Xiaomi Redmi Note 9 Pro 5G
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- Anonymous
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- 28 Nov 2020
xdss, 27 Nov 2020will this release globally ? I this'll be china only
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- Anonymous
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- 28 Nov 2020
Successor OF MI 10 T LITE
- joe nodden
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- 28 Nov 2020
Sage NB, 27 Nov 2020Two years ago a depth sensor was a selling point for flagsh... moreRead the other two replies from other people more intelligent than you. You're alone in your thinking. Give up.
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- Sarwar
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- 28 Nov 2020
Gemini 13, 28 Nov 2020Note 9 Pro 5G has 108MP main camera and the Mi 10T Lite has 64MPI need this phone xiaomi redmi note 9 pro 5G
Now I'm in Saudi Arabia
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- Gemini 13
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- 28 Nov 2020
Anonymous, 27 Nov 2020Mi 10T Pro Lite?Note 9 Pro 5G has 108MP main camera and the Mi 10T Lite has 64MP
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- Hard gainer
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- 27 Nov 2020
Great mobile great specs 108mp camera and 5g connectivity and a 120 hz panel in around 200 euros is future
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- Anonymous
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- 27 Nov 2020
Mi 10T Pro Lite?
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- Anonymous
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- 27 Nov 2020
WTF Xiaomi. You just made 3 phones with the Redmi Note 9 Pro now.
So we now have:
Redmi Note 9 Pro India =basically a Redmi Note 9S, indian exclusive
Redmi Note 9 Pro Global=basically a Redmi Note 9 Pro Max India, Global Exclusive
Redmi Note 9 Pro 5G = A Poco F2 Pro with better camera but Upper Midrange Processor instead of Flagship. China Exclusive
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- Lan
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- 27 Nov 2020
At least they put dual pixel pdaf and eis in there
- NeonHD
- gmF
- 27 Nov 2020
Sage NB, 27 Nov 2020If you're used to bullying people online claiming to k... moreJust to interject here, I'm not sure if you are aware that the depth sensor on this phone is located on the back, rather than on the front.
You mention the iPhone's depth sensor, but that is an entirely different context. The iPhone's "TrueDepth" sensor is situated on the front (not on the back), and its primary function is mostly for Apple's FaceID unlock; it's secondary use is for giving selfies a depth-of-field.
Therefore, the depth sensor on the iPhone shares a codependent relationship with the FaceID unlock feature (i.e. FaceID depends on the hardware. Without it, it cannot function properly). The same cannot be said with its secondary function, as the phone and all its fundamental features are still working properly without the added blur in portrait photos.
This is not to say that the depth sensor on the Note 9 Pro is useless, but without or without it, the average user won't likely care that much. And it's only located on the back, which makes it unsuitable for selfies (another factor that makes the sensor fruitless on this particular phone).
As harsh as he might be sometimes, Joe's point was that Google and other companies have relied on software to achieve the exact same thing that the hardware (depth sensor) can do. I mean, we are just talking about a simple blur effect, it's not hard to do with software processing. They could've just implemented an advanced software algorithm to separate the foreground from the background, and added a blur effect that realistically mimics the lens-type blur. But no, they didn't. Instead they chose the hardware option. So having said that, it really seems that Xiaomi's addition of a hardware depth sensor was more of a marketing stunt than anything.
One might think that it would be unfair to criticize Xiaomi given that this is a 200 Euro phone, but one also needs to take in consideration that Xiaomi isn't really the most "rational" of all OEMs. Their approach is solely driven by profit, even if the difference in profit is miniscule. Truthfully, many OEMs are becoming less rational over the years, but Xiaomi excels at it.
So ultimately, I side with Joe here (and the anon comment below). My criticism really has nothing to do with their product as a consumer. Their product is great obviously for the price. I just don't agree with their decision-making processes. I believe Occam's Razor (aka law of parsimony) is a better tool for decision-making than calculating profit margins (this mostly just applies to hardware components). Sticking to the law of parsimony is not only logical, but is also naturally cost-effective.
I mean, I could also talk about the potential long-term environmental impact of increasing the demand for hardware components that aren't entirely necessary, but I think I've already expressed my point enough. Anyway these are just my thoughts.
P.S. My point is generalizable to many other contexts other than this phone.
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- Mario
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- 27 Nov 2020
Hi Xiaomi, please don’t make phones too heavy weight, produces below 200g is exciting usage.
- NeonHD
- gmF
- 27 Nov 2020
Anonymous, 27 Nov 2020You are right in every single point of yours.. The other pe... moreI second this as well.
Naturally, technology should ideally follow under the principle of Occam's razor, which states that "entities should not be multiplied without necessity".
One does not need a fork and a spoon to eat sushi when you already have chopsticks. So you can eliminate the fork and the spoon (hence the 'Razor' part). Same thing with the number of cameras on a smartphone. When software post-processing is advanced enough to reproduce (or emulate) a depth of field in photos, there is no need for an extra hardware component to achieve the same thing. So 'shaving' the depth sensor off is the most logical thing to do.
But of course, businesses do not always act rationally. They act in accordance to whatever makes them the most profit. And if there is just the slightest chance that adding a fourth "camera" will earn more profit, they will do it.
Hence, Xiaomi really did do this for the big marketing claims.
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- Anonymous
- pI%
- 27 Nov 2020
Too good to be true!
If the price will be near 200 euros it will be best phone with dual-frequency GPS.
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- Anonymous
- 7kp
- 27 Nov 2020
joe nodden, 27 Nov 20201) No no no you're not a pushover, you're a stubb... moreYou are right in every single point of yours.. The other person is just trying to win the fight with his nonsense arguments...
These companies just want to include more cam to label their phones as quad camera, triple camera smartphone, sometimes as 6 camera smartphone like in Realme 6 Pro (4+2), they don't care if second selfie is worth it or too ugly to look at when using the smartphone, or the useless 2mp macro or depth sensors that can be replaced with ultrawide for macro and telephoto for the same job what depth sensor is doing..
An ideal smartphone that's no Marketing gimmick needs only one selfie, and 3 rear quality cameras (64 or 108mp wide(MP of main cam doesn't matter, it should have large sensor size and big pixel size more than 2um for best and top-class flagship photos), ultrawide at least 12mp, telephoto at least 12mp) and there could be an optional ToF sensor as 4th rear cam for even better portraits and depth of field... There's no need of 2mp macro and depth shits..
I would buy triple rear cam phone over quad cam, penta cam, hexa cam, deca cam at rear if all three sensors are of quality.. I dont need more than those 3 cams and no other sane photographer or consumer neither needs more than those basic and important 3 rear cams(wide,ultrawide, telephoto) cams.. But your point is right normal public fall for such shitty marketing gimmicks by this shitty companies.. They are not stupid, they are innocent and fall in the trap of these companies
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- Anonymous
- MVy
- 27 Nov 2020
Is there really a hybrid sim + microsd slot?
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- DJ
- a3A
- 27 Nov 2020
I hope to see touch sensing in phone information too. please add it to all of them. Thank you
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- Sage NB
- rjj
- 27 Nov 2020
Qais, 26 Nov 2020Front camera is Only 16MP ?Iphone 12 pro max has 12MP selfie which is probably better than this 16MP but it's still ok for this mid-range
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- AnonF-964910
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- 27 Nov 2020
Qais, 26 Nov 2020Front camera is Only 16MP ?all you really need for selfies
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- Anonymous
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- 27 Nov 2020
Qais, 26 Nov 2020Front camera is Only 16MP ?In that price range 16 mp is more than sufficient.