What could have been: Microsoft Lumia 2020, 650 XL, and Nokia XL 2 leaked
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- AnonD-556767
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- 03 Oct 2016
i used 3410.2600.7610.e63 and the lumia 830
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- Carol
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- 28 Jul 2016
AnonD-564674, 27 Jul 2016Good, here comes Nokia fanboy talking... I have owned seve... more:))). Still a lot sayd, but nothing that matters. Listen here: First read what people tell you, then come and contradict them! Just cause, you repeted your self on things i already prove you're wrong... Smartpants;). Why? Cause it does not matter how great they get.(ios, being already big enough to be a victim of so called atrackers;). But, as i already know you have no ideea what technology is, also what sandbox really means, i will give you a slap on the face. Windows mobile cannot be infected. Can be hacked yes, but not infected. Not by a normal user and a web browser, that is for sure. Smart brag! And as i've already said ALL can be hacked, talkong about imperfection... But, as i already said. Nobody wants to freaqing hack your crappy phone;). You ain't justin biver man! If you can't understand androids insecuriry then just take a note and write. An andoid device can be infected just by browsing, as a normal pc. Which, to tell you the truth. Is BAD man!!! Capici!? Talking about symbian? You think you had expensive phones with good cameras man? What the hack you talk about their man? Ever heard of the n82, n95, n8, 808, 1020? Get a life man. You talk about avarege camera phones not intended to be great in that departament. The sensor on them, tough, would have been a bit crappier without carl zeiss lenses, but you can't comprehend that. You're to smart;). And now let's go back to Symbian. The os Had very few viruses. And the browser could not infect them. Never! They could get in through sideloaded apps;). So, was still better then crapdroid when it comes to security. But why am i bothering? Stop reading technology man. It is not for you. Go do something else. Like hunt some pokemons;)
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- AnonD-564674
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- 27 Jul 2016
Carol, 27 Jul 2016A lot of words mister. But almost nothing to say;). I will ... moreGood, here comes Nokia fanboy talking...
I have owned several Nokia, from the s40 ones (Asha 200, 2600, 5610 XM, and S60 ones (3660, E65, N73) that's why I can PROUDLY said CARL ZEISS optics are GIMMICKS.
I have use it all for minimum 1 year, and ALL are EXPENSIVE CRAP, especially N73 with ur esteemed CARL ZEISS with their 'QUALITY PHOTOGRAPHY' trash.
FYI, up to date, u cannot get QUALITY PHOTOGRAPHY with camera phone, as camera in a phone is an additional feature, unlike DSLR or digital camera ones.
I know that WP and iOS are sandbox OS, but as I said before, BIG BOY will have their problem when they have big enough market, and the problem is not limited to VIRUS, WORM, TROJAN whatsoever. iOS counter is with voiding the warranty, Symbian counter it by not providing OTA system update, and so on. Even the prided XBox & PlayStation console can be hacked, given enough time, as well as WP IF they become big enough.
Again, my point is, ALL MAN-MADE system is imperfect, even the sandbox ones. MOREOVER, if MS success in making Universal App for all Windows gadget, their OS will be the main target of VIRUS, WORM, TROJAN, PHISING, RANSOMWARE and tons more, understand u SMART-ASS?
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- Carol
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- 27 Jul 2016
AnonD-564674, 27 Jul 2016LOL, afraid of the virus JUST because Android is the BIG BO... moreA lot of words mister. But almost nothing to say;). I will contradict you with two things cause i have no time for you but: Even if windows mobile will get untop of all systems, won't be infected, cause it can't. It is sandboxed OS. The only things viruses can infect in it are downloaded files. Though they won't infect your phone but could be a probability to infect your pc if pluged in through usb. Another way is hacking someone device. Well, that can heappen to the most secured servers in the world. I don't think somebody will ever bother, though, to hack you;). Carls zeiss is not a gimmick, but apparently you never took pictures with a Nokia to ever understand what quality of a photography means. I forgive you on that, not everybody has to know and see. Nokia phones are build with quality, from hardware to battery. Microphones, earpieces and overall hardware are way better then the ones on shamesung, apple sony, and i don't want to get down on crappy mi5 or oppro crappy boaut made things. You pay for a phone, not for a screen. And that is why, it costs more to build;). Nokia never dissapointed me when it comes to talking on their devices, reception and earpiece quality. Which is without doubt SUPERIOR! I don't want to get to camera departament, cause makes no sense to even compare them with others. I would like to slap another two or three things on you but well... It ain't worth it.
