Sony Xperia Z5 Premium
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- 29 Dec 2015
AnonD-391800, 29 Dec 2015And...you have proven otherwise? "Boy"?! Go back to your ... moreu sound like u work for sony for free cause ur not doing whatever u r trying to do properly.
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Lex79, 29 Dec 2015My point is you made wild claims without any sufficient inf... moreAnd...you have proven otherwise?
"Boy"?!
Go back to your wonderland kiddo.
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- 29 Dec 2015
AnonD-391800, 29 Dec 2015What is this?
Some kind of elaboration?
I pointed out w... moreMy point is you made wild claims without any sufficient information to back them up. Yet you now accuse me of the same. You are a hypocrite.
My points are neither biased nor in any way hateful, quite getting so hurt over a little criticism boy! It's not like it's aimed at you personally now is it.
You still haven't backed those claims up by the way and it now 2 months later, and several of them have in fact been proven wrong. The GPU for instance is not the best, the finger print scanner is neither the fastest nor most accurate example of such a feature, and it has been shown to be than reliable or convenient for left handed users. The screen does not have the best blacks at all (what ever best blacks means anyway, I am assuming you mean deepest) and you still have justified your claims regarding multi tasking.
And so no, you pointed out nothing, you just made nonsensical accusations, yet again, it's all you do.
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- 29 Dec 2015
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015........what?????
Let me get this straight, I tell you t... moreWhat is this?
Some kind of elaboration?
I pointed out why your comments are NOT critical, but biased and in some occasions hateful...
So you can quote my post where I point all the strenghts of a device IMO, after which I was viciously attacked by trolls yes.
I dont mind...
In fact thank you for quoting ;-)
People should after all know what xperia Z is about
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- 29 Dec 2015
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015You are constantly over on the iPhone 6S page with your Pro... moreMicrosoft 950xl is currently the best camera smartphone
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Should I buy this or the note 5?
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- 29 Dec 2015
Dual heatpipes, 29 Dec 2015Critical comments only from you, if you love LG or Samsung ... moreYou are constantly over on the iPhone 6S page with your Pro Sony waffle heatpipes.
How come you get to do that, but for some reason you think I shouldn't be allowed to voice my own criticism here????
Care to inform me as to why this is???
"and my software updates always better than your Korea phones, you know why? They are busy on trolling at Sony side but not on something serious."
Now I'm trying my best to figure out what it is you are attempting to say here, a little confused though, you say they are your software updates????
So by yours, you mean you work for Sony???
Oh and I don't currently have a Korean phone in my home, I have an iPhone and a Moto E. So what do you mean by my Korean phones??
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- 29 Dec 2015
AnonD-391800, 29 Dec 2015This:
"But I'm not sure where your getting your 'why don't... more........what?????
Let me get this straight, I tell you that you are unable to tell the difference between critical comments and trolling.......
And your response is to copy and paste my critical comments into a reply in which you basically accuse me of trolling?!??!?!............right..........
You haven't actually refuted any of the points that you have pasted into your, frankly pathetic reply, all you have done here is make your usual silly accusations, can you not even see that???????
Whilst I have got you on the subject of...how did you put it: "Overexaggerating without actual substance in praise of another manufacturer device."
Here one of your prior posts:
"SD card,
stereo speakers, hifi audio, ldac bt sound (ie overall best connectivity),
best overall camera,
strongest gpu, fastest fingerprint sensor, fastest multitasking,
best blacks ips screen, best batterylife,
waterproof build, ps4 remoteplay,
best cost benefit ratio/ has sd card for up to 220 gb space, (ry buying iphone 6s or galaxy s6 with 128 gb with their pricetags, so you dont have to worry for your 4k video feature storage, or flac files, or ... and then talk about affordability)"
This is one of your earlier diatribes in which you basically claim that everything about the Z5 is the best, but you do so without any actual substance, as you say.
Now whose exaggerating without substance, based on bias???????
