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  • 08 Aug 2016

RishiGuru, 22 Jul 2016I have decent experiences in Asphalt 8 and Real Racing 3 on... moreBetween I heard audio quality of LG V10 is also fantastic and upcoming V20 may have even better.

    rambo, 20 Jul 2016Hello guys can anybody tell me how is x5 max for gammming c... moreI have decent experiences in Asphalt 8 and Real Racing 3 on Vivo X5Max. Someone here also pointed out the same for NOVA 3. So overall X5Max plays heavy games well.

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      • 20 Jul 2016

      How is the gamming on vivo x5 max does it run big games without any lag or there is a lag or graphics problem with it please tell

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        • rA7
        • 20 Jul 2016

        Hello guys can anybody tell me how is x5 max for gammming can it run mortal combat or nova 3 or asphalt 8 without lagging and chopping issues please help

          Vivo X5Max user, 11 Jul 2016@RishiGuru Hi, I was comparing lenovo vibe x3 with Vivo... more"Lossless" is a relative term used by phone manufacturers to denote HiFi sound quality. But then what is HiFi sound?

          HiFi, or high fidelity means to be highly loyal to the original sound. Audio centric smartphone manufacturers like Vivo achieve HiFi by minimizing noise and distortion of sound in their flagship smartphones while raising its accuracy of response to human audible sound frequency. Sadly in the past phone makers have declined to make improvements in the audio system since people are used to bad quality 128 kbps MP3 sound.

          HiFi starts with high quality flawless music files often in the format of FLAC, which are close to music discs in sound quality, since they are compressed without losing music information. They are much better than even lossy 320 kbps MP3.

          An audio centric smartphone like Vivo X5Max contains high quality discrete audio DAC, I/V converter and audio amplifying circuit. All these chips are powered by a separate power supply devoted to audio only. X5Max packs an ESS SABRE ES9018 digital-to-analog-converter (DAC), an ESS SABRE ES9601 current-to-voltage converter (op-amp) and a Texas Instruments OPA1612 headphone amplifier to provide professional grade mobile HiFi audio solution. The audio from X5Max can cover full frequency response range from 20Hz to 20KHz, which cover all the sound frequencies sensible to human ears. The 120dB high signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) will keep all the music details while minimizing the noise generated through circulation. An incredible dynamic range of 118dB means X5Max is able to faithfully produce the quietest whispers/ murmurs in music as well as the loudest sounds. And less than 0.001% total harmonic distortion (THD) will make sure the sound you hear is true to the original sound. All the above explains why you can get exceptional music experience with X5Max.

          Lenovo Vibe X3 shares many audio components of X5Max like the DAC & amplifier. It is able to produce similar audio performance to that of X5Max. I own both the phones and when it comes down to sound quality over headphones, I prefer X5Max over Vibe X3 by a slight margin. Both are able to create very high volume levels over ear buds and in-ear earphones. In short you will be able to achieve the path to audio nirvana with any of these smartphones.

          Cheers!!!

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            • 11 Jul 2016

            @RishiGuru

            Hi, I was comparing lenovo vibe x3 with Vivo X5Max. Lenovo claims their phone has a lossless 3.5 headphone output. Can you please tell me how X5Max's headphone output compares with Vibe X3? Is X5Max's headphone jack lossless too?

              AnonD-557636, 09 Jul 2016I have few questions regarding Vivo X5Max and v3max. rishig... morePlease find the answers to your questions below:

              1) Both Vivo X5Max and V3Max support only GREEN colored LED for app notifications. For X5Max even if the LED is multi-colored we can only use GREEN color. LED will also glow GREEN constantly while charging up on both phones. Additionally, X5Max notification LED will also constantly glow RED while recording audio. I have also found when the battery charge is below 1% in X5Max, the notification LED blinks RED. V3Max do not support RED color. Mind you notification LED works only when display is off for both phones.

              2) Internationally Vivo must provide Google Play Services in all their smartphones or else no one will buy. To provide Google Services Vivo must go through Android certification process using Android Compatibility Test Suite (CTS). This is made mandatory from Android Lollipop (ver 5.0) onwards. The international version of V3Max uses Android Lollipop and hence needs to pass CTS test in-order to provide you the Google services. Unfortunately, as of now CTS does not support the ultra high resolution lossless FLAC audio files. Hence neither Google Play Music app nor Vivo's own "i-Music" default music app can play FLAC files. This is unfortunate situation. Vivo X5Max on the other hand uses Android KitKat (ver 4.4.4) which at the time of release (Jan, 2015) did not required to go through CTS test to provide us Google Play services.

