Samsung and Qualcomm in talks over Snapdragon 845 for the Galaxy S9

24 April 2017
The next generation flagship chipset may or may not be built at Samsung's 10nm fabs.

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  • Anonymous
  • D%M
  • 24 Apr 2017

As always Samsung makes great hardware, but disappoints in optimization. Ars found the SD835-powered S8 is drops frames when scrolling apps, even at the lowest resolution. The Pixel does not stutter despite the "inferior" SD821.

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    • AnonD-663385
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    • 24 Apr 2017

    Anonymous, 24 Apr 2017S10 won't be worth it. Wait for S11 with SD865No! No phone will worth waiting unless it has 1ym (yoctometer) manufacturing probably will come along with Samsung galaxy s100000 LOL!!

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      • Anonymous
      • IWQ
      • 24 Apr 2017

      mir, 24 Apr 2017That's why I'm still using a flagship phone from 2015. The ... moreWell, some people don't have to pay a cent or pay very little on contract annually, so there's smart people too.

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        • AlienNextDoor
        • JK1
        • 24 Apr 2017

        Anonymous, 24 Apr 2017Your sentence "only fools buy flagships. My S7" made me laughI never said I wasn't a fool myself, did I?
        I've made my share of foolish mistakes.

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          • Anonymous
          • 3SL
          • 24 Apr 2017

          unknown, 24 Apr 2017guys its wot worth it this s9 with sd845.. wait for the s1... moreS10 won't be worth it. Wait for S11 with SD865

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            • 24 Apr 2017

            Anonymous, 24 Apr 2017Not by much. Qualcomm has entered diminishing returns for s... moreThat's why I'm still using a flagship phone from 2015. The power is still sufficient for daily use. Actually, more than sufficient. Only vain people keep chasing after new models every year.

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              • Anonymous
              • 3SL
              • 24 Apr 2017

              AlienNextDoor, 24 Apr 2017What a rat race. The moment you unbox your new phone it's a... moreYour sentence "only fools buy flagships. My S7" made me laugh

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                • Anonymous
                • vG8
                • 24 Apr 2017

                Why not the note 8.
                That should be Samsung flagship phone not the s series.

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                  • Anonymous
                  • 6jq
                  • 24 Apr 2017

                  unknown, 24 Apr 2017guys its wot worth it this s9 with sd845.. wait for the s1... moreNot by much. Qualcomm has entered diminishing returns for some years now.

                  For example I remember guys saying in 2011 don't buy Intel CPU, the 2012 model would be better. Actually it wasn't (especially if you overclock), in fact not even the 2017 model is that much better (if you overclock both, then the 2017 model is only 30% faster).

                  In short, we're entering the diminishing returns era. Buy *now* don't wait. You'd get semi-max performance for maximum time, if you buy next year you'll basically buy the same performance but have it for one year less.

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                    • Anonymous
                    • AIA
                    • 24 Apr 2017

                    Maverick Viña, 24 Apr 201710 nano meter is size of the GATE,. 1nm is size of an (OXYG... moreI gotta know what you smoke

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                      • AnonD-563937
                      • NtY
                      • 24 Apr 2017

                      qualcomm is samsung exclusive , mediatek is useless , Apple ask different company every year to make their chips , srsly the market need anew company or else we will always see what happened this year with all flags launching with old chips. was looking forward seeing hellio x30 in any device still not to be found . btw i dnt mind SD820 in aphone launching this year but it shouldnt charge flagship price .

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                        • Anonymous
                        • 3I{
                        • 24 Apr 2017

                        This might be more important than previously as Samsung likely expects to sell quite a lot more S8 in the US than previously.

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                          • unknown
                          • n5K
                          • 24 Apr 2017

                          guys its wot worth it this s9 with sd845.. wait for the s10 with sd855.. will be more powerfull..

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                            • but you said 7nm!
                            • a4P
                            • 24 Apr 2017

                            In a previous post, you said that Samsung would use 7nm for the S9:
                            http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_should_begin_making_7nm_chips_in_early_2018-news-22953.php

                            So 7nm would only be in 2019?

                              Well, if it will be Samsung to create Qualcomm's SD845 or if it will be TSMC, it's not really crucial, the most important is that it will be more power efficient, more powerful and ready in time. And after all Samsung already have their own Exynos to work on and improving it much more.

                                Does that mean h1 2018 flagship will use sd835?

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                                  • Maverick Viña
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                                  • 24 Apr 2017

                                  10 nano meter is size of the GATE,. 1nm is size of an (OXYGEN/CARBON/SILICON?PHOSPHORUS) atom.if i say 3 nm its about the structure. in 3nm case for example, 2 Si atom and 1 K atom(impurity/eletron provider).but 3nm is too small it ll heat up and then gate ll burnout so 3 nm is as small as it can get according to moore's law by 2019. 10 nm
                                  my surface has 22nmCHIP but also it have a 22nm Magnum chassy to match. my phone your fone and president's fone is 16nm, latest intel chip is 14 nm. super servers of IBM are 7 nm...10 nm!dont buy

                                    AnonD-84768, 24 Apr 2017i doubt if QC can get enough capacity from QC since Apple h... moreI was wondering about that too - Apple and Samsung will both require a huge number of chips. And Huawei and MediaTek want in on TSMC's 10nm process (though MT reportedly slashed its order in half). How much capacity can TSMC muster, considering that it's a brand new process and yield won't be great at first?

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                                      • 24 Apr 2017

                                      i doubt if QC can get enough capacity from QC since Apple has already called dibs on it. but then again TSMC might have already increased some capacity on 10nm by then to offer to other customers.

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                                        • 24 Apr 2017

                                        Polius, 24 Apr 2017There you go. Already hoarding SD845 reserved for 2018. Dam... moreYes anddddd boom! It works!