Apple's new M4 chip comes with the fastest Neural Engine ever

07 May 2024
It's making its debut in the new iPad Pro.

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  • 11 May 2024

(Laughs in RTX GPU)

38 TOPS??
Okay. An RTX 4090 has 1300 TOPS of AI processing power.
Even a 4060 is roughly 10x this.

    Soon or later said AI will prevail over humans and humanity new skynet is close to be created.

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      • Anonymous
      • U@C
      • 08 May 2024

      Anonymous, 08 May 2024What issues?https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/macbooks/unpatchable-vulnerability-discovered-in-apple-m1-m2-and-m3-chips-what-you-need-to-know

      Basically, this silicon level flaw (hence practically unpatchable) enables malware to break encryption.

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        • rpg
        • 08 May 2024

        Anonymous, 08 May 2024yeah, boring & expired marketing word. who make new chi... moreWhere have you seen than the new chip is slower than the old one? This cannot be

          Anonymous, 08 May 2024I don't think that they are fanboys. The thing is, if ... moreI'd say it's a bit of both, for example MKBHD has been a fan of Google's style since the start and many others are more biased towards one brand or another for some reason

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            • Anonymous
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            • 08 May 2024

            Anonymous, 08 May 2024Does it address the unpatchable vulnerability in M1/M2/M3? ... moreWhat issues?

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              • Anonymous
              • U@C
              • 08 May 2024

              Does it address the unpatchable vulnerability in M1/M2/M3?

              I see that the news around issues with M1/M2/M3 has been buried.

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                • Anonymous
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                • 08 May 2024

                jiyen235, 08 May 2024As I said before. Never underestimate the gullibility of th... moreI don't think that they are fanboys. The thing is, if they give bad reviews, some companies may stop sending them review units.

                  Anonymous, 07 May 2024It seems to me that the problem lies in people saying ok, a... moreAs I said before. Never underestimate the gullibility of the average consumer. They'll buy most things BECAUSE they are popular, heck I'm guilty of it. I bought my monitor, a Dell one, 10 years ago cus my uncle had a Dell Laptop 17 years ago and it gave good service and I believed in it. Same goes for Samsung, our family kept buying Samsung phones from like the Note5 days and still does.

                  Also, I understand your point but the age of "vote with your wallet" is gone. No one cares about the bad stuff anymore. Take predatory ways of getting money in games. People still buy those games and support those devs. Nothing to do. World's messed up. And the people who are supposed to call them out, reviewers, don't. They've become shills, either fanboys or people who want to keep good relations with the brands.

                    Fastest Neural Engine ever*

                    *In an Apple product, which means not really that fast.

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                      • Anonymous
                      • PxV
                      • 08 May 2024

                      Anonymous, 07 May 2024'Ever' is the favorite word of apple.yeah, boring & expired marketing word. who make new chip that is slower than old one ... funny

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                        • Anonymous
                        • PxV
                        • 08 May 2024

                        this fast + this thin ... battery last like 1-2 hours? or may be 3h max. we don't mind 1mm thicker & a bit heavier with larger battery. all previous ipad pro last shorter than iphone pro max series ... T_T

                          Based on the anecdotal points raised by Apple, this looks to be made on the proper 3nm node (TSMC 3E), rather than the (TSMC 3P) abysmal/problematic early-3nm we got with last year's iPhone 15 (A17-PRO chipset).

                          This should hopefully show a true, real-world efficiency improvement in the 2024 A18-Pro, of roughly +30% from the A17 and +40% from the A15. And it should correlate similarly with the M4 versus the M3 (+30%) and M2 (+40%), as well as their subsequent Pro/Max/Ultra models.

                          Meaning, whoever got an M3 or A17 or even A16 based device, basically got ripped off. I guess we will have to wait for the device to be released, and everything tested properly by reputable sources. If true, this is good news, it's progress. It seems like a preemptive response to the upcoming tablets and laptops running Windows11 and using the Snapdragon EliteX and ElitePro (Oryon-based) chipsets. Maybe it will mean that the iPad Pro devices might actually get more advanced in software too, since Windows11 is showing promising future for Native-ARM programs from the big software companies.

                          Let us watch this space carefully : )

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                            • Anonymous
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                            • 07 May 2024

                            in, 07 May 2024Game over x86 AMD Intel windows is so old TOPS about 12, M4... moreA basic off the shelf PC with Nvidia graphics already hits 45 trillion. Nvidia has delivered data centre devices well into the quadrillions.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • U@6
                              • 07 May 2024

                              in, 07 May 2024Game over x86 AMD Intel windows is so old TOPS about 12, M4... moreGPU is agnostic, it can easily run on x86 and ARM with slight changes, for CPU it's not possible

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                                • Anonymous
                                • NhR
                                • 07 May 2024

                                jiyen235, 07 May 2024Pretty sure they'll make this awesome chip with such i... moreIt seems to me that the problem lies in people saying ok, and paying for them. I don't. We live in an age where it's extremely hard to be irreplaceable. The only issue is that people want to convince so bad, that they're willing to pay hundreds for it.

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                                  • 07 May 2024

                                  in, 07 May 2024Game over x86 AMD Intel windows is so old TOPS about 12, M4... moreThe biggest reason for abysmal Efficiency of PC chips comes from their chappy core management & inability to properly utilise the capability of System.

                                  Geekarawan pointed out in his test of Apple M vs AMD,Intel PC chip...you can see that video.

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • CbA
                                    • 07 May 2024

                                    'Ever' is the favorite word of apple.

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                                      • S37
                                      • 07 May 2024

                                      Game over x86 AMD Intel windows is so old TOPS about 12, M4 just below 40? And the winner is qcom elite almost 45 TOP, but the Software is more important nothing beats Linux, Nvidia will soon emulate crappy x86 CPU's on graphic cards think they have enough

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                                        • Anonymous
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                                        • 07 May 2024

                                        Wheres Windows 10S...they ditch that too