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- AnonD-564674
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- 27 Jul 2016
Anonymous, 26 Jul 2016Why windows as a OS for PC has so many viruses and other su... moreLOL, afraid of the virus JUST because Android is the BIG BOY now? Go buy Nokia 3310 then, you TROLL...
FYI, ALL the BIG BOYS (Windows PC, Android, Symbian, Linux, Apple) always have trouble after they have big enough market, and not just limited to virus; HACK, JAILBREAK, RANSOMWARE, PHISING, and many more...
You ridiculed Android for 'the numbers of users'. IF, and only IF, Windows success in turning the table and become a popular OS, what do u think will happen? TONS OF VIRUS, TONS OF RANSOMWARE, TONS OF PHISING ATTEMPT, and many more, and Andriod become less vulnerable cuz NO ONE cares about them anymore.
See the big picture? HUMAN, especially the evil ones, LIKES TO STIR or MESS something that they think are going to have BIG IMPACT, for VARIOUS REASONS: FAME, ATTENTION, MONEY, HATE, FANBOYISM, and so many more.
In essence, ALL MAN-MADE things ALWAYS IMPERFECT. U do know the reasons for virus to be able to success infiltrating the OS system, right? Yes, there will be FAULTS or HOLES in the system that allows VIRUS makers to exploit it.
Even Apple products is not an exception. Cuz they know there will ALWAYS a HOLE or FAULTS in their system, they prevent it by various attemp; VOID the warranty, give regular patches, and many more.
"who cares about reputation on company that makes android phones?"
HOW OLD ARE U, DUDE? throwing tantrum like a child by saying something like this.
I know and I believe u CARES about the reputation of the manufacturers, if not, u will buy cheap Android or WP phones. Here is the reason: WHY DO U INSIST IN BUYING OR USING NOKIA (MS) PRODUCTS WHEN THERE ARE TONS OF WP or ANDROID OUT THERE. Ur only reason is CUZ U CARES of the reputation of the company, therefore u BELIEVE that THEIR PRODUCTS WILL NOT DISAPPOINT.
You said u owned LUMIA 520 then LUMIA 830, why do u insist on buying Nokia (MS) products, while HP, Samsung, Toshiba, Acer, and TONS of manufacturers also release WP products? Cuz u believed that by using Nokia product which have exclusive partnership with MS at that time, IS MORE RELIABLE AND TRUSTWORTHY than any other brand, therefore proved that U CARE for the reputation of the company. When the fact that u CARE for reputation proved, THIS FACT ALSO APPLIES TO ANDROID THAT U OWNED.
'for what do you need that power for a flagship?'
HMM, how much do u pay for CRAPPY LUMIA 520 or LUMIA 830, huh?
What hardware specs do u get for that much money?
Lumia 520: 4inch 480p, 512MB RAM with SD 2core @ 1GHz, 5mp AF camera with 720p video recording, no LED FLASH, and no front camera, no compass & measly 1430mAh battery? Oh, come on. I bought Huawei W1 with BETTER specs with half the price of Lumia 520 at that time.
Lumia 830: 5inch HD with Gorilla Glass 3, 1GB RAM with SD 400 4core @1.2GHz, 10mp back camera with 1080p video recording and 0.9mp mp front camera, and 220mAh battery? With just US$160 at that time, u could get Redmi Note 4G, or Mi4 with 2GB RAM for US$270.
See the big picture? Nokia & MS ONLY give gimmicks, like Carl Zeiss optics, or Dolby audio to make u think the rig worth its price, while ALL THE SPECS in both Lumia 520 & 830 definitely not worth its price tag. When u question them about the difference in specs, and the EXPENSIVE price tag, they [probably] will say 'Hey, all the money u give us goes down to R&D of WP OS. If u don't like it, buy other vendor's WP, we won't give Windows upgrades to them, though'.
Just so u know, Nokia 808 PureView is a FLAGSHIP phone and use FLAGSHIP hardware, cuz CRAPPY HARDWARE like ur Lumia 830 won't get it working as CAMERA PHONE. Even Lumia 1020 have to compensate the CRAPPY HARDWARE by upped the RAM to 2GB to get it working as both CAMERA with phone, and PHONE with camera.
