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Anonymous, 19 Nov 2017Do you have this phone to say that it sucks. Well to see is... moreDxo is not what it used to be.
Their testing is quite circumstantial now, for ex giving points for bokeh in portrait mode to some phones, but ignoring bokeh of other like XZ Prem just because it doesnt have bokeh in portrait but in macro mode.
Also points counting doesnt have mathematic equative background now, they add points as they like, for ex out of 90 and 87 they get an overall 100 score ?!

So what to make out of their tests actually?
Cant trust dxo anymore.

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    • Anonymous
    • t7X
    • 19 Nov 2017

    AnonD-392500, 19 Nov 2017DXO mark and antutu are different. Antutu is just a softwar... moreWhat phone did you suggest? Instead of this? I have read alot of complain on S8 camera being blurry and not focusing well.

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      • Anonymous
      • t7X
      • 19 Nov 2017

      AnonD-315649, 19 Nov 2017Been using for a month now. Battery is great, display is ri... moreThanks cant decide whether I' ll going to earn for this phone or other brand. I guess this phone is worth to buy. Hey can tell me a good case for this phone.

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        • AnonD-315649
        • n7G
        • 19 Nov 2017

        Been using for a month now. Battery is great, display is rich with colors and its fast and reliable. You also get monthly security patches. Can't complain. Good camera and I'm impressed with the front camera as well. With the metal build and gorilla glass 5 display. This will age well. Have nothing bad to say. It's a solid phone with no problems so far.
        Recommend because of build and the great dual stereo speakers for video.
        It also have superb sound quality, I've paired my bose qc 35 to this phone.
        First phone I'm years I've used that I have no complain about. I really tried to find something bad! But there is nothing...
        If it goes down in price it's going to be a really good deal, but I would say buy it anyway, it's a quality phone much better then the xz. Because of the build quality :)

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          • Anonymous
          • t7X
          • 19 Nov 2017

          AnonD-392500, 19 Nov 2017*XZ premium and XZ1Do you have this phone to say that it sucks. Well to see is to believe, even if DXO is a group of professionals, you could say that they could be more biased since being a human could have a biased perception.

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            • Anonymous
            • t7X
            • 19 Nov 2017

            AnonD-392500, 19 Nov 2017*XZ premium and XZ1I know, but both of thek are well known and probable review devices based on popularity, xperia was under rated phone. If you used one you'll know its under rated. Antutu rated processor performance while DXO mark rate photo quality, but based from what I have read, DXO is kind of biased base from the popularity of the device. Admit it that when were talking about android, Samsung was and still the most popular. In some review they said that LG V30 is the best cameraphone.

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              • AnonD-392500
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              • 19 Nov 2017

              AnonD-392500, 19 Nov 2017DXO mark and antutu are different. Antutu is just a softwar... more*XZ premium and XZ1

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                • 6p$
                • 19 Nov 2017

                Anonymous, 18 Nov 2017Not always, most of those rating apps like antutu didn't re... moreDXO mark and antutu are different. Antutu is just a software but DXO mark is a team of professionals who test cameras and phone cameras. Yeah, I have XZs which share same camera with XZ premium. Trust me, it sucks.

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                  • AnonD-34934
                  • 7t{
                  • 19 Nov 2017

                  Anonymous, 18 Nov 2017Not always, most of those rating apps like antutu didn't re... moreGood answer and good question too ;-)

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                    • Anonymous
                    • t7X
                    • 18 Nov 2017

                    AnonD-392500, 18 Nov 2017DXO mark gives honest opinion. Read the below postNot always, most of those rating apps like antutu didn't really give honest ratings. Its more reliable to ask those owners, if they tell the truth that is. Do you have this device?

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                      • AnonD-392500
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                      • 18 Nov 2017

                      Anonymous, 18 Nov 2017Sony use EIS on video recording but not on taking photos or... moreDXO mark gives honest opinion. Read the below post

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                        • Anonymous
                        • sxs
                        • 18 Nov 2017

                        Anonymous, 18 Nov 2017OIS is a more effective, advanced technique and also out pe... moreSony use EIS on video recording but not on taking photos or still image. Does anyone their used this phone. Make an honest opinion on its camera performance and its photo quality. A lot of folks here are arguing if its worthed based on its camera performance. I dont have it yet, but I know one thing sony manufactures most other brands camera module.

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                          • AnonD-392500
                          • 6p$
                          • 18 Nov 2017

                          AnonD-481725, 18 Nov 2017Sony did it once again, the Sony Xperia xz1 and his brother... moreForget youtube camera tests. Thry are just amatures and some are paid by smartphone manufacturers. They give biased reviews most of the time.

                          Here is what DXO mark(the most respected site that benchmark image quility of smartphone cameras) says

                          "Sony’s Xperia XZ Premium features a capable smartphone camera that gets the job done — especially in good light — but which doesn’t rise to the heights of the top phones from other manufacturers. In particular, it is sensitive to harsh lighting conditions outdoors, and finicky in low light and indoor situations. Video performance is also competent, but marred by problems with loss of detail. The stacked sensor does allow the XZ Premium to support a novel 960 fps slow-motion mode, but even at 19MP, it doesn’t produce overall better images or video than many other phones with lower or similar-resolution sensors"

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                            • Anonymous
                            • tAT
                            • 18 Nov 2017

                            AnonD-481725, 18 Nov 2017Sony did it once again, the Sony Xperia xz1 and his brother... moreAll those links are from Unreliable, Unknown, Unrespected, Cheap testers. Actuaully proves Nothing. Try this camera phone comparasion from gsmarena, 2017, the worlds most respected mobile phone site for over 16 years. (Sony XZ premium has idential camera to XZ1)

                            https://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g6_samsung_galaxy_s8_sony_xperia_xz_premium-review-1612p9.php
                            "Casual snaps will look best on the Samsung S8 thanks to its widest aperture, largest pixels and OIS."
                            "We'd pick the Galaxy S8 if battery life is of greatest importance."
                            "The Super AMOLED display on the Samsung phone is also raking victories in our tests across the board."
                            "Hand-held lowlight photography is best avoided on the Xperia."