              So in a way X5Max is the best of both worlds, it gives you the power to fully exploit its audiophile grade audio hardware built in by supporting lossless audio FLAC files through its awesome "i-Music" default app. At the same time you get full access to Google services in it.

              3) In short X5Max have two audio paths to its headphone jack, one geared for ultimate audio performance and the other to conserve battery. Performance come at an expense as the discrete audio DAC + IV converter drains a lot of battery power. So when you have a worthwhile source like FLAC or 320 kbps MP3 files, you switch on HiFi mode in X5Max. For something like low quality 128 kbps MP3, you turn it off to save battery power while listening.

              V3Max frankly cannot be segmented as an audiophile grade phone as it has a single mediocre grade AKM AK4375 DAC with in-built Class-G headphone amplifier. X5Max can reach over 120 dB SNR and distortion less than -100 dB while V3Max somehow coughs up 105 dB SNR and distortion of -97 dB. As such V3Max have only one audio path for headphones through AK4375 with HiFi enabled. Saying that V3Max will slay twice more expensive phones like Samsung Galaxy S7 or HTC 10 where audio quality is concerned.

              4) Top accessory companies like Nillkin do not provide screen protectors to mid-range devices like V3Max. Ofcource they have world class tempered glass display protectors available for Vivo flagship devices like X5Max. For V3Max you can vouch for one low cost locally made protector. I got one plastic display protector for V3Max.

              5) As you said in some other post comparing flagship devices like X5Max with midrange devices like V3Max is like comparing apples to oranges. X5Max cost INR 9K over V3Max. As such it is built with more premium components like sapphire glass camera lens protection. I do not know if there is any separate protection available for camera lens.

              6) If you are after music at a small budget get the Cowon EK2. I believe it retails in India for INR 1.3K. This earphone is not for bass lovers OR for those who loves the popular V-groove (high bass + high treble + recessed mids type of sound) which are quite popular with electronic music. EK2 on the other hand has a flat frequency response; it produces the real true sound with just the amount of bass + mids + highs as the composer has intended!!! But it comes with big 10mm drivers for which you need smartphones that are capable to drive them like X5Max, V3Max etc. With other smartphones with no dedicated headphone amplifier the EK2 may sound anemic as those phones do not have the power to drive those 10mm drivers.

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                • 09 Jul 2016

                RishiGuru, 28 Jun 2016Vivo X5Max like every other smartphone does tends to heat u... moreI have few questions regarding Vivo X5Max and v3max. rishiguru can you please help me out?

                1. Do both x5max and v3max have only GREEN color notification led? I noticed when I first charged x5max after unboxing for the first few minutes the notification led was RED in color. How can I use the other colors?

                2. Why can I not play flac audio files in v3max? Due to vivo audio prowess I got some high quality audio flac files from my friend. But when go to play the default player plays the song but is unable to show me the name of the song, the artist or the album. It just shows as unknown file as if it cannot read the file properly. I have tried the same audio files with my dad's x5max and it not only plays but also shows every detail like name, artist and album.

                3. Why in v3max we do not have the HIFI button in the music player? In X5Max I can switch HIFI on/off as required but I cannot do the same in v3max.

                4. Can anybody throw some pointer to a decent screen protector for v3max? It seems x5max comes with gorilla glass 3 so no worries there, but my v3max has just mineral glass which is prone to scratches.

                5. X5max uses expensive sapphire glass as main camera lens protection. It is as tough as diamond and near impossible to scratch. But v3max comes with only mineral glass, so I am worries if the lens cover gets scratched. My friend once got the lens cover of his mobile scratched and then every photo he took came out blurry as the lens inside could not properly take the photo

                6. The headphones bundled with x5max are awesome while that of v3max is cheap. Where can I buy x5max’s headphones and if not can anybody suggest me a good quality inear headphone within thousand rupees or so?