And again I have asked you twice now to back up your claim of faster multi tasking on the Z5P compared to the Note 5 and iPhone by using actual metrics or data that is not your own warped opinion, but you can't even do that can you??????
I wash my hands of you Tann, I have said it before, you are everything that is wrong about being a fanboy, you can't issue a comment at all unless it's to spout your own pro Sony popoganda or to make childish accusations.
I didn't start this latest conversation with you, but why dont we go back to an earlier agreement we made, I'll continue to praise or critique devices and manufacturers based on experience or research....and you can go back to claiming everything about every Sony smartphone ever is the absolute and unquestionable best in the mobile world...simply because you love Sony!
And we'll give each other's comments a wide berth!
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- 29 Dec 2015
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015Your right the Z5 series is a good smartphone series...just... moreCritical comments only from you, if you love LG or Samsung just use it and don't trolling Sony at here, as a Sony fans I wouldn't like this, same with all others.
Then, You have to read this:
The Z5 camera is the world best smartphone camera!
http://petapixel.com/2015/10/01/dxomark-the-sony-xperia-z5-packs-the-worlds-best-smartphone-camera/
No need you agree or not, that's the fact, and my software updates always better than your Korea phones, you know why? They are busy on trolling at Sony side but not on something serious.
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- 29 Dec 2015
AnonD-436501, 03 Sep 2015RAM management on android works different from computers, a... morethat is sign of heavy overlaying skin boolsh*t like touchwiz which is lagging piece of crap.
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- 29 Dec 2015
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015Your right the Z5 series is a good smartphone series...just... moreThis:
"But I'm not sure where your getting your 'why don't they focus on their software updates' line (your Sony obsessed delusional little mind as usual I'll bet) both Samsung ang LG at least appear to be making as much as, if not more of an effort to stay up to date in software terms as Sony. Isn't the G4 already getting is marshmallow update???? And there is an article on this very site containing a video showing the S6 Edge running its 6.0.1 firmware."
Ill informed comment based on bias against sony...
This:
"Sony's mobile division, despite the fanatical following it enjoys (fanatical, but no where near large enough to be profitable it seems) is not exempt from this."
Labeling sony fans whilst entirely excluding other manufacturer fans out of the same label.
This:
"The Note 5 is not supposed to offer anything over the S6 Edge Plus, they were released at the same time. Like I said, I don't see the point of the Edge Plus.
The Note 5 however, offer's far more when compared to the Standard S6, than the Z5P offers over the Z5."
Overexaggerating without actual substance in praise of another manufacturer device.
This:
"As for 3d touch being gimmicky??, well we'll see what you have of say about that when Sony, like the rest of the Android world adopt it in their future devices. I remember Touch ID was also called a gimmick by Android (and Sony) Fans, now however they seem to have changed their tune. "
Bias to apples gimmicks being an owner of one and claiming it to be more valuable than other manufacturers gimmicks.
This:
"4K screen - Hugely redundant
Increased SOC performance??? The 810 lags behind other high end competing SOC's from 2015. The dozen or so extra points it scores in the Z5P over the Z5 doesn't even get close to making up that shortfall.
And a different back design.........right, yeah let's go with that 'innovation' shall we."
Deliberately reading my claims wrongly so to input his subjective points on tech matters and of course without proper sony user experience and also against a sony device in any way possible.
So yeah, an iphone biased, ill informed sony fan/user hater...
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- 29 Dec 2015
AnonD-100398, 29 Dec 2015100% correct i.e they are offering the free headphone to lu... moreAye, That G4 thing really bothers me, I paid £506 from Clove Technology (a UK online retailer) to get one on launch day and that was the plastic version, now it's going for £269.99 for the leather one.
Obviously I have since parted with the device, not because I was unhappy with it or anything, if fact I think it's a prime candidate for best Android phone of the year, but that's just my opinion before any of the Sony crowd jump down my throat!
