Snapdragon 865's first Geekbench results match Qualcomm's promises

05 December 2019
But incremental upgrades aren't enough to catch up to the market leader, Apple.

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AnonF-85937, 13 Dec 2019Anyone can buy a 256 GB or 512 GB iPhone if they want, they... moreI worked for a telecom company that ran helpdesk for over 100 companies including Merck, JnJ and various others.

The VP of the telephony services used Android and so did most of the techs in IT.
So I think Android is excepted by technical management.

    Single core performance is a downgrade, and multi core is... come on it didn't beat last year's iPhone :/

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      • 13 Dec 2019

      Anonymous, 13 Dec 2019You are such a fanboy. The base Galaxy Fold has 512GB stor... moreAnyone can buy a 256 GB or 512 GB iPhone if they want, they are there.

      Company executives would not be using iPhones as their main phones if Android was good enough.

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        • Anonymous
        • mtj
        • 13 Dec 2019

        AnonF-85937, 08 Dec 2019We already have OTG. Nobody needs 960fps that records fo... moreYou are such a fanboy.
        The base Galaxy Fold has 512GB storage
        The base Note 10 has 256GB

        So the base Note 10 has 4 times more storage than any base iphone.
        Of course with a phone that comes right from the start in it's cheapest configuration with 256GB you don't really need SD card support but for a phone that comes with 64GB base storage it would be quite welcomed and even necessary.

        What phones Samsung or google executive use is irrelevant, they have enough money to buy any phone and I'm sure they have more than one phone anyway. This is just a desperate attempt to give the iphone the impression of superiority.
        The fact that Bill Gates uses an Android phone is irrelevant for android fans for example.

        "While the Apple competitor executives know whatÂÂ’s best, iPhone. :)
        Anyway, hopefully one day these Android chips will catchup and then maybe the executives will try to like Androids use them."

        LoL so you are suggesting that people buy iphones because of the Geekbench scores? Astonishing.

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          • Anonymous
          • mtj
          • 13 Dec 2019

          Antioch, 06 Dec 2019Why aren't you shifting over, completely, to Geekbench 5, i... moreGive me a break. What do you think Huawei can say in this case? Oh we didn't use the superior Cortex A77 cores because we didn't have time, or we weren't able to properly implement the architecture so we decide to use the older A76 design in order to finish the processor in time for the phone launch? Of course they won't say this.

          As Qualcomm showed the A77 core is clearly more efficient than the A76 core, it clearly has better IPC. This will help in general with any workload. The performance bump is 20% but I bet that certain workloads will see higher performance improvement especially workloads where the A76 performed poorly. That 20% is just the average.
          Also Qualcomm improved the sustained GPU performance which is great news for people that like mobile gaming.
          They made significant improvements in camera performance and features and basically doubled the AI performance.

          So actually the SD 865 is quite a decent improvement overall vs the SD 855.

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            • 09 Dec 2019

            Singel core important for Apple not Linux as long as upstream drivers are in place

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              • Anonymous
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              • 08 Dec 2019

              AnonF-85937, 08 Dec 2019We already have OTG. Nobody needs 960fps that records fo... moreSo you got triggered by facts about your stone Age OS?
              Cool I bet you repeat those lies above everyday before going to bed.
              Whatever makes you sleep at night!

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                • 08 Dec 2019

                chuck, 07 Dec 2019synthetic benchmark in mobiles are just malarkey and gimmic... moreActually the CPUs in most smartphones are so fast they are only held back by the speed of RAM & storage anyway so does the speed matter once you go over a A73/75 at over 2GHz?

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                  • 08 Dec 2019

                  Anonymous, 07 Dec 2019Premium buyers? Lol more like stuck in the prison buyers. ... moreWe already have OTG.

                  Nobody needs 960fps that records for a measly few seconds, thatÂÂ’s useless.
                  Nobody wants MicroSD expansion thatÂÂ’s why the Galaxy Fold, standard Galaxy Note10 and Galaxy S10 5G donÂÂ’t have it, itÂÂ’s old, insecure and slow.

                  Eric Schmidt of Alphabet (Google parent company)
                  Ren Zhengfei (Founder of Huawei)
                  Young Sohn (the Chief Strategy Officer of Samsung)

                  All use iPhones yet they sell you all Androids, lol.

