Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 reference hardware kits go on sale

23 November, 2014
The tablet and the smartphone reference platforms are offered by the Canadian company Intrinsyc.

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  • 25 Nov 2014

AnonD-335213, 25 Nov 2014"Go and read the reviews about the note 3 or "4&q... moreDid you notice that the comment was "before" you copy pasted the whole review? Anyway you are free to not read Anandtech if you find it so biased. Best of luck.

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    • Anonymous
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    • 25 Nov 2014

    AnonD-335213, 25 Nov 2014"The Galaxy Note 4 builds on the Galaxy S5 and Galaxy ... moreIf you mean iphone review doesn't compare against note 4 while the other does.. You do realize that the iphone 6plus review was done "before" note 4 launch as it is mentioned in the last para?

    As for the note 4 this covers most of it:
    http://m.gsmarena.com/iphone_6_plus_vs_galaxy_note_4-review-1161p11.php
    (except touchwiz.. Which anandtech says is definitely way more functional than apple just lacking a bit in polish..
    And read the in detail part of display and it has only great things of how good a job samsung has done..)

    Personally I read it pretty much saying only great things about note 4 (but i guess if you gonna look at it negatively it will seem negative anyway)

    As for Anand Shimpi going to Apple.. I don't see any hidden agenda in that and neither does gsmarena it seems:
    http://blog.gsmarena.com/anandtech-founder-anand-shimpi-joins-apple/

    Anyway you are free to have your opinion and not read anandtech. And if you are not a fanboy then great.. Sorry for calling you one.. Anyway have a great day..

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      • 25 Nov 2014

      Anonymous, 25 Nov 2014Also I called you a fanboy because of your comment regardin... more"Go and read the reviews about the note 3 or "4" which i definitely rember getting great reviews there (cos i was considering those as an upgrade for my s4).."

      review of the Note 4? What in the world are you talking about? Haven't you notice the quotes I showed you? Now I begin to feel something here… next-time you reply if you do anyway, will you please, use a proofing tool?…, so that the world may be able to understand you better?

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        • 25 Nov 2014

        Anonymous, 25 Nov 2014Also I called you a fanboy because of your comment regardin... more"for most part they don't differ much in their conclusions wether it is an apple device or android.."
        hmmm… by-the-way, fanboy still? Do you know that Anand was kidnaped OH! I mean, is now working with Apple? Fanboy still?, am I not just stating facts here?

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          • 25 Nov 2014

          Anonymous, 25 Nov 2014Guess you completely forgot what the discussion was about? ... more"The Galaxy Note 4 builds on the Galaxy S5 and Galaxy S5 LTE-A, but there’s still a lot to go over. We’ll break this down by section before coming to any real conclusions about this device. Based upon my time with the Galaxy Note 4, it’s clear to me that the most critical point of differentiation in the Galaxy Note 4 is the software experience. While other phones with TouchWiz can have similar features, it’s really a function of the hardware and additional feature support that comes with the Note 4 that makes the Galaxy Note more than just a big phone. The good news here is that Samsung continues to have a lot of great ideas in software, and many of the features tend to be quite helpful in nature. However, there’s a need to polish these features as the implementation tends to be rough around the edges. Overall, one shouldn’t have any significant issues with the software but Apple definitely has an edge in the polish department, even if the functionality isn’t as extensive.