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- 29 Dec 2015
Dual heatpipes, 29 Dec 2015The Z5 series are good phone, why you all only pay attentio... moreYour right the Z5 series is a good smartphone series...just not perfect as you and your fellow Sony zealots are constantly claiming, they have many flaws, just like the competition.
If I am overly critical of Sony, then it is because I know they can do better, they have made choices during the recent generations of their mobile products that I haven't agreed with, based on sales figures of such devices, I am not alone in that opinion.
Sorry that seems to upset you and those like you so much, but who cares!
You feel you have a right to your opinion, I therefore have a right to mine. I just don't base mine on bias towards or against any electronic goods manufacturing company.
You like Tann Hauser simply lack the ability to tell the difference between critical comments and trolling.
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- 29 Dec 2015
Anonymous, 29 Dec 2015I bet people like you didn't complain when the vivo release... moreActually anonymous nobody, I am always sceptical when Oem's push the boat in terms of display resolution.
I watched live when Steve Jobs introduced the retina display, and was concerned the rest of the hardware wasn't up to the job of supporting the increased resolution (the A4 chip in the iPhone 4 was little more than and overclocked version of the SoC in the iPhone 3GS).
Was also watching live when LG debuted the G3, was really enjoying what I was seeing right up until the mention the of 2k screen, yes that was when I started rolling my eyes, because I knew LG were announcing a huge increase in display resolution without a corresponding jump in processing power, the Snapdragon 801 is itself little more than an overclocked 800.
To address another of your other silly points, Not everyone thinks Samsung is the best. I was also disappointed when I saw that the S6 was going to feature a 2k screen whilst having a smaller battery than it's predecessor , and considering how much the battery life of the S6 absolutely sucks, I was right to be disappointed.
Had Samsung or Apple or LG, HTC or any of the rest been first with a 4k screen, I would have been just as sceptical.
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- 29 Dec 2015
AnonD-391800, 29 Dec 2015Aha, see you are beating round the bush with your personal ... moreonly a fool wud insert the spen in a opposite direction and it is not a OEM fault .what u r talking .is like one are trying to insert the usb type C port charging cable on a Usb 2.0 smartphone forcefully i mean who wud be that fool to do that. and break there lovely smartphone...having said that Z5p is one of most overrated smartphone for its gimmiky 4k screen and it is not at all Premium...
P.s even a QHD screen can do a quality VR so its not a like it is only limited to Z5p.
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- 29 Dec 2015
AnonD-391800, 29 Dec 2015Aha, see you are beating round the bush with your personal ... moreI'm not beating around the bush at all, anyone reading my posts by now is more than aware of my current stance regarding Sony's mobile division. But unfortunately you fanboys are unable to comprehend the difference between trolling and critique.
GPU performance difference is minimal between the two devices, and besides, there is one aspect of performance that few reviews touch upon: sustained performance. If you go read the Anandtech review of any 810 based android devise this year, you'll see there in their findings there is a big issue with the sustainable performance of the 2015 generation of Android flagships based on 810.
So much of an issue in fact, that according to Anandtech the sustainable performance of the 810 is in many cases actually less than that of the 805, so whilst the Z5P may perform ever so slightly better in one or two benchmarks versus the Note 5, that performance will rapidly dip, much faster than the Exynos in the Note 5. Don't take my word for it, go and read the reviews yourself.
You also say "And it is faster in multitask much more than note5, slightly than iphone" Now whilst on the surface that is a vague statement, it hint at specific findings. So again, what metrics are you basing it on??? or is it just pro Sony rhetoric???
Design is subjective, yes there are pro's to Sony's take, there are also many cons, the fragility of the glass front and back for instance, or the relatively poor placement of the fingerprint scanner for left handed users. Pro's and con's, but all you ever seem to waffle on about are the pro's and accuse anyone mentioning the cons of trolling, it's childish to the extreme!
I actually like the design of the Xperia Z series, have for years, I would list it as a strength of the series, but again I weigh it's good points against it's negatives, with you, and cause it's Sony....it's all Good!!!!
