Newly leaked Sony teaser says "next 1 is coming"

10 May 2024
The official launch event is taking place on May 15.

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LucasN82, 11 May 2024And for 125mm F2.8 size is?5.15mm - Why are you asking these questions?

    I almost thought Sony teasing next gen 1 inch sensor.

      LucasN82, 11 May 2024Yes XD is sooo agressive. No man you are agressive because ... moreYou ignored pretty much all the points that I made and just left "XD OK" as a comment - If that's not passive aggressive then I don't know what is.

      Xperia's JPEGs are aggressively sharpened and there's no way to go around it. Your video was still sharpened (It wasn't as badly done as in the JPEGs, though), and I pointed out the fact that the footage you showed to me was useless to prove your point for numerous reasons. You dismissed my points and proceeded to claim Xperia cannot apply sharpening to 4K120 HLG footage in real time. I refuted that as well by pointing to the fact that it doesn't require much computational power at all to apply sharpening to an image.

      You said Pura 70 Ultra's photo looks like "computer generated" without mentioning what makes you think that way, so I replied to you that to me it looks as good as it can get as far as the detail rendition goes. You moved your goalpost and are now claiming "Pura 70 Ultra does not do this (sharpening) in photos". You may be interested in a possibility that, maybe I can discern the difference between a moderate amount of sharpening that subtly emphasises details and an aggressive, very large radius sharpening that introduces ringing artifacts everywhere. Just maybe.

      Or you can start editing RAW photos and see what sharpening does to an image when it's applied too excessively. Lightroom is your friend.

        Nick Tegrataker, 11 May 2024It's roughly 4.3mm, although this has nothing to do wi... moreAnd for 125mm F2.8 size is?

          IMX363, 11 May 2024Pura 70 Ultra seems to have more detail, but also looks lik... moreIt's hard to tell how the scene is supposed to look without a reference image or any other phones taking a photo of the same scene simultaneously. I hope GSMArena will conduct a smartphone camera comparison later this year since all the major performers (Apple, BBK, Samsung, Xiaomi) and niche ones (Huawei, Sony) will have their flagships released.

            LucasN82, 11 May 2024Could you tell my what size aperture in mm (milimeters) hav... moreIt's roughly 4.3mm, although this has nothing to do with the shape of the bokeh which is determined by the lens diaphragm, or in this case, the actual shape of the lens itself (which is D-cut which is a circular lens with both ends being cut off to create more rectangular shape, as shown in the diagram in this article).

              Nick Tegrataker, 11 May 2024Nice video but it's not a piece of good evidence to su... morePura 70 Ultra seems to have more detail, but also looks like it belongs in /r/shittyHDR subreddit.

                jiyen235, 11 May 2024S24U is 1/1.3" and the Vivo X100 Pro is 1 inch. The Ni... moreI think the ISO and shutter speed also depends on how the manufacturers process the images. Yes, the sensor plays a big role but it's not the only thing. The Huawei p60 pro for example has a not very large main sensor but if you look at the photo compare tool in controlled lighting here (and the real sampolle photos) it uses a faster shutter speed in low light and the same for good light and lower ISO (in good light and lowlight) than both the Xiaomi 13 ultra and Oppo find x6 pro which have the much larger and better imx989 sensor. Huawei has always used a low ISO on their image processing on flagships and a relatively fast shutter speed so it also depends on the manfacturer's image processing.

                https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=5&idPhone1=12172&idPhone2=12236&idPhone3=12105 (lowlight)



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                  Anonymous, 11 May 2024No need to discuss 1V Tele samples from gsma cause since th... moreDon't say that, the 5 fake photographer wanabes in this thread are gonna mald. They need to compare last year's phone to phones that came out barely a week ago, with complicated words and samples from a pre-release firmware, and their phones are still losing/barely better. But hey, who cares if anything anyone said is true or not, this is GSMArena's comment section after all.

                    jiyen235, 11 May 2024Because they're behind in sensor size for all of the c... moreMistake.

                      jiyen235, 11 May 2024HLG is cool and all and I respect Sony for that but I haven... moreLow Light 4K samples | Xperia 1V
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                      YT app, set brightness to minimum 80%. In my opinion HLG is the biggest step forward in smartphone history.

                        jiyen235, 11 May 2024S24U is 1/1.3" and the Vivo X100 Pro is 1 inch. The Ni... moreNoise comparison should be done on the same ISO levels.
                        Believe me dual layer senor have much bigger light sensitivity on the same sensor size.

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                          Anonymous, 11 May 2024Oh boy.... here come the Sony knightsTell me about it! Trying to use a thread full of photographic technical jargon to explain away the fact that Xperia’s consistently have some of the most mediocre cameras of any flagship.

                            LucasN82, 11 May 2024Xperia records videos in SDR and full HLG mode (BT2020 up t... moreHLG is cool and all and I respect Sony for that but I haven't seen much samples from Xperia in HDR and that's the tech youtubers' fault yea. Anyways, I think 90% of people would just use the SDR mode in the Xperia and that's why I talked about the Pro Mode in other phones, which is similar to the Auto mode of Xperia.

                            Also I never mentioned DV, I only mentioned HDR and I was talking about HDR10. DV isn't necessary for a good HDR experience. The jump from SDR to HDR is massive, the jump from HDR 10 to other formats is only massive in terms of specs, not output.

                              LucasN82, 11 May 2024The dual layer sensor has a 50% larger light reading area (... moreS24U is 1/1.3" and the Vivo X100 Pro is 1 inch. The Night mode off shots on the X100 Pro have far lower ISO than the Xperia, take a look at the data posted by GSMarena and see the ISO and shutter speed. If the Xperia were similar in terms of performance, the ISO would've been far lower or the shutter speed would've been far lower. Both are higher, showing that there's a difference between a 1 inch and Xperia's "dual-diode" whatever tech that still makes the 1 incher trump the Xperia.

                                punmeisterone, 11 May 2024Only the main camera uses the LYT800 Exmor-T sensor. The ot... moreYes, it's the main camera I was referring to. The ultrawide is already using a better sensor than most other flagships anyway (apart from the Nubia Z60 ultra which has the best ultrawide of this year's flagships).

                                  jiyen235, 11 May 2024Because they're behind in sensor size for all of the c... moreXperia records videos in SDR and full HLG mode (BT2020 up to 5000nits). HLG is fully compatible with Youtube, Dolby Vision doesnt.

                                    jiyen235, 11 May 2024if you want a small phone, use Xiaomi 14. Let there be a bi... moreSensor size and aperture depends on smartphone thickness. Sony knows what they doin'

                                      NeonHD, 11 May 2024I agree with most of what you said. Though I think it would... moreBecause they're behind in sensor size for all of the cameras, they're behind in RAW photography. Sony's videography is cool but again, Pro Mode from other manufacturers will give a similar output since Sony is mostly SDR in its highlight control, just like Pro Mode. Besides, what's the point of all that control in the Sony if you don't have the necessary hardware?

                                      It's like a Manual mode on let's say a Toyota Corolla compared to the Auto mode of idk a GR86 or something. That car can go manual too. And if the Corolla and GR86 are both priced similarly, why would I get the Corolla?

                                        jiyen235, 11 May 2024the technology is cool and all but it's pretty niche a... moreThe dual layer sensor has a 50% larger light reading area (the amplifying converting transistor has been moved to another floor) and the potential well has been extended.
                                        And yes ExmorT on 1V has 1-inch sensor performance (just check low light videos in HLG mode - they look like from RX100/apsc Alpha), or compare etc photos from S24U and 1V in low light but with turn off night mode (you can find those on gsmarena).

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