          The next key distinction is the display. The Galaxy Note is differentiated by its software, but defined by its display. It’s definitely big, and should be great for media consumption with its high contrast. More importantly, Samsung has continued to push better display calibration, brightness, and other areas where AMOLED was previously deficient. While there are still some issues with purple smearing and green tints to some level of grayscale, the AMOLED display is an equal to the 1080p display in the iPhone 6 Plus.
          While the display defines the Galaxy Note 4 as a phablet, the design of the device itself is also important. To this end, Samsung has finally delivered a phone that feels as premium as its competition. While I do have some minor nitpicks regarding the design, on the whole it really is good enough that I don't have any real complaints. There are definitely phones and phablets out there that look and feel better, but the gap isn't large enough that it would count against the Note 4. The move to a unibody design would also mean that there wouldn't be a removable battery or microSD slot, which likely isn't worth the cost to Samsung in key markets like Korea that have a great need for both of those features.
          While not quite as defining as the display, battery life is often one of the main draws of a larger phone. In this department, the Galaxy Note 4 does provide a level of improvement when compared to the Galaxy S5, but the higher resolution of the display means that battery life will slightly trail behind the iPhone 6 Plus. Despite this, no one should really have any issues getting a full day of use out of the Note 4. The adaptive fast charger also means that the Note 4 should be able to have better real-world battery life in scenarios where charge time is critical.
          Finally, while unrelated to the formfactor itself, the Galaxy Note 4’s OIS has significant implications for low light performance and video quality. In practice Samsung’s OIS solution has a large accommodation angle and works well, although the use of OIS is closer to continuous rather in limited situations like on the iPhone 6 Plus. The use of OIS also makes it possible to go from the rather poor low light experience that we saw with the Galaxy S5 to a competitive one in the Note 4. While it isn't quite as good as the iPhone 6 Plus in low light, it makes up for it with higher resolution for daytime photography and similar situations where the 1.1 micron pixels aren't really a limitation.

          We can talk more about the SoC performance, but at this point Snapdragon 805 is a known quantity. Instead, it's more important to talk about the Galaxy Note 4 as a whole, and on the whole Samsung continues to define the phablet segment with their features. For that alone, Samsung deserves praise as they continue to innovate in this space. If this innovation was also implemented with high levels of polish, I would have little issue calling the Galaxy Note 4 the best phablet on the market. As-is, the Galaxy Note 4 remains one of the best phablets on the market, but whether it's the best for a given user is a matter of priorities and personal preference rather than any absolutes."

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          "I started this review by listing the differences that the iPhone 6 Plus has when compared to the iPhone 6, and those are really the key points so it's worth going over again. I'm starting to sound like a broken record on this, but for the areas shared with the iPhone 6 it's critical to go back to the iPhone 6 review to understand things like the A8 SoC, performance, and display.
          The first key point is the display size. This is fundamentally the most important difference between the iPhone 6 Plus and iPhone 6. While there are other differences, none of them matter when compared to size. I personally found the iPhone 6 to be right around the ideal balance between screen size and one-handed usability. If you're looking for that combination, then the iPhone 6 is really the better choice, even if it doesn't get everything that the iPhone 6 Plus has. However, those that don't care about using their phone with one hand on a regular basis may find the iPhone 6 Plus starts to be a much more appealing choice.
          There are really a few key advantages of the iPhone 6 Plus over the iPhone 6 once the size issue is settled. The first is the camera. While rarely active, optical image stabilization has made it possible to achieve far better photos in almost any situation where longer shutter speeds can be used. Apple has really made it painless to take long exposures, as even a quarter of a second doesn't incur significant motion blur due to the multiple exposures combined for each photo. Even though this seems to be the only application of OIS, Apple has managed to make the overall camera experience better in a way that no other OEM has.

          The next advantage is battery life. While the iPhone 6 has competitive battery life, the iPhone 6 Plus manages to extend Apple's lead while also maintaining the same thin and light profile that we see on the iPhone 6. The difference in battery life can be quite significant, especially in compute-bound cases where battery life scales mostly linearly with battery size.

          The final advantage is resolution. While the iPhone 6 Plus does have a bigger display and all the advantages that come with the bigger screen, Apple has also provided an even higher pixel density than before with the iPhone 6 Plus. It's certainly not as incredibly high as what we see in phones like the LG G3, but the improved pixel density is clearly visible. There are performance trade-offs in GPU-based benchmarks, but otherwise Apple has managed to make this bump in resolution compromise-free. I definitely notice the improved resolution, but this is a mostly subjective area that requires personal experience to judge whether the higher resolution has value.

