Samsung claims that yields from its 5 nm foundries are improving

18 March 2022
Those foundries are making chips like the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1, but are seeing low yield rates.

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OhNom, 21 Mar 2022It's on Golden Reviewer's Twitter, you can go the... moreClearly I am the stupid one, yes. For talking with someone with no brains. But I learned my lesson. Have a... decent day.

    Darknoor, 21 Mar 2022I like the fact that you have exact percentage for this, an... moreIt's on Golden Reviewer's Twitter, you can go there and rest easy

    So many things to say and you had to say stupid, I don't understand why they can't accept when their brand loses, the one that should be tested more is D9000, as it was only released on 1 phone and with poor cooling, 8 Gen 1 se has released in dozens, there is nothing to prove, you can go cry

      Darknoor, 21 Mar 2022I like the fact that you have exact percentage for this, an... morehttps://www.notebookcheck.net/MediaTek-Dimensity-9000-vs-Snapdragon-8-Gen-1-First-mass-production-device-benchmarks-show-less-of-a-gap-than-previously- thought.608051.0.html

      So many things to say and you had to say stupid, I don't understand why they can't accept when their brand loses, the one that should be tested more is D9000, as it was only released on 1 phone and with poor cooling, 8 Gen 1 se has released in dozens, there is nothing to prove, you can go cry

        OhNom, 21 Mar 2022No, it's the best in numbers and real life, I know I t... moreI like the fact that you have exact percentage for this, and did not try enough models with Gen 1.
        Makes me trust you 78%.

          Darknoor, 20 Mar 2022The 9000 is not better, just in numbers, just like the Exyn... moreNo, it's the best in numbers and real life, I know I tested it on OPPO Find X5 Pro which has some of the worst ventilation ever seen and was still 20% more efficient overall than 8 Gen 1, and 7% more powerful with a consumption of 10% less in Cortex X2

          This is very funny, QC leads in cooling, their last devices have been 2 stoves, and no, I don't see it possible that they have a project, they would kill their own flagship, if something happens it will do it in the new generation and Cortex X3 doesn't seem much better than x2

            Samsung says that its foundry yields are improving, which translates to "yields are not improving", since Samsung is an admitted liar.


            Tangentially, given Samsung is technologically ahead of Intel, and given Samsung has admitted to falsifying yields on their 4nm process (which very likely means they have lied about all their latest nodes), Intel probably won’t catch Samsung for a few years, and will likely never catch TSMC, despite the yarn Pat Gelsinger so loosely spins.

              35.01%, OMG that's awesome

                Darknoor, 20 Mar 2022The 9000 is not better, just in numbers, just like the Exyn... moreMTK D9000 is faster regarding CPU loads. It's not magic, it's not lithography it's more cache, not shared cache between pair's of small core's and better parallelism (SoC cache). The Mali never got to level to compete against Adreno (Ati) and as the things go it never will (losing biggest vendor HiSilicone and fallen Nv acquisition). Arm is laying of 15% of employees and that's the start only.

                  OhNom, 19 Mar 2022And the point of this is? 3 years ago QC controlled everyth... moreThe 9000 is not better, just in numbers, just like the Exynos.
                  SD is still the king, despite how closer the MT chips are getting to its title.
                  It would be unlikely that QC doesn't have a hidden project to flip the table back but they do still lead in cooling and image processing. MT only gives better performance in gaming and so slightly.

                    The Samsung 5 nm FinFet had yields little under 50% a year ago by all report's and I am sure they improved it in the meantime. QC would be crazy to switch now as Samsung is 1.5~2 years ahead everyone else when it comes to GaA and it will start with Samsung 3 nm GaA. FinFet reached it's real peak potential with 14~16 nm nodes and have very little benefits afterwards. And besides no one wants to switch anything this day's keeping in mind supply shortages and outbreaks.

                      Anonymous, 18 Mar 2022https://sumahodigest.com/?p=8384 Mediatek widwos can cry... moreAnd the point of this is? 3 years ago QC controlled everything and now only the high end, someone is losing ground and it's not Mediatek, and D9000 is better than 8 Gen 1 it's just a matter of time

                        Jay, 19 Mar 2022"The company didn’t officially confirm it, but the yie... moreActually the article is wrong, it talks about the performance under 5nm so it includes 4nm

                          SamsungRules, 18 Mar 2022where did you get the news that samsung snapdragon gen 1 yi... morehttps://www.digitimes.com/news/a20220317PD211.html

                          Speaking of the other, there is a big difference, the graphics cards literally have fans, they are not going to suffer as many heat problems as a phone

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                            IcyJay30, 19 Mar 2022Tsmc 845 with proof https://www.sammobile.com/2017/06/13/q... moreUse your head sometime.
                            Those are early prediction rumors post just like you will find a lot of post where it's suggested that SD has chosen TSMC for SD gen 1 SoC.

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                              P C M, 19 Mar 2022Both 835 and 845 were made by Samsung. Samsung's Fin... moreShow me proof of 845 made by samsung, there are literally numerous sources saying 845 was made by tsmc
                              https://www.sammobile.com/2017/06/13/qualcomm-reportedly-ditches-samsung-moves-ahead-with-tsmc-for-7nm-processors/amp/

                                Yet they still can't beat 2020's Huawei kirin 9000 chip

                                  welp,i don't trust them now,but maybe they did have some improvement

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                                    Jesus christ, everyone pretending they know anything about litography of chips and how it makes a difference. Everyone obsessing over smaller numbers (I thought you guys were all obsessed with big numbers) and thinking making something with smaller node just magically makes it better. Newsflash, it doesn't. If chip is designed in a certain way, using TSMC or Samsung's fabs, makes no difference. There might be minor advantage, but not something that would entirely change the characteristics of a chip.

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                                      anonym, 19 Mar 2022Both made by Samsung 10LPE and 10LPP process respectively, ... moreI didn't say 835, 845 were made in EUV process.
                                      What I meant was Samsung messed up when they introduced EUV process with 7nm. Before that they were very competitive.

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