Apple iPhone 12 mini
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- Anonymous
- LX7
- 19 Oct 2020
Akira Kurou, 19 Oct 2020I don't really think so, because a lot of cheap phones... moreCopycat android manufacturers will bring some better small phones if the 12 mini has any success, that's for sure.
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- Akira Kurou
- PI8
- 19 Oct 2020
joe nodden, 18 Oct 2020There's many more important factors that go into buyin... moreI don't really think so, because a lot of cheap phones sold last year are mostly 6 inches plus in size (brands from xiaomi, realmi, oppo etc). Another factor that need to be considered is the battery size. people looking for large phones are usually equipped with large batteries that can last the whole day or two but smaller phones might not last a single day.
That is probably the reason why samsung ditched the s10e in favour of larger s20 series this year.
I'm not sure about iPhone 12 mini though, since it is smaller than the SE 2020 but with larger display and those magsafe built in, i think battery might be smaller. Then again it is apple, it might sell like hot cakes just like the iPhone 11 and 8.
But let's say this 12 mini did sold well, android manufacturers might follow suit in making smaller and lighter sized phones which might be great since not everyone has big hands. Probably next year might have a lot of size options for android phone.
Then again they might also remove the charger just like they did with the headphone jack. lol
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- Kristo Radion
- PIG
- 19 Oct 2020
small size with 135g weight.. what a dream compact phone.
i remember using samsung A5 which is 5" and 130g, it feels fantastic.
nowadays sony makes the so-called compact xperia 5, which looks like a bluray remote.
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- Anonymous
- LX7
- 18 Oct 2020
PaintNinja, 18 Oct 2020The latest gsmarena poll shows that the 12 mini is the most... moreWasting your time replying to someone who thinks he is clearly smarter than apple at their own game. Laughable. This is going to play out very similar to the SE 2020, in fact this 12 mini has more going for it than the SE had before it went on to be a best seller.
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- PaintNinja
- 3Wq
- 18 Oct 2020
joe nodden, 18 Oct 2020There's many more important factors that go into buyin... moreThe latest gsmarena poll shows that the 12 mini is the most popular iPhone option at the moment (https://www.gsmarena.com/weekly_poll_which_of_the_for_iphone_12_models_will_have_you_opening_your_wallet-news-45815.php). Additionally, the 12 mini had higher daily interest on this site than any other iphone for a decent chunk of time, only recently being beaten by the 12 pro max in terms of daily interest but still higher than the 12 and 12 pro.
People are clearly interested in a decent small phone like this one, this is despite it costing significantly more than the similarly physical size iPhone SE 2020 or iPhone 8 which have smaller screens. People want a phone they can easily use one-handed without old looking space-inefficient large top-and-bottom bezels (iPhone SE 2020) or low-end internals (most small Android phones), if the interest was mostly down to price like you are considering, then people would be buying the SE 2020 instead due to being similar in physical size but much cheaper.
In terms of physical size, I think most people out there are buying these increasingly large phone options because there simply isn't a smaller flagship alternative, with those who genuinely want the bigger screen getting the "XL"/"Plus"/"Max" model instead.
- joe nodden
- IbI
- 18 Oct 2020
IKA, 18 Oct 2020I think the market share of people wanting smaller phones i... moreThere's many more important factors that go into buying a phone than size. Saying "44% of 2019 shipments were for 5.5 to 6 inch phones" is just not at all looking at the whole picture. Hardly any phones made that year were equipped with sub 6 inch displays. Only 111 show up as being 5.9 inches or below on gsmarena's phone finder. And of those, only 3 are flagships. And of those, only 2 sold decently. (Idk what the 11 Pro's sales are like but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and say it sold well)
Meaning, the main source of small phones being bought that year would've had to of been made up people not wealthy enough to even afford larger phones, so they went with older smaller phones. It's just like with the SE 2020 sales. They either bought the older smaller phones because they were cheaper, or because they were small. I'm going with the former for the majority of them.
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- IKA
- pYP
- 18 Oct 2020
joe nodden, 18 Oct 2020Hahahahaha I find it funny you mention Sony. Whose smartpho... moreI think the market share of people wanting smaller phones is much larger than .5%. I have normal size hands but I don't like to carry a massive phone around, my current phone is 6.1'' and that is pretty much the largest screen I'm willing to buy, so I'm actually pretty happy that phone manufacturers still make decent size phones and haven't gone to producing phablets exclusively.
I don't know how it's going to sell but I home moni does well. Just for insight - in 2019 from all mobile shipments - 44% were with screen size 5.5 - 6'', 20% - 5 - 5.5'' so I don't think that small phones don't sell.
- joe nodden
- jpa
- 18 Oct 2020
Anonymous, 18 Oct 2020That's changing, look at the pixels, the Xperias and t... moreHahahahaha I find it funny you mention Sony. Whose smartphone segment is failing horribly. It's a miracle they haven't shut it down yet, yet you want to use them as an example as to why smaller phones sell well. How sad.
And gsmarena didn't want to approve my other reply mentioning it, but you want to bring up the SE 2020 a second time now. After my original reply disproved your argument involving it before you even made the argument.
"And I know you're going to try to use the SE against me, when that costed a third what this costs, which is why it sold."
Jeez just admit you're wrong already and stop embarrassing yourself.
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- Anonymous
- LX7
- 18 Oct 2020
joe nodden, 18 Oct 2020For the same reason nobody makes tiny phones. Doesn't ... moreThat's changing, look at the pixels, the Xperias and the iPhone SE 2020 is selling big despite all the bla bla blah. SE 2020 sales was the green light to go ahead with this 12 mini.
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- Anonymous
- XUS
- 18 Oct 2020
Anonymous, 18 Oct 2020You watch 4 new mid range android will now come out. There ... morePixel 4a is shit.
It's got nothing but camera.
- joe nodden
- jpa
- 18 Oct 2020
Anonymous, 18 Oct 2020How do you know it's going to sell badly, how in the w... moreFor the same reason nobody makes tiny phones. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out bud. Use that tiny brain of yours.
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- Anonymous
- LX7
- 18 Oct 2020
joe nodden, 18 Oct 2020Lmao once again you don't get business. If companies w... moreHow do you know it's going to sell badly, how in the world you can tell, if you sell crystal balls in working condition I will buy you one, I mean you would hit 3 trillion in no time selling those.
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