          Overall, the iPhone 6 Plus is a great phone that builds on the foundation of the iPhone 6. Whether it's right for you will be based primarily on whether you want the larger display or not. Once again, it's pretty easy to see the strength of Apple's integrated hardware and software approach as it's only a matter of time before most applications take advantage of the iPhone 6 Plus' additional screen size. However, comparisons between the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are mostly pointless as they fall into distinctly different categories with different target audiences. There's also relatively little value to testing the iPhone 6 Plus against the Note 3 as this would give the iPhone 6 Plus a massive lead due to differences in time of launch. The iPhone 6 Plus must be compared to the Galaxy Note 4, which looms large on the horizon as Samsung has consistently succeeded in holding on to their first-mover advantage in the phablet market. If you have to buy a phablet now though, the iPhone 6 Plus is the best one available."

          Now tell me AnandTech is fair. Were they just simply reviewing?, or selling the device.

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            • Anonymous
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            • 25 Nov 2014

            talks, 25 Nov 2014better review, REALLY?! if there is, even just a half-truth... moreAlso I called you a fanboy because of your comment regarding Anandtech.. It is one of the most reputed tech related sites around not only about mobile phones but pretty much everything about tech..
            Go and read the reviews about the note 3 or 4 which i definitely rember getting great reviews there (cos i was considering those as an upgrade for my s4).. I'm not going to sit around finding links for you though .

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              • 25 Nov 2014

              guy2, 24 Nov 2014Ha, ha. What's next in android phones? Looks like by 2020, ... moreAnd if so? What do you really think is wrong about that? isn't it that what you called, innovation?

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                • Anonymous
                • 2@t
                • 25 Nov 2014

                talks, 25 Nov 2014better review, REALLY?! if there is, even just a half-truth... moreGuess you completely forgot what the discussion was about? It wasn't about wether any iphone is better than any android phone.

                I ask you to compare iphone 5 against 5s cos the argument is that A7 (64bit) + 1gb ram (iphone 5s) being a gimmick with no benifits compared to A6 (32bit) + 1gb ram (iphone 5) because the ram remains at 1gb.. [You can use gsmarena review to compare them as anandtech is evil]
                I never said iphones were better (otherwise I would be using an iphone and not galaxy s4) but I won't blindly follow an anti apple agenda..

                You are free to live in your 'anadtech is biased' bubble.. But I follow gsmarena, anandtech and engadget for reviews and for most part they don't differ much in their conclusions wether it is an apple device or android..

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                  • 25 Nov 2014

                  Wiplive, 24 Nov 2014Well, it doesn't you need those 4 GB now, but later after e... moreFuture PROOF is what matters here. maybe next year, we will then see a 14NM true octa core clocked at 2.8 GHZ, 64-bit triple channel LP-DDR4 clocked at 1866 MHZ, with a GPU clocked at 1.1GHZ! would you agree? What is the matter of technological advancements with far-greater innovations to sirve mankind… well unless, you are somehow, envious…

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                    • 25 Nov 2014

                    AnonD-335213, 25 Nov 2014how can I edit my post? is this possible?why first 10 minutes only? can this be changed in the very near future?

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                      • 25 Nov 2014

                      talks, 25 Nov 2014better review, REALLY?! if there is, even just a half-truth... morehow can I edit my post? is this possible?