                            gsmarenas camera shootout from 2016. Samsung and LG G5 are equal winners, third place is Iphone....Last place was Sony camera.

                            https://www.gsmarena.com/camera_shootout_iphone7_galaxy_s7_xperia_xz_lg_g5-review-1509p7.php
                            "We don't mean to say that the Sony Xperia XZ is a one hit wonder, but it's just not as universally excellent all-round photography tool as the LG G5 and Samsung S7 are and it can occasionally trip here and there - especially in low light regardless which of the two cameras you use."
                            "So it turns out that more than 6 months after their release, the LG G5 and the Samsung Galaxy S7 remain the top choices when it comes to cameraphones."

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                              • AnonD-481725
                              • StN
                              • 18 Nov 2017

                              Sony did it once again, the Sony Xperia xz1 and his brothers are invading the YouTube and destroying its comment threads with its superior camera quality against the competitors which are using a lot of camera techs like dual camera lens with no noticeable benefits.
                              https://youtu.be/iWo4aGLyIW0
                              https://youtu.be/Q0IqoHbp8Rg
                              https://youtu.be/rMVeypoMr2Q
                              https://youtu.be/aYAKUDM7L0w
                              https://youtu.be/lrnmFwd0mOU
                              However there were actually a decent competitor and ironically with no dual camera lens.
                              https://youtu.be/egk2jJpPjC4

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                                • Anonymous
                                • tAT
                                • 18 Nov 2017

                                Anonymous, 17 Nov 2017Does this means EIS function better than OIS? I thought the... moreOIS is a more effective, advanced technique and also out performs EIS in dimly lit areas.
                                With OIS, there is no image degradation as necessary compensations are made before optical signal is fed to the CCD. (unlike EIS)

                                EIS has become quite popular these days because of they are light and less expensive.
                                But at low resolutions and in poor lighting conditions, you might see significant degradation.

                                https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-OIS-and-EIS-in-smartphone-camera-and-which-is-preferable

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • tAT
                                  • 18 Nov 2017

                                  Anonymous, 17 Nov 2017Does this means EIS function better than OIS? I thought the... moreEIS is the video image that occupies only 90 percent of the CCD, when the image is electronically magnified to fill the remaining 10 percent of the frame, there will be an inevitable loss of image quality and resolution. This is the problem with Sony phones.

                                  OIS works before the image hits the Charge Coupled Device (CCD), meaning that no electronic adjustments are necessary and that the image is stable when it hits the chip, completely filling the chip’s entire surface area. Cameras with optical image stabilization typically also feature a gyro-sensor built into the camera to negate camera shake.
                                  If your video requires the highest of image quality, then OIS will be your most ideal choice. If you require smaller, less bulky and image quality is not a major concern, then you might want to consider EIS.

                                  https://www.motionelements.com/blog/articles/eis-or-ois-your-guide-to-image-stabilization-systems

                                  More advanced and better camera sytems use both EIS and OIS on their phones. Such as Apple and Samsung. Thats why their cameras are superior to Sony. Here are some trusted comparasions from gsmarena.

                                  https://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g6_samsung_galaxy_s8_sony_xperia_xz_premium-review-1612p9.php

                                  "We'd pick the Galaxy S8 if battery life is of greatest importance"

                                  "The Super AMOLED display on the Samsung phone is also raking victories in our tests across the board"

                                  "Casual snaps will look best on the S8 thanks to its widest aperture, largest pixels, and OIS."

                                  "Hand-held lowlight photography is best avoided on the Xperia, particularly in full auto mode"

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                                    • AnonD-481725
                                    • StN
                                    • 17 Nov 2017

                                    Anonymous, 17 Nov 2017Does this means EIS function better than OIS? I thought the... moreEIS has the most advantage, good thing with OIS that it helps with steadiness when taking photos, good for depressed people XD, however EIS has no role in this regard, but it is way much important for video image stabilization.

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • sxs
                                      • 17 Nov 2017

                                      AnonD-481725, 17 Nov 2017They have no difficulty, they actually never planned, all t... moreDoes this means EIS function better than OIS? I thought they have same.function.

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                                        • AnonD-481725
                                        • StN
                                        • 17 Nov 2017

                                        Anonymous, 16 Nov 2017I always thought sony is one of the prime camera manufactur... moreThey have no difficulty, they actually never planned, all the competitors such as Apple, Samsung.. Are using both OIS and EIS together and yet they didn't achieve what Sony did with only EIS since the z5, Sony is actually looking more farther than OIS and dual camera lens, since Sony is one of the biggest camera manufacturers, FYI Sony uses OIS only in the selfy camera of a midrange smartphone the Ultra series.

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