                  All the stuff you keep repeating is just to compensate for a poor software experience in Android. :)

                  While the Apple competitor executives know whatÂ’s best, iPhone. :)

                  Anyway, hopefully one day these Android chips will catchup and then maybe the executives will try to like Androids use them.

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                    • 07 Dec 2019

                    AnonF-85937, 07 Dec 2019Us Premium Buyers donÂ’t care for such :) Only peo... moreeveryone just argue everything about apple vs android, but the one who have money buy two phone (android and iphone) and use that on same time,

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                      • 07 Dec 2019

                      synthetic benchmark in mobiles are just malarkey and gimmicks and not close to real world performance whatsoever

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                        • Anonymous
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                        • 07 Dec 2019

                        AnonF-85937, 07 Dec 2019Us Premium Buyers donÂ’t care for such :) Only peo... morePremium buyers? Lol more like stuck in the prison buyers.
                        A fool and his money are soon parted.

                        Nobody records 960fps slow motion for hours. The idea is to slow down everything to capture that one moment which your Toy phone can't. And yeah I can save thousands of such videos coz Android has expandable storage and Otg to offload all those videos.

                        Don't worry your outdated OS will get these things in 2030.
                        Till then keep dreaming about these features and enjoy that ugly notch.

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                          • 07 Dec 2019

                          Intersting scores , though expected. New SOCs are faster and exciting. We would lke to see their true performance though, by letting them compute large and sustained mathematical loads, rendering loads etc. At the end of the day we see them as computers. No-one is interested how many milliseconds faster they will load a broswer or a lightweight app(as the majority of mobile apps are). We want them to see their capacity at really lifting loads. This way , we will understand their true performance when under maximum power requirements. A standard cpu can go from 3 all the way to 6+ Ghz. At 6, it will be quite faster than at 3. We are facing about the same problem when evaluating SOCs . For all intents and purposes we examine them "overclocked", not how they would perform if heavilt strained for , let's say , an hour.

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                            • 07 Dec 2019

                            Anonymous, 07 Dec 2019What good is a processor if it gets bottlenecked by sub par... moreUs Premium Buyers donÂ’t care for such :)

                            Only people who buy cheap Androids and dont own tablets and a proper computer, need all that.

                            Us Premium Buyers enjoy an efficient OS, backed by the best Ecosystem, with long term updates, high quality software and the best Camera experience.

                            There is a good reason why Apple products are used in Aviation and Medical field, not cheap unreliable Androids that need 12GB RAM to run smoothly.

                            All those things you listed are to compensate for poor software build. How long can your crapDroid even record at 960fps? A few seconds at best? Useless!

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                              • 07 Dec 2019

                              AnonF-85937, 06 Dec 2019Indeed he didn’t, LOL! You know how these Apple haters are... moreWhat good is a processor if it gets bottlenecked by sub par hardware that Apple provides?

                              Bottlenecked by less RAM (in multitasking), bottlenecked by lower screen refresh rate (in gaming) and most importantly bottlenecked by the OS which fails to deliver features like split screen multitasking & 960fps super slow motion recording even if the chipset is capable of it.

                              This is why A13 Bionic is useless. Now if it was running on Android, it's real power could be harnessed.

                                Ziggy, 06 Dec 2019Is there any other cpu core manufacturer except arm?Arm is not even cpu manufacturer. They just design cpu and let others use the design to customise configuration and manufacture it. Kyro, bionic and exynos just arm with deeper tweak inside. Only premature risc-v and x86-64 currently arm rivals in cpu market for us regular user

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                                  • Anonymous
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                                  • 06 Dec 2019

                                  Bill Jobs, 06 Dec 2019Actually the 855+ version came earlier to A13 bionic with t... moreExactly; how come the a13 is the competitor for the 855 even though the 855 was introduced ten months beforehand? Besides, the 865 was just introduced only two months after the A13.

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                                    • 06 Dec 2019

                                    Mr. Anonymous, 06 Dec 2019"This also means that Apple’s performance will remain out o... moreTo add onto this, these are pre-production models; who knows what benchmark scores actual phones equipped with the chip will get.

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                                      • 06 Dec 2019

                                      Anonymous, 06 Dec 2019lol, what kind of "real life" you are talking about? Benchmark means nothing, when in real use snapdragon 855 is much faster than apples a13.

                                        Anonymous, 06 Dec 2019lol, what kind of "real life" you are talking about? He obviously means the " after life "......

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