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                        • 25 Nov 2014

                        Anonymous, 24 Nov 2014Well since you are a fanboy in denial you can go ahead and ... morebetter review, REALLY?! if there is, even just a half-truth of your statement then, show me the link!, and post it here, so that me, and all others allover the world who are seeking the truth will find-out. if it is there, that's your problem, not mine. the burden of proof is in you! And about the iPhone 5/5s thing, why in the world you want me to check and most definitely, waste some of my most precious time reading more than a year old device? why not iPhone 6/6+, arn't you that confident of their capabilities? or, is this yet another ploy to possibly mislead the multitude of non-tech savvy readers, who put their trust in this website. and how about me accused of being a fanboy? are you certain of that? can you make of any, if there's even one, reference of me commenting anything apropos on this matter? well to tell you the truth, I have none… but; one thing for sure, I'd love to…! nextime, be careful of bluntly accusing someone of anything…, for you may unintentionally be, expose your true colour…

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                          • Anonymous
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                          • 25 Nov 2014

                          Anonymous, 25 Nov 2014The 5 was more stable. And it's everything combined causi... moreTell youself that all you like.. Sadly it will just remain your assumptions rather than hard evidence..

                          Also the encryption issue is going to effect "all" nexus 6 users unlike your claims because most probably google hasn't added the correct drivers for the snapdragon 805 crypto module. (and I gave it as an example to tell you that "IF" an apple fanboy did claim that it was an hardware issue it wouldn't be true.. Like the android fanboys claim about the A7/A8 gimmick)

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                            • Anonymous
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                            • 25 Nov 2014

                            Anonymous, 25 Nov 2014Yes.. 'iOS bugs' were causing the crashes. If it was relate... moreThe 5 was more stable.
                            And it's everything combined causing the crashes.
                            The bugs, the less ram "especially for older devices", the 64 bit on less ram, and despite what everyone believes the poor optimizing.
                            Deny all you like. They are not properly utilizing it.
                            The Exynos chip and then the s810 will much more properly utilize it.

                            An incription issue effecting a couple devices does not even come close to being comparable for an analogy.

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                              • 25 Nov 2014

                              AnonD-121678, 24 Nov 2014The price will come down when they start shipping to the ma... moreso i did. :)

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                                • 25 Nov 2014

                                Bye bye nexus 6 already xD

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                                  • Anonymous
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                                  • 25 Nov 2014

                                  Anonymous, 24 Nov 2014No. They were right. In the case of apple anyway. With IO... moreYes.. 'iOS bugs' were causing the crashes. If it was related to the A7 and its 1GB ram on iphone 5s then there was no reason for random app crashes and reboots on the A6 based iphone 5 running iOS 7 (which reportedly had more crashes than the 5s).

                                  So the software being buggy doesn't justify calling the hardware a gimmick. Just like you can't call the Snapdragon 805 cryptographic module a gimmick just cos the lollipop encryption performance issue (unless proven otherwise by substantial evidence rather than some apple fanboy claiming so..)

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                                    • 24 Nov 2014

                                    Anonymous, 24 Nov 2014It will be much more than that. But you're right....let's... moreHe is somewhat right. And I think he didn't mean 'just change to 2000 flip phones.' You misunderstood it. Well, you can do damn more thing in a 1 Ghz phone with 1GB RAM. Its the 'android' that is not so well optimized for the hardware. That's why, they are adding more and more RAM and cores to the cpu. Damnit just optimize the software.

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                                      • Anonymous
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                                      • 24 Nov 2014

                                      [deleted post]The bad thing is that's not only Apple that's better than Qualcomm, everybody is these days. If someone else was let to reign in the android market, maybe just maybe android wouldn't have such sucky socs. Exynos is better (40% better CPU), Mediatek is better (30% better cpu). Tegra is better (both cpu and gpu) ... you catch my drift, Qualcomm is slooow and makes android look bad. They have almost monopoly and keep the advancement of the platform back. Gods I'd wish that Qualcomm was not Google's anointed one...

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                                        • Anonymous
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                                        • 24 Nov 2014

                                        Muthu, 24 Nov 2014Not only that, Qualcomm sacked its CoE for calling 64-bit i... moreNo. They were right. In the case of apple anyway.
                                        With IOS and it's bugs and crashes and lacking of ram and then the soc needing more ram the a7/A8 are less stable than the a6.