Apple sold more than 61 million iPhones in Q2 2015
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AnonD-31288, 29 Apr 2015im one of the previous android users who switched to a ipho... moreim one of the previous iphone users who switched to a Samsung Galaxy S6 64 gb and i think ill never go back to iphone. my previous have been a iphone 5s was gonna buy a 6 or a 6 plus but finally thought those are useless and switched to a Samsung Galaxy S6 and its the best decision i ever made...LOL!
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- 01 May 2015
The NSA is ecstatic.
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- AnonD-31288
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- 29 Apr 2015
im one of the previous android users who switched to a iphone 6 64 gb and i think ill never go back to android. my previous have been a htc m8 was gonna buy a m9 or a galaxy s6 but finally thought those are useless and switched to a iphone 6 and its the best decision i ever made.
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- 29 Apr 2015
AdamBoy64, 29 Apr 2015Man, Apple just keep going from strength to strength. Cong... moreYep. And its absolutely hilarious to see the Android fanboys whining on Apple articles. Its gonna get a lot worse for these guys.
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- 29 Apr 2015
Tom-Helge, 29 Apr 2015You said: You obviously dont know what they were doing or y... moreYou are very confused. I will write simple words to make you understand.
Creation of a white-list to affect performance of the CPU is cheating.
You can write essays full of excuses but that does not change that simple fact.
And your comment that Anandtech does not know about hardware makes it very hard to take you seriously. Please come up with actual arguments, not subjective observations.
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- Tom-Helge
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- 29 Apr 2015
AnonD-341196, 29 Apr 2015You obviously dont know what they were doing or you are a p... moreYou said: You obviously dont know what they were doing or you are a paid samsung shill. In any case, let me educate you.
I say: I know exactly what they did. They did the same as every other benchmarks apps are supposed to do.
When you run a CPU benchmark, you will run it at full speed the whole time you run the benchmark. That's the whole point of benchmarking your device or computer to find out how powerfull it is.
Running the CPU at 50% and the GPU at 65% just to take an example isn't doing the job of telling us how powerfull our devices or computers is. So what's the point of doing a benchmark if it wont tell ut how powerfull our computers is?
Not only that, if you think a benchmarking app like Antutu are supposed to tell us how the real world usage is, you have OBVIOUSLY misunderstood what a benchmarking app is.
The only way you as a user can find out how the real world usage is on a phone or a tablet is to try the device out your self and find out, because what you define as real life usage might be completely different to what others might see as real world usage.
Benchmarking is benchmarking independent of which hardware or system they runs on.
You said: When you run a normal app in daily usage that requires 100% CPU usage, the CPU will slow down after a while to prevent overheating.
Samsung created a whitelist of benchmark apps that make the CPU run at full capacity regardless of heat, battery usage or any other parameters.
I say: Read my reply over. You simply don't know what a benchmark application is supposed to do. I do as i have been doing benchmarking on my computers since the stoneage.
You said: This is called cheating, pure and simple. You can make excuses all you want but doesnt change the facts.
I say: Then every other benchmarks like 3DMark, PCMark, Unigine Heaven Benchmark, Super Pi and so on for Windows are cheating to, because they runs at full speed all the time the benchmarking runs independent of how hot the CPU / GPU gets.
So get educated in how benchmarking is propperly done.
You said: Maybe you should lose respect for Samsung for cheating rather than Anandtech who exposed the truth.
I say: Again, sites like Anandtech and many others are heavily into revenue by clicks. They decided to create the article about Samsung just to gain more money. Because they KNEW very well that such an article would gain TONS of clicks.
TLDR: Anandtech did create that article either because they was in dire need of some money, or they simply don't know how the hardware on a computer or any other devices are operating while a brutal benchmark app runs on them.
You said: Oh and GPUs slow down if they reach their heat threshold running 3dmark or any 3d application. Hence that is not cheating.
I say: The hardware that is on the devices today are made to handle the heat they generates at full speed 24/7. The only reason they are speed throttling them is because of the complains that 'omg it's so hot' from the users. Yes, the devices can get really hot, but that alone doesn't say the hardware components can't handle the heat just because of that.