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                  • 09 Jul 2016

                  RishiGuru, 08 Jul 2016X5Max was Vivo's most expensive handset ever released in In... moreCall it a misfortune or sheer coincidence, my dad's phone went kaput two days ago. However due to his business needs which requires constant communication we went to buy a smartphone yesterday and got ourselves a vivo x5max. As always preparing & setting my dad's phone is my job........ so here comes my inital impressions on x5max....

                  1. Built quality is better than my vivo v3max.
                  2. Feels more premuium in the hand like a flagship device should.
                  3. X5max display is the best display I have seen till date
                  4. Music through headphones sound more clear like distilled water and volumes levels are even louder than my v3max. X5max have much better sound than v3max, the best that I have ever heard.
                  5. You said x5max speaker loudness is not as good as v3max........ but I found it be as loud. Ringtones can be clearly heard.
                  6. Charging takes a lot of time. The battery of x5max was completely depleted when uncased so I used my v3max charger and it took two and a half hours to charge 100%. My v3max will charge completely in just one hour and 45 mins.......
                  7. Battery backup is better than expected..... in such a slim phone.... I expect my dad can easily last a day with it without charging.....
                  8. Camera performance is superb.... just no words.... much much better than v3max.... especially under low light conditions...
                  9. Selfie camera is as good as v3 max
                  10. You feel no difference while using or operating both the phones. Funtouch OS of vivo looks and feels the same in both phones..... and both provides fluid experiences. I found no software lags in x5max...
                  11. My dad will never play games... still I installed Nova 3 which is a super heavy game. Guess what the game played super smooth on x5max ... with full display settings. This was not expected but x5max proved me that it can handle high definition heavy games quite well.
                  12. I miss the fingerprint scanner on x5max. However for my dad it is not a cause of concern.
                  13. What he is concerned about is call quality... and I affirm it is better than v3max on this aspect. Sound through earpiece is more loud and clear.
                  14. X5max has an extra noise cancellation microphone beside the back camera so the person on the other side of the call hears more clearly. V3max does not have this feature....
                  15. Both phones support OTG.
                  16. 4G reception is slightly better in x5max over v3max.
                  17. The camera LED is better in x5max. More bright... more whiteish....
                  18. No FM radio is a bummer in X5max. But flagships dont have fm now...

                  I truly love this x5max flagship from vivo. So beautiful ...so slim... it was a complete worthy buy. I will stick to my V3max for its more powerfull cpu for games and also more ram...... and also because dad likes the look, better reception quality, thinness and the quality of the x5max... thanks rishiguru for pointing out to such a great device.

                    Anonymous, 07 Jul 2016Wow it seems you are truly the Guru of X5Max. It took me so... moreX5Max was Vivo's most expensive handset ever released in India at INR 33K. Their is a reason why it is most expensive, as it reflects one of their best craftsmanship and engineering excellence. It also used some the best and most expensive hardware components, so the price remained quite high. We can now find a X5Max at INR 20K in online stores like Amazon, Flipkart and Snapdeal. It is a killer deal now and if can grab one, you will be receiving straight 40% discount on the MRP of this device.

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                      • Anonymous
                      • Hkt
                      • 07 Jul 2016

                      RishiGuru, 07 Jul 2016When I first laid hands on my Vivo X5Max, I could feel this... moreWow it seems you are truly the Guru of X5Max. It took me some time to go through all your post, but it was worth reading. I recently got myself a v3max, but I am contemplating now as now we can get this last year vivo flagship at the same price band of my v3max.

                        AnonD-349713, 18 Feb 2015For all who wonders why Vivo phones are so expensive: Becau... moreWhen I first laid hands on my Vivo X5Max, I could feel this phone to be different. It not only looks and feels premium but the engineering and its execution is also top notch. And it had a goal to achieve, to be the thinnest phone in the world. Much thought have gone into designing this product. As usual being technically inclined I collected a lot of hardware information regarding this phone which was quite revealing. Just thought to share the same.