In short, U DO NEED FLAGSHIP-GRADE hardware to get certain functions works seamless, such as UI, CAMERA, VIDEO RENDERING, GPS, 3D-HEAVY GAMES, and many more.
' I still like to have that 2 level button for taking a picture cause taping on screen sucks with my shaky hands'
LOLOLOLOL, U ARE SUCKS AT TAKING PICS, BUT BLAME IT TO ANDROID CAMERA MECHANISM? GO BUY ANDROID PHONE WITH DEDICATED CAMERA BUTTON, THERE ARE LOTS OF IT
'I will never spend more then 300 euro for a phone. I just don't see the point to spend 800 euro for a phone then after 2 years when you get bored of the phone you buy new one with same amount of money'
Who said to spend 800 euro to get flagship grade phone? THERE ARE LOTS OF AFFORDABLE smartphone which have FLAGSHIP-grade Hardware & Quality. For 2016, u can get Mi5 starts from US$340 now, while in 2014 u could get Mi4 for US$270.
The point is, u are LACK OF RESPECT TO ASIAN MANUFACTURERS, especially Chinese ones. That's why u still decided the phone's worth by PRICE TAG, since Flagship WP from MS does indeed cost more that 500 euro.
'But when it comes to use then you use it mostly for making calls and answering phones or play games on it. I don't play games on my phone and I don't brows around web to cause I have PC at home that is for that.'
Okay, U only use phones for MAKING & ANSWERING CALLS, DON'T PLAY GAMES, and DON'T USE INTERNET SERVICE, therefore the reason why I said NOKIA 3310 is A PHONE JUST FOR U.
If 3310 is too old, then any NOKIA s40 is ur thing.
If u want smartphones ones, then Symbian is what u need, since FLAGSHIP Symbian phone like Nokia 808 PureView is still a great phone up to date, OR Nokia N9, the only Meego-powered smartphones Nokia ever released to public, which surprisingly, very good, both in buid quality & OS.
The last, my only advice for u is: STAY AWAY FROM MS PRODUCTS from now on. It's not too late, since MS is going to scrap WP, in favor of UNIVERSAL APPS SUPPORT WINDOWS MOBILE.
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- Anonymous
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- 26 Jul 2016
AnonD-553989, 26 Jul 2016Least secure.. Even if it is true, i dont care about that.... moreWhy windows as a OS for PC has so many viruses and other sucks things. It's cause of the numbers of users. Why do you think I have a nod32 on my tablet android ? Cause the number of android users is more then windows pc users and there for it's a freaking big market for virus and malware/spyware. And sorry who cares about reputation on company that makes android phones ? for what do you need that power for a flagship ? for making a call or browsing the internet ? I have no problems on my windows phone lumia 830 and had no problems before with my 520, I changed to 830 just to get better camera with flash. I still like to have that 2 level button for taking a picture cause taping on screen sucks with my shaky hands. Why do you even bother to read windows phone news if your so freaking fanboy of android ? Do google pay you to troll here ? I will never spend more then 300 euro for a phone. I just don't see the point to spend 800 euro for a phone then after 2 years when you get bored of the phone you buy new one with same amount of money. But when it comes to use then you use it mostly for making calls and answering phones or play games on it. I don't play games on my phone and I don't brows around web to cause I have PC at home that is for that.
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- 26 Jul 2016
Anonymous, 26 Jul 2016Everyone who knows the least bit of how Windows/iOS/Android... moreLeast secure..
Even if it is true, i dont care about that. Lol. I'm just a regular user, not working with government, and i'm not terorist. Android security is enough for me.
Android is opensource. Supported by many many geeks out there.
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- 26 Jul 2016
Anonymous, 26 Jul 2016Everyone who knows the least bit of how Windows/iOS/Android... moreThat is probably because you use cheap android phone from not_reputable company.
Buy the flagships from reputable company, then you will never face any issues.
And never use 3rd party launchers.
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- Anonymous
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- 26 Jul 2016
AnonD-564674, 26 Jul 2016LOL, what mix? Like Nokia did with X & X2? HELL NO...
... moreEveryone who knows the least bit of how Windows/iOS/Android work, still ridicule Android.