Do you care that your CPU and GPU on your computer gets extremely hot under a benchmark?
No you don't. And it's the same for smartphones. We don't care on how hot the smartphones gets under benchmarking, because benchmarking have a simple purpose of squeezing the most out of the hardware independent of how hot they get.
The thing that stops the overheating on computers is the safety settings in the motherboard BIOS that will shut the computer down if the CPU or even the GPU hits the max temprature it can handle before it starts to take damage.
And the CPU and GPU on the phones today are made to handle the heat they generates at full speed for a very very long time.
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- AdamBoy64
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- 29 Apr 2015
Man, Apple just keep going from strength to strength.
Congratulations to them.
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- 29 Apr 2015
Tom-Helge, 28 Apr 2015Again, it's not called cheating to run a benchmark app at t... moreYou obviously dont know what they were doing or you are a paid samsung shill. In any case, let me educate you.
When you run a normal app in daily usage that requires 100% CPU usage, the CPU will slow down after a while to prevent overheating.
Samsung created a whitelist of benchmark apps that make the CPU run at full capacity regardless of heat, battery usage or any other parameters.
This is called cheating, pure and simple. You can make excuses all you want but doesnt change the facts.
Maybe you should lose respect for Samsung for cheating rather than Anandtech who exposed the truth.
Oh and GPUs slow down if they reach their heat threshold running 3dmark or any 3d application. Hence that is not cheating.
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- 28 Apr 2015
AnonD-341196, 28 Apr 2015Anandtech is one of the most through and respected technolo... moreAgain, it's not called cheating to run a benchmark app at the default speed the phones comes out of the box with. Or do you say it's cheating to let 3DMark on a computer to run the GPU at full speed at the speeds it comes with?
So Samsung doesn't have to stop doing that as it's called optimization of their OS.
Doesn't matter how serious Anandtech is to you, but when they started to create articles about how bad Samsung was just because they was better at optimizing their software over others and then claim it's a cheat, that webpage lost all credibility. PERIOD.
Because you are far from being serious by doing that just to gain more revenue by more clicks. It's a lame tactic and everyone who does that will lose my respect.
I know there was other tech sites who was linking to Anandtech's lame excuse, so they are ofc not losing my respect as they was just linking to Anandtech's article about it. It's the main source that will get affected.
Did you see sites like GSMArena make any fuss about it?
Nah, they just linked to the source (Anandtech) about it to let peoples know.
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- 28 Apr 2015
Tom-Helge, 28 Apr 2015Anandtech made that topic about cheating in benchmarks to c... moreAnandtech is one of the most through and respected technology websites in the world. They don't need to create controversy to get visitors. As Futuremark confirms.
http://bgr.com/2013/11/27/samsung-benchmark-cheating-banned-htc/
They will be called cheaters until they grow up and own up to their mistake.
Second, as your own link said. Browser performance was HALVED. Thats not a small impact. That is pathetic for a 2015 flagship device.
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- 28 Apr 2015
AnonD-341196, 28 Apr 2015Yeah until there is instrumented testing, I will much rathe... moreAnandtech made that topic about cheating in benchmarks to create revenue by clicks.
There is no way to cheat by running a benchmark app at the max default speed the phones comes out of the box with.
The only differences is to how good each of the brands optimizes their OS'es to run on their hardware. And Samsung did a better and more genious way of doing that.
After that things, i lost all respect for Anandtech.
EDIT: Doesn't matter if the encryption is off or on on the Galaxy S6 as the performance have no differences (except for a little difference in the web browser) from having the encryption off or on.
The standard of having encryption on is on the hands of the customer to decide if they want to use it or not.
If they decide to use it, they will still have a Galaxy S6 that runs circles around the iPhone 6 / 6 Plus ANY DAYS which is my point.
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- 28 Apr 2015
Tom-Helge, 28 Apr 2015That's the only bad thing, but the rest are the same in spe... moreYeah until there is instrumented testing, I will much rather believe what Anandtech says over some forum post.
And the point still stands which is that you cant compare the S6 to the iphone 6 unless is confirms to established standards of encryption.
As for the rest of the benchmarks, we call know about Samsung.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/state-of-cheating-in-android-benchmarks
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- 28 Apr 2015
AnonD-341196, 28 Apr 2015From that very link
"The Browser speed has seemed t... moreThat's the only bad thing, but the rest are the same in speed.
Believe me, it doesn't takes many software updates to the S6 to fix that browser speed slowdown under encryption.
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- 28 Apr 2015
Tom-Helge, 28 Apr 2015Yeah, Google did build in touchscreen support in 2007, so w... moreFrom that very link
"The Browser speed has seemed to have halved once it was encrypted."
lol.
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- joe sHmoe
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- 28 Apr 2015
WOW! keep going you guys. hey tom watch your back man its 3 vs 1 with 2 different topics.
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- 28 Apr 2015
Tom-Helge, 28 Apr 2015You said: Actually the reason why i bought my first iPhone ... more"They use fancy and cute CGI's and cute words about how much time they have spent creating their products and almost no time used in explaining in their ads about what the smartwatch actually can do and how it works."
So you haven't seen the 3 new REAL ads which released just for the time when watch been actually released.
Those ads which you are talking are only one of the many ads for Apple, they does that with every their product and after that they release the real consumer friendly ads which shows what the device can do and how it can change your life.
Here are the TV ad's http://www.apple.com/watch/films/ they really nailed it!
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- 28 Apr 2015
AnonD-1825, 28 Apr 2015Actually the reason why i bought my first iPhone 2009 was t... moreYou said: Actually the reason why i bought my first iPhone 2009 was the reason it actually delivered those expectations from the ads. It worked just as good as in those great ads. The device in real life were fast and supersmooth like nothing else in the market.
I say. That was 6 years ago. Alot of things have changed sine then.
Did you see the main advertisement for the Apple Watch?
They did talk for ages about how beutiful their round corners are and how much effort they have used in crafting the sapphire glass on the screen and so on. There was pretty much no talks about the smartwatch itself on how it works and what it can do in their main ads about it.
They are advertising their products like it was some kind of a jewelry product and not like it is a smartwatch.
That's the thing here. They use fancy and cute CGI's and cute words about how much time they have spent creating their products and almost no time used in explaining in their ads about what the smartwatch actually can do and how it works.
So the question is then. Is the Apple Watch a fashion product, or is it a smartwatch that are supposed to act like a smartwatch?
You said: Clearly there isn't or why would android flagship owners switching to those new bigger iPhones. Clearly they aren't happy with their devices if they want to buy iPhone. Also its not all about device itself, it's the whole packet which matters.
I say: There are tons of other products that are both cheaper and better than an iPhone is. This have been the case for several years now. Everyone who doesn't see that needs to get out of the so called 'Apple-bubble' and make sure you can get out of the 'reality distortion field'.
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- Tom-Helge
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- 28 Apr 2015
AnonD-341196, 28 Apr 2015You obviously have trouble comprehending. Thats exactly wha... moreYeah, Google did build in touchscreen support in 2007, so why was you saying they didn't first implement it when that have no meaning to the discussion here?
And secondly. Yes, encryption is not activated by default on the Galaxy S6, but it doesn't makes any differences, or extremely little differences with the encryption on.
Just read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/impact-encryption-t3081728
The Galaxy S6 will still run circles around the iPhone 6 / 6 Plus in performance with encryption on.
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- 28 Apr 2015
Tom-Helge, 28 Apr 2015You said: Specs =/= performance son. Android is a Jana VM r... moreYou obviously have trouble comprehending. Thats exactly what I said. Google suddenly built in touch screen functionality into android but in their rush to bring Android to their market, it was absolute garbage until about kit kat or so.
As for the speed of the S6. You cant compare it to the iphone.
The iphone is fully encrypted out of the box while the S6 is not. Android OEM tried that with the nexus 6 and failed miserably.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/11/20/anandtech-posts-side-by-side-nand-performance-for-nexus-6-encrypted-vs-unencrypted-its-not-pretty/
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- Anonymous
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- 28 Apr 2015
Disgusting.