                        Vivo X5Max uses the following ICs (chips) in its Printed Circuit Board (PCB):

                        1) Qualcomm Snapdragon 615 (MSM8939): The Snapdragon 615 is the first octa-core 64-bit processor from Qualcomm, manufactured using 28 nm process. The CPU is divided into two clusters: a Quad-core 1.7 GHz Cortex-A53 performance cluster and another quad-core 1.0 GHz Cortex-A53 backup cluster. The performance cluster always remains in ON position and only on high multi-threaded computational demand the additional backup cluster is switched ON. For X5Max, Vivo have detuned the performance cluster to 1.5 GHz to save battery and also reduce heat generated on full CPU load. The backup cluster remains untouched at 1 GHz operating frequency. I believe in X5Max a slight detuning was necessary considering the sheer thinness of this device which will in no way help in heat dissipation and in containing a bigger battery. The inbuilt GPU of Snap 615 is Adreno 405 which is a solid workhorse for 1080p games. Any higher resolution and you are stretching its limits.

                        2) SK Hynix Integrated Memory (H9TQ18ABJTMC): A single memory chip from Hynix containing both RAM and eMMC Storage, thus saving a lot of space on the already cramped PCBs of smartphones. This memory chip offers a 2 GB LP-DDR3 RAM running at 800 Mhz frequency. Additionally it contains a 16 GB eMMC 4.5 storage space (Phone memory) with read speeds of up to 140 MB/s and write speeds of up to 60 MB/s.

                        3) Qualcomm Atheros WCN3660: An integrated connectivity chip which offers dual band WiFi at 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz operation. Bluetooth 3.0 for audio streaming and device connectivity as well as Bluetooth 4.0. This chip gives X5Max the capability to be used as Personal Hotspot and also supports FM. Unfortunately FM is disabled in X5Max.

                        4) Qualcomm WTR1605L: It is the transceiver chip in X5Max. As a modem it supports multiple bands from 2G / 3G / 4G. The "L" in WTR1605L denotes support for LTE. It also supports GPS.

                        5) RFMD RF7459A: A radio frequency power amplifier for 3G / 4G bands. Helps X5Max to catch signals even when the signal towers are far away. Helps to maintain decent signal strength.

                        6) Qualcomm PM8916: The power management chip of X5Max. This chip is in charge of proper battery power management be it charging or discharging. Additionally it also contains the Audio Codec (ADCs and DACs) for headphone audio playback, earpiece, microphones and speaker amplifiers. X5Max uses these audio codecs from PM8916 for audio playback when HiFi mode is OFF to save battery power.

                        7) NXP TFA9890A: Vivo X5Max uses this high quality discrete Class-D Audio Amplifier from NXP for its internal mono speaker. It provides way superior performance in both clarity and loudness than the in-built solution of PM8916.

                        8) ESS Sabre ES9018-K2M: This is an ultra high quality discrete stereo DAC used in X5Max. When HiFi mode is switched ON, this ES9018 is used for superlative digital-to-analog conversion and preserve high sound quality from Snap 615. When HiFi mode in switched OFF, the audio codec pack of PM8916 is used instead from Snap 615 to conserve battery.

                        9) ESS Sabre ES9601: An audio operational amplifier used for current-to-voltage conversion. High end DACs like ES9018 produces current while headphones operates on voltage, hence current to voltage conversion is performed with ES9601. This step is critical for audio quality and ES9018 + ES9601 does an astounding job to produce 122 dB of SNR. This amount of audio quality was previously unheard of in smartphones.

                        10) Texas Instuments OPA1612: A very high quality discrete headphone amplifier used with ES9018 + ES9601. Gives X5Max the audio lifeblood and power to drive any audiophile grade in-ear headphones. Delivers a richer and fuller audio experience over headphones.

                        So the audio chains of X5Max are as below:

                        HiFi Mode OFF: Snapdragon 615 -> PM8916 -> OPA1612 -> Headphone Out

                        HiFi Mode ON: Snapdragon 615 -> ES9018 -> ES9601 -> OPA1612 -> Headphone Out

                        11) Power supply to discrete audio chips: All the best audio DACs and headphone amplifiers will not produce great sound until they are properly fed. Thus the importance of quality power supply becomes very important in audiophile centric smartphones like X5Max. As such X5Max sports a dedicated secondary power supply to provide pristine and clear power from the battery without any ripples or jitters to the audio chips. A discrete DC-DC Charge Pump along with two low dropout (LDO) linear regulators are used to provide ample power to ES9018, ES9601 and OPA1612 to operate at their full potential and provide amazing sound quality and loudness.

                        Some other notable hardware components used in X5max:

                        1) Samsung Super AMOLED Display, 5.5 inches supporting 1080p resolution. The entire display unit of X5max is at 1.36 mm thick, the slimmest screen in the world.

