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Vic, 06 Dec 2017Hi all, got a quick question : How long does Sony typical s... moreSupport goes to about 2.5 years
Id suggest a 2016 flag instead of a 2018 midranger, much more software updates and eventual software fixes on those...

For ex, I got now about 1.5 year old model X Performance, from Marsh to Nougat, to Oreo a week ago, and am certain I ll get some more firmware updates over at least half a year more...
For about the same price you can get that, or some newly released midranger, that will eventually get an update to a new post Oreo android build.
X Perf probably wont....but an old flag still has better SoC, build, feats and software optimisation overall, for about the same price (300 bucos now).

If you decide new midranger, be sure its some higher level midranger, not lower mid...
For ex higher mid Xperia X gets more frequent updates, while lower mid XA doesnt so much...

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    • 07 Dec 2017

    dragonov, 04 Dec 2017If stabilisation on 1080 60 fps works, then it is hell of a... moreDo you have the xz1.

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      AnonD-641578, 06 Dec 2017well lets be honest if you are not very important person se... moreOkay - thanks! What I'm particularly concerned about is that the browser or other more important applications cant update and stop working properly. Hope this w'ont happen?

        AnonD-392500, 27 Nov 2017Qnovo adaptive fast charge takes almost 3 hours to charge X... moreNobody will trust you as you are a Sony hater, every comment is bias.

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          Vic, 06 Dec 2017Hi all, got a quick question : How long does Sony typical s... morewell lets be honest if you are not very important person security patches shoudnt affect you at all. about other updates: they not changing anything maybe some bug fixed but it they were already fixed there nothing to worry

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            • 06 Dec 2017

            Hi all, got a quick question : How long does Sony typical support their Xperia phones? Regering security updates and other importen patches?

            I'm in for a 2016 flagship or 2018 midranger? All thoughts appreciated! Thank you all

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              • 06 Dec 2017

              AnonD-392500, 06 Dec 2017Nope. I have xperia Z, X, XZ, XZs, XZ premium. So, I am obv... moreNope, more like sony hater, all you do is complain.

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                • 06 Dec 2017

                dragonov, 04 Dec 2017I am a mobile phone fan, not a Sony fanboy like you, and de... moreHey samsung fan, where did youtube gets those videos. If they are not using the real thing.

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                  Anonymous, 06 Dec 2017You should be called truegalaxyfanNope. I have xperia Z, X, XZ, XZs, XZ premium. So, I am obviously a sony fan.

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                    [deleted post]You should be called truegalaxyfan

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                      Anonymous, 05 Dec 2017Still there is possibility to be biased. Ever tried xz1 before?Sure there is, just takes a little common sense to avoid it though.

                      No, other than some brief hands on at a local store. Can't imagine it's a million miles removed from the XZ though, so I'd wager O have a pretty decent idea of what to expect regarding it's capabilities.

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                        Lex79, 05 Dec 2017Actually there is. I have used numerous devices from a rang... moreStill there is possibility to be biased. Ever tried xz1 before?

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                          Anonymous, 05 Dec 2017There is no such thing as mobile phone fan, only people wit... moreActually there is. I have used numerous devices from a range of brands, and never once have I considered myself a fan of the brand itself. If I happen to like a device from LG, that isn't going go turn me into an LG fan.

                          It is possible to stay impartial to brands, and just enjoy (or not) specific products each produces. Unfortunately to many fall to easily under the trance of 'brand loyalty' and become the nuisance that is Fanboys.

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                            dragonov, 04 Dec 2017I am a mobile phone fan, not a Sony fanboy like you, and de... moreThere is no such thing as mobile phone fan, only people with favorite phones and biased statement base on what they think or what they paid for.

                              Tann Hauser, 01 Dec 2017Ermmm, couple of corrections... Steadyshot is available ... moreIf stabilisation on 1080 60 fps works, then it is hell of a bad one.
                              and no, with the settings you mentioned for night photography, you would still lag behind a Samsung phone in auto.
                              my friend has a Huawei p9 and its photos are unbelievable! shame that a device from a company half as powerful as Sony which produces cameras like the A7s blows away my xz.
                              this phone is really lackluster.

                                AnonD-481725, 01 Dec 2017Funny fact none of the videos you mentioned proves your poi... moreI am a mobile phone fan, not a Sony fanboy like you, and definitely not a Samsung, because I never bought any of their products in my life.
                                No, there are many points in the videos which prove me right. Just watch them, I doubt you will understand anything from them anyway, though.
                                I can make very logic argument over the XZ because I OWN it. It is what they call a mediocre flagship. It is bad by all means in comparison to competition.
                                The Premium had positive reviews but technically it is still behind Samsung s8/s8+ except in performance and the front camera, which is excellent on the XZ series.
                                Apart from that, the XZ is seriously sub-par compared to s7, htc 10 and iphone 7.

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                                  Anonymous, 01 Dec 2017Correct. Iphone and pixel phones don't have manual camera m... moreThey do have manual camera modes, which have more controls than Sony's.

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                                    AnonD-641578, 03 Dec 2017This one dont have camera?Absolutely it has a heck of a camera, go to YouTube and search xperia xz1 camera comparison.. This smartphone camera is destroying every smartphone on YouTube except the new Google pixel smartphones.

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                                      Anonymous, 04 Dec 2017I cant see your point, why does its ui not good in terms of... moreYeah, look Sony are making improvements to be sure, the camera ui (and the camera experience as a whole) is miles better than what used to be.

                                      I give Sony slot of credit for that, but it's the fanboy 'Sony is and has always been the best at everything' line I take exception with.

                                      Sony are market leaders when it comes to mobile imaging hardware, no question. They are not leading the in the implementation of that hardware though. Competing and getting better yes, but leading, no.

                                      That this conversation has moved to the 'you can get better results if you tweak the manual controls....' line of reasoning is proof enough that out of the box the Sony Xperia camera experience still is somewhat lacking.

                                      You can get better results out of the Essential or Razor phones by side loading the Google camera, anyone here think that absolves those respective companies of putting out lackluster camera experiences in the firsts place though?

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                                        • 04 Dec 2017

                                        Lex79, 03 Dec 2017Spot on, whilst consumers will always welcome the choice of... moreI cant see your point, why does its ui not good in terms of manual mode on camera, I used xperia c4 before, its camera is good. Why does people acting they have this phone when they didn't. I heard they IMPROVE the ui, not make it worst.