It's the least secure platform out of the three (now governments started ditching Android), it's the most unreliable one (apps force closing, launcher force closing, filesystem becomes a mess after a couple months of usage, needs weekly restarts, and factory resets every 6-8 months in order to still work like in its first days), performance-wise it's the worst you can get - put neck to neck with iOS/Windows devices it's always the slowest, the interface is clunky and disorganised (menus top, menus on bottom, menus with submenus, subsubmenus, subsubsubsubsubmenus etc.) even though Android copied Windows's flat UI design and called it "material design", it's still far from delivering a consistent experience and still looks like it's just a prototype UI design.
So yeah...
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- Anonymous
- KZJ
- 26 Jul 2016
Mehmet , 25 Jul 2016Oh come on don't you ever see a Lumia 1520 from its back th... moreI suspect that is either lumia 825 (in 2013 there was a rumor that nokia was developing it with 5.2-inch screen) or maybe prototype of lumia 950…
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- 26 Jul 2016
Drax, 25 Jul 2016Nokia's downfall began the day it appointed Stephen Elop, a... moreActually elop is just a pawn of the chess. The one manipulate this is actually steve ballmer who have a stupid dream to change microsoft to a hardware device maker. After the fail of kin, he arrange a series of plans and assign elop to complete the mission!
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- 26 Jul 2016
I wish Nokia would hoop up with Google to produce the Nexus phones. I think that would be a pretty good comeback.
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- 26 Jul 2016
Polen, 26 Jul 2016Nokia should manufacture a mix of Android and Windows phones. LOL, what mix? Like Nokia did with X & X2? HELL NO...
Microsoft MAIN advantage is their desktop OS. Since they failed to make developers interested in developing apps for WP, now their focus is shifted to how to turn the table of low apps available for WP by making a universal apps that can run in ALL Windows 10 version.
OFC, this is a great idea. To be able to play a desktop-grade game and run desktop-grade apps in ur small devices is like dream come true.
BUT, to be able to do this, an adequate hardware is a MUST requirement. When we talk about hardware, the ONLY hardware capable enough to handle such task is INTEL processors, moreover the HIGH PRICED ones,such as Intel Atom x5 & x7 series or Intel Core M series which both have NO CELLULAR CONNECTIVITY.
So, after all said and done, MS is likely to abandon WP10, and start formulating Windows 10 Mobile to be installed to Intel processor, and it will be tablet, not smartphone since the SDP is quite HIGH for smartphones to handle. Besides, smartphones with no cellular connectivity is not smartphone, but DUMBPHONE
Because of the fact that MS is going to abandon their WP10, Nokia now try to come back to smartphone world, using ANDROID POWER that once they ridiculed, along with MS & Apple.
Way to go, Nokia. Licking ur own spit on the ground, LOL
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- Phoenixx
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- 26 Jul 2016
Anonymous, 26 Jul 2016you don't need to worry, that dude Elop will be dying soon ... moreyes um agree with u. Nokia knows what customers want and if they can hit one or two android mobiles, they will rise again like a king as they were before!
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- Polen
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- 26 Jul 2016
Nokia should manufacture a mix of Android and Windows phones.
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- Anonymous
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- 26 Jul 2016
I love windows mobile run in Nokia Lumia, everything running so well. Lumia under Microsoft is definitely a crap. I would not buy Lumia with Microsoft anymore, can not wait for HP Elite.
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- 26 Jul 2016
Simon, 26 Jul 2016Unfortunately, majority of Nokia's tech and talent are no l... moreThanks for sharing that Simon. Lets hope that NOKIA who is still strong in there other avenues manages to eventually pull back a good team and reinspire us all. I am so glad Microsoft is gone for that devastating experience. may the phoenix rise
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- Aadrian
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- 26 Jul 2016
Microsoft never should have bought the Nokia Devices devision. You can't just buy a part of a well established brand and think it will be all the same by changing everything to Microsoft and don't do much afterwards. Windows Phone would have had 10% of market share if MS had stayed focusing on software and Nokia on the phones.
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- AnonD-563126
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- 26 Jul 2016
Nowadays, nobody care at Nokia at all, even if they made their comeback.. i think that will become a failure too.. i love Nokia absolutely. But i think returning in the market was not a good move.. this is not the Era of Nokia anymore.. :(
Apple & Samsung will continue to dominate us even the former King is back.
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- 26 Jul 2016
Drax, 25 Jul 2016Nokia's downfall began the day it appointed Stephen Elop, a... moreyeah true!!