                        2) The main rear camera uses high quality Sony Exmor RS IMX214 sensor. It is a stacked CMOS image sensor of 13 MP with pixel size of 1.12 um. IMX214 supports Phase Detection Auto Focus (PDAF) and HDR mode. In X5Max, Vivo uses six lens (6P) configurations, one more than the standard 5P for better optical images. Focal length is a wide aperture F 2.0. Finally X5Max uses an additional sapphire protection lens cover which protects against scratches.

                        3) The international version of X5Max comes with a 2300 mAh Lithium Polymer battery from ATL.

                        4) X5Max have the following in-built sensors: Gesture sensor, Light sensor, Proximity sensor, Accelerometer, Electronic compass, Gyroscope

                        Hope this helps!!!

                          AnonD-340338, 11 Mar 2015yes ,it will be heated when this phone is used up to 30minu... moreVivo X5Max like every other smartphone does tends to heat up while playing very heavy games for extended periods of time. Like I once played Asphalt 8 for 45 mins or so and it got really hot, but it never reaches unbearable levels.

                          It is to note X5Max comes with Qualcomm Snapdragon 615 octa-core chipset which is notorious for heating. But hats-off to Vivo in fine tuning this chipset for the thinnest smartphone in the world, X5Max. The international version of X5Max is just 5.1mm thick, so optimal heat dissipation is always going to be a concern for such a thin device. It is for these reasons I believe Vivo under clocked the Snapdragon 615 where the main cluster of four Cortex-A53 cores runs at a lower 1.5 GHz rather than the usual 1.7 GHz. So less heat is generated even in the expense of some top performance. The second cluster of four Cortex-A53 cores runs at usual specified 1.0 GHz frequency. The GPU here is Adreno 405 which does a good job in games.

                          I have seen X5Max dismantling videos on YouTube, and let me tell you the motherboard inside are meticulously built with quality components & construction. The Snapdragon 615 resides very near the volume rocker and power button area of X5Max and hence this is the region where heat is generated the most. But Vivo have gone to great lengths to perform uniform heat dissipation on X5Max by first applying thermal paste over the Snapdragon 615 chip and then additionally use graphite sheets on the inside of its metal back cover to uniformly dissipate the heat. The all metal build of the phone also aids in excellent heat dissipation from the Snap 615, as the entire metal chassis and back cover absorbs heat from the CPU keeping it cool.

                          Such good thermal management on X5Max pays huge dividends as the Snapdragon 615 can work under its normal working temperatures with all cores enabled and does not need to throttle or shut down some of its cores to curb heat. If a chipset starts to throttle due to extreme heat there will be severe performance drops. As an example of ill managed heat management look no further than the recent Motorola Moto G4 Plus where the Snapdragon 617 (same as Snapdragon 615) keeps throttling under extreme heat generated at 50 degrees after just 10 mins of video recording and then shuts down six of its cores to save itself. So you get a G4 Plus which becomes a dual core Snapdragon 617 under heavy use.

                          Coming to software optimization on X5Max, the entire Funtouch OS 2.0 is build to conserve energy. Starting from black background themes to save display consumption, it has many nifty ways designed to it to save battery. Let's be frank, we do need all the computing power from all the eight CPU cores and GPU of Snapdragon 615 under normal usage. So Vivo have this default app called "i Manager" which manages the phone as a whole. Mind you X5Max comes with a 1080p display, so it stresses the Snapdragon 615 a lot when playing very heavy games like Asphalt 8 with high display quality settings enabled in the game. I play like this so before loading the game I go to:

                          i Manager -> Select "Power Manager" -> Select "CPU Mode" -> Select "Top speed mode"

                          By enabling this mode I get full power of Snapdragon 615 under my disposal. And then Asphalt 8 even under 1080p resolution with high display quality settings enabled runs butter smooth with no frame drops!!! It is to note prior I had some issues with dropped frames in games with X5Max, but with latest OTA software updates (latest being PD1408F_EX_A_1.20.26 as of today) all the frame drop issues are resolved. So to me X5Max can now play all the heavy games you can through at it with high display quality settings enabled. It does not get overly heated even under prolonged gaming.

                          Hope it helps!!!

                            Anonymous, 25 Mar 2015vivo belongs to which country? How is this brand?is this a ... moreVivo is a Chinese smartphone company, just like Oppo and OnePlus. All these three brands have one thing in common; they all belong to the same parent company BBK Electronics of China. They are just a few years old and share some similar traits like exemplary built quality while providing awesome in-hand feel. Currently BBK follows different marketing strategies for their brands. While OnePlus is only available online and is more reasonably priced, Oppo & Vivo is projected offline through retail chains. BBK wants to market their Vivo & Oppo as premium brands so the quoted price is always very high. Currently they are not geographically available in all parts of the world. Luckily in India we have presence from all these three brands.

                            From a technical standpoint BBK have made clear differentiation between all its brands, Vivo is targeted to audio aficionados like me while Oppo is for those who give camera performance the top priority. OnePlus on the other hand makes very well balanced handsets at a reasonable price, but they are jack of all trades but master of none.
                            I have used quite a few Vivo phones. I have experiences with their flagships like X5Max, X5Pro, XShot & X3S. I have used their midrange devices like V3Max, V1Max & V1. I also have one of their budget phones Y27L. The reason to buy so many of their Vivo handsets is they produce very good to extra-ordinary sound quality over headphones depending on which model. I also own an F1 Plus which is Oppo's current flagship in India. Previously I used to have an OnePlus 2. To me the most defining and technologically innovative brand among these three is Vivo and also it is BBKs top brand. Vivo flagships like X5Max will provide unheard sound quality over headphones (for smartphones that is), exemplary build quality, display quality, and camera quality equivalent to a OnePlus device.

                            Lastly I will say Vivo, Oppo & OnePlus creates phones of international standards and can readily go head to head with Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony, and others. Take the example of Vivo Xplay5 Elite and Samsung S7 Edge.

                              chandu, 03 Jan 2015but no gorilla glass Yeah, I also had same confusion. It is nowhere mentioned in their official website about Corning Gorilla Glass display protection on Vivo X5Max. At last I went to the Vivo official forums to inquire this and guess what X5Max does actually comes with Corning Gorilla Glass 3 display protection!!!

                              This was a very satisfying response from the forum moderators as I use the smartphone day in day out. And I can personally confirm there are no scratches on my X5Max display after months of heavy duty use. :)

                                AnonD-142922, 31 Jan 2015Does LTE works in EU ? What FDD bands it supports? Can yo... moreThe network capabilities of my Vivo X5Max (International version and India bound):

                                2G capabilities: GSM 850; GSM 900; GSM 1800; GSM 1900
                                3G capabilities : UMTS 2100 (Band 1); UMTS 850 (Band 5); UMTS 900 (Band 8)
                                4G capabilities : FDD-LTE 1800 (Band 3); TDD-LTE 2300 (Band 40)

                                In our country it supports all available 2G & 3G network bands. For 4G it supports the most popular FDD-LTE 1800 followed by TDD-LTE 2300. Only FDD-LTE 850 is not supported but is hardly used by any network provider in my region or even India as a whole. Network reception is fantastic with this phone.

                                This smartphone sports a hybrid dual SIM slot, so you can replace the second sim with a 128 GB microSD card but you cannot use both SIMs with memory card. X5Max have the best display quality compared to all other Vivo flagship X-series i have experienced. Its 5.5 inch 1080p Samsung Super AMOLED display is unparalleled by X5Pro, XShot or even X3S. Even the recently released Vivo V3Max with IPS display is nowhere close.

                                  AnonD-265900, 10 Dec 2014Not bad 2 SD card slot up to 32GB Wow! But 4.5mm that to mu... moreWell the global version of Vivo X5Max have 16GB internal memory. Additionally it sports a hybrid dual SIM slot, so you can replace the second sim with a 128 GB microSD card. Total memory is 16 + 128 =144 GB out of which around 140 GB will be variable to the user. Over 100 gigs of memory lets me store hi-res audio FLAC files for listening. This smartphone is an audio nirvana, the best I have ever heard.

                                  Regarding the thickness the global version is thicker at 5.1mm and sports a bigger battery at 2300 mAh.

                                    Akma Din, 17 Jun 2016I just got my vivo x5max a few months ago.. I do agree it h... moreWhich version of Vivo X5Max are you using?