As far as I am aware, the Z5P does not use it's 4k mode for VR, as that would be way to taxing on the GPU and battery, so other than glancing at photo's or the occasional video, in which case the vast majority of findings suggest there is little to no benefit of doing at 4k over 2k on a 5.5 inch screen, there is nothing that display offers.
Surprise Surprise, the Z5P is according to you the best Phablet out there, but then that was always going to be the case for you wasn't it??
I'm betting the Z5c is the best device with less than a 5 inch screen???
The Z5 is the best mainstream flagship too eh???
And it's no question that they were always going to be, weren't they Tann Hauser?????
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Lex79, 29 Dec 2015Yes I'll informed and biased to the extreme.
The Note 5 ... moreAha, see you are beating round the bush with your personal opinions on every point. So you are right, no sense in debating between us ;-) .
But do learn to comprehend what you read.
Did not say its best exynos device did I?
And note is inferior in gpu performance, which the user actually notices more than cpu performance
And it is faster in multitask much more than note5, slightly than iphone.
About build,its easily objectifiable, just count pros that each build feature adds to useability of the device.
About note5, nope, nothing except faulty designed s pen and bigger screen against s6, and that 1 gb ram extra is never used by that SoC ( do see ram managment for proof).
About that 4k screen, there are still no apps that utilise it, but VR performance comes to mind. We shall wait and see
Each to its own
IMO z5 prem is most complete and best made flag phablet out there
IYO it is obviously not...
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- 29 Dec 2015
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015And here comes Dual heat pipes with its usual 'I am obsesse... moreThe Z5 series are good phone, why you all only pay attention to the advantage of other phones especially Samsung?! And you only troll Sony products badly, why???? And you are frequently to do that.
Don't ever foolish people by your comments at Sony opinion page, you messing up quite obviously.
I know the competitors have a lot of trolls at here, because they really don't have a Z5 and they just giving faulty comments and misleading people. This the most rubbish and shameless marketing strategy.
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- 29 Dec 2015
Lex79, 29 Dec 2015Yes I'll informed and biased to the extreme. The Note 5 ... moreI bet people like you didn't complain when the vivo released the xplay 3s having a 2k display phone. And Samsung then also moved to 2k to some of their products and everyone thinks that Samsung is the best.Nobody complained about it because Samsung(everyone's favorite except me) moved to 2k.Nobody thought its gimmick because Samsung moved to 2k. And now, Sony( world's most underrated company) released their 2nd flagship this year which is z5p with a 4k screen, and everyone who heard it thinks its a gimmick. Sony,you should have let Sammy took the name of the first company to release a 4k screen phone, so when you release one, nobody would think its only a gimmick.
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AnonD-391800, 29 Dec 2015Ill informed?
Duh, I see you came only to troll obviously.... moreYes I'll informed and biased to the extreme.
The Note 5 is not supposed to offer anything over the S6 Edge Plus, they were released at the same time. Like I said, I don't see the point of the Edge Plus.
The Note 5 however, offer's far more when compared to the Standard S6, than the Z5P offers over the Z5.
Being the best performing 810 device? aside from the fact that as far as I am aware, no one has as yet made that claim in an official review, that still places it firmly behind the Exynos 7420 competition (and the Apple A9). Best mutli-tasking???? what metrics are you basing that on??
Design is also another subjective issue, your opinion that it's better, is just that, your opinion, and it comes from you with as much bias as it would an official Sony sales rep.
As for 3d touch being gimmicky??, well we'll see what you have of say about that when Sony, like the rest of the Android world adopt it in their future devices. I remember Touch ID was also called a gimmick by Android (and Sony) Fans, now however they seem to have changed their tune.
I do agree with you though that the Edge on the S6 Edge series is a gimmicky as the 4k screen is on the Z5P.
And finally, though |I have explained this to you over and over, I am not bias against Sony, I am however critical of them, If you can't differentiate between the two, then it's pointless talking to you.