hz n 120 hz touc... moreIt has 120Hz, not only touch like iphone.

                                    Pubg players need high refresh rate of 120 hz n 120 hz touch response n above

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                                      • Shui8
                                      • KZ8
                                      • 04 Jun 2019

                                      Xperia 1 vs P30 Pro vs S10+
                                      - https://youtu.be/ihN_av8Sk2w

                                      Yup. Overblown highlight still persist on Xperia, be it on both daylights & lowlights, especially on high contrast scene, P30 blows Xperia 1 out of the water, even its HDR turns on. Low lights? Same old Sony. Not a lot can be comment. 4k stablilization, selfie front camera also flavours on P30 side (Again, Xperia front camera also suffer because of that overblown highlights).

                                      While Xperia 1 is indeed improving, it still cant manage to beat the best competition out there in the camera department. Some parts of it are indeed better, but as overall, it loses to the other two.

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • LQv
                                        • 04 Jun 2019

                                        Livid, 04 Jun 2019Do you have a link about the 3 Samsung Isocell cameras used... moreSomeone on weibo that is sony employee said that.
                                        Also if you check xperia 1 page , only main cam has Exmor for mobile written.

                                        Wiki page of X1 has the sensores .... I think it is the same used by Samsung flagships and iphone telephoto.