                                    The Chinese version is just 4.8 mm thick and was primarily made to compete for the slimmest smartphone of the world award. It eventually own this award over Oppo R5 with 4.9 mm thickness. Both these models comes with a 2000 mAh battery. Mind you both Oppo & Vivo are owned by the same company, BBK Electronics of China.

                                    It is true that for a 1080p screen with octa core Snapdragon 615 processor 2000 mAh is just not enough. So the global version of X5Max had a more sane approach with increased battery capacity to 2300 mAh thus growing thicker by 0.3 mm to 5.1 mm. And Vivo went to great lengths to optimize their Funtouch OS for efficiency gains and using a new black background theme over the usual white one to limit battery drainage from display. Thus GSMArena after review gives the global X5Max an endurance rating of 71 hours where as the R5 could just cough up measly 38 hours. It speaks volumes of how well optimized the software part of the X5Max is in comparison to R5.

                                    The global version of X5Max can very well last for a normal day of usage. But you have to be a bit calculative on how many of its "Smart Features" you want to use and disable the rest. These additional "Smart Features" of Funtouch OS drains a lot of battery even if the smartphone is not used.

                                    Some tips:

                                    1) I use "Smart Awake" feature only to play & change music. So I disabled it for Facebook, Whatsapp, dialer, browser, email, display unlock & take a photo actions.

                                    2) Disable all "Air Operations" if you do not require it. Enabling this smart operations causes the front camera to be always stay "ON" to track our gestures like waving our hand for Air Unlock. This operations drains a lot of battery power.

                                    3) Disable as many "Smart Call" operations as you can. For me it is completely disabled.

                                    4) Disable as many "Smart Light" operations as you can. For me only the "Double click to light" operation is enabled.

                                    Mind you these are additional operations provided by Vivo for added convenience and you can very well do without it. As such my daily driver X5Max now very well lasts for a full day of normal usage.

                                    Hope this helps. :)

                                      Artanis, 06 Jun 2016The thinnest phone on the market at 4.75 millimeter.Correction
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                                      The Global/ International version of Vivo X5Max that GSMArena reviewed here is of 5.1mm thickness as it comes with a bigger 2300 mAh battery. The Chinese version was of 4.75 mm thickness and had a smaller 2000 mAh battery.

                                        Akma Din, 17 Jun 2016I just got my vivo x5max a few months ago.. I do agree it h... moreWhich version of Vivo X5Max are you using? The Chinese version is just 4.8 mm thick and was primarily made to compete for the slimmest smartphone of the world award. It eventually own this award over Oppo R5 with 4.9 mm thickness. Both these models comes with a 2000 mAh battery. Mind you both Oppo & Vivo are owned by the same company, BBK Electronics of China.

                                        It is true that for a 1080p screen with octa core Snapdragon 615 processor 2000 mAh is just not enough. So the global version of X5Max had a more sane approach with increased battery capacity to 2300 mAh thus growing thicker by 0.3 mm to 5.1 mm. And Vivo went to great lengths to optimize their Funtouch OS for efficiency gains and using a new black background theme over the usual white one to limit battery drainage from display. Thus GSMArena after review gives the global X5Max an endurance rating of 71 hours where as the R5 could just cough up measly 38 hours. It speaks volumes of how well optimized the software part of the X5Max is in comparison to R5.

                                        The global version of X5Max can very well last for a normal day of usage. But you have to be a bit calculative on how many of its "Smart Features" you want to use and disable the rest. These additional "Smart Features" of Funtouch OS drains a lot of battery even if the smartphone is not used.

                                        Some tips:

                                        1) I use "Smart Awake" feature only to play & change music. So I disabled it for Facebook, Whatsapp, dialer, browser, email, display unlock & take a photo actions.

                                        2) Disable all "Air Operations" if you do not require it. Enabling this smart operations causes the front camera to be always stay "ON" to track our gestures like waving our hand for Air Unlock. This operations drains a lot of battery power.

                                        3) Disable as many "Smart Call" operations as you can. For me it is completely disabled.

                                        4) Disable as many "Smart Light" operations as you can. For me only the "Double click to light" operation is enabled.

                                        Mind you these are additional operations provided by Vivo for added convenience and you can very well do without it. As such my daily driver X5Max now very well lasts for a full day of normal usage.

                                        Hope this helps. :)

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