iPhone 6s: Samsung and TSMC A9 chips yield different battery life
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- AnonD-364786
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- 15 Oct 2015
AnonD-369311, 15 Oct 2015you probably still own a nokia 6110, you know nothing about... moreyeah .. i still don't know about how memory is managed in mobiles , just like samsung :P
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- AnonD-369311
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- 15 Oct 2015
AnonD-364786, 09 Oct 2015samsung manufacturing process is inferior when compared to ... moreyou probably still own a nokia 6110, you know nothing about phones these days boy
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- Anonymous
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- 12 Oct 2015
Anonymous, 11 Oct 2015in short, samsung is apples bitch! I think the more accurate phrase is Apple is Samsung's bitch, since Apple keeps crawling back to them.
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- 11 Oct 2015
in short, samsung is apples bitch!
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- Anonymous
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- 11 Oct 2015
AnonD-364786, 11 Oct 2015when i said capacity , it doesn't mean only AP.
only a st... morePray tell me, what exactly does Samsung Electronics manufacture other than semiconductor components and other electronic components like AMOLED displays, which are very expensive and high margin (Not many customers), which is why Apple opts to use cheaper and inferior technology from LG and Japan Display.
All of their phones are assembled by OTHER companies, so that doesn't count as their capacity.
Samsung has far lower capacity than TSMC. Samsung makes up for their lower capacity by superior quality.
No amount of crying from you is going to change that.
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- Anonymous
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- 11 Oct 2015
[deleted post]TSMC has a higher capacity than Samsung, as shown in my link. You have nothing but your unsubstantiated beliefs.
Samsung isn't low-cost. Their components are a lot more expensive than competitors, which is why they don't produce as many components as TSMC and why Apple doesn't use Samsung's AMOLED.
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- AnonD-364786
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- 11 Oct 2015
Anonymous, 11 Oct 2015Here's a link comparing AP fab capacity, where it shows TSM... morewhen i said capacity , it doesn't mean only AP.
only a stupid will think only AP constitutes all the chips in a mobile
checked you gave a totally irrelevant answer abt AP Fab capacity when we are talking about FAB capacity
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- AnonD-442781
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- 11 Oct 2015
Anonymous, 11 Oct 2015So TSMC makes better chips than Samesung. FreezeGame won't ... moreMakes you wonder why Qualcomm/OEMs were blamed for the SD810 and not tsmc.
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- 11 Oct 2015
So TSMC makes better chips than Samesung. FreezeGame won't like that!
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- Anonymous
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- 11 Oct 2015
Anonymous, 11 Oct 2015Here's a link comparing AP fab capacity, where it shows TSM... moreTSMC churns out 15,000,000+ 8-inch wafers in 1 year. They take the #1 spot in capacity.
GF, which is #2 on the list, churns out only 7 million.
Samsung isn't even #3 or #4 on that list.
Harmonica, just stop posting. You are clearly an Apple butt-kisser who makes things up to placate your pro-Apple delusions.
The fact is that Apple doesn't have many smart people, so they have Samsung and others do the harder things for them. Apple is nothing but a repackager. Truth hurts.
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- Anonymous
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- 11 Oct 2015
AnonD-364786, 10 Oct 2015one word: No
Do some research and reports are available ... moreHere's a link comparing AP fab capacity, where it shows TSMC's capacity dwarfs Samsung's capacity.
http://anysilicon.com/foundry-ranking-capacity-2013-2014/
Samsung's profits and revenues are higher, because Samsung is doing the harder fabs. Harder fabs = higher margins.
TSMC is mostly low-level with very high capacity.
I look forward to your damage control.
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- Anonymous
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- 11 Oct 2015
AnonD-364786, 10 Oct 2015one word: No
Do some research and reports are available ... moreThanks for confirming your ignorance.
You are looking at the entire semiconductor industry including memory fab, AP fab, storage fab, SSD fab, flash fab, and other semiconductor tech fab.
In all of the above categories except AP fab, Samsung is the undisputed world leader in technology and quality.
TSMC is strictly an AP fab with a few small specializations.
In terms of AP fab, TSMC has FAR more capacity than Samsung, but Samsung has better yields and better quality. That's why Samsung, with their smaller capacity, can still churn out 50% of the A9s while also fabbing their own processors and Qualcomm's processor.
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- 10 Oct 2015
Anonymous, 10 Oct 2015TSMC has a much bigger capacity than Samsung when it comes ... moreone word: No
Do some research and reports are available in the net.
You can easily find the revenues of both TSMC and samsung semiconductor division in net.
Do google if you know how to do it.
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- Anonymous
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- 10 Oct 2015
Lol, 10 Oct 2015It's a new process for TSMC, they couldn't made more than 6... moreHistorically, TSMC processes have always been inferior to Samsung's.
The SD 810 on TSMC's 20 nm node vs. Samsung's Exynos 5430 with Samsung's 20 nm node shows.
The only thing TSMC had over Samsung was capacity, since TSMC has been in the AP fab business for a very long time.
Samsung compensates for lower capacity through superior process resulting in superior yields and superior performance.
There is no statistically valid proof that Samsung's process is worse than TSMC's. Looking at historical data, it's more likely the reverse is true.
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- Anonymous
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- 10 Oct 2015
AnonD-364786, 10 Oct 2015when i said marketing helps , it doesn't mean that capacity... moreTSMC has a much bigger capacity than Samsung when it comes to AP fab.
Don't talk about topics beyond your grasp. It makes you look stupid.
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- Anonymous
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- 10 Oct 2015
Anonymous, 10 Oct 2015no i,m not.yes some times SD808 is better than sd808 "if" a... moreIntel fabs their own CPUs.
You don't know what you're talking about.
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- 10 Oct 2015
AnonD-364786, 10 Oct 2015when i said marketing helps , it doesn't mean that capacity... more"samsung manufacturing process is inferior when compared to TSMC and others..
only advantage samsung has is , its capacity and nothing else
same with their mobiles.. sony and etc got better phones , but samsung does ship more bcoz of capacity"
I think you need to think before you write, or maybe you need glasses, either way you should consult your doctor.
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- AnonD-364786
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- 10 Oct 2015
AnonD-416078, 09 Oct 2015Now you mention marketing, bravo, a good way to get out. I ... morewhen i said marketing helps , it doesn't mean that capacity doest help..
capacity , marketing and time to market ( time to copy ) helps samsung ..
also your reading skills are really laughable..
so now reconsider your thought and give a proper reply
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- 10 Oct 2015
AnonD-442781, 10 Oct 2015If that was the case Samsung wouldn't have made a whole 40-... moreIt's a new process for TSMC, they couldn't made more than 60% of the chips needed. Next year, yields have improved and TSMC will make all the A10s.
Why would Apple design an inferior chip for Samsung fab? It doesn't make any sense. Face it, Samsung's fab is just inferior and more leakier probably.
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- AnonD-442781
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- 10 Oct 2015
Lol, 10 Oct 2015Haha, you still don't get it? Apple only used Samsung and t... moreIf that was the case Samsung wouldn't have made a whole 40-60% of the chips.
Also both chips were designed by Apple, Samsung just manufactures them. There is no evidence that it is Samsung's fault and it could just as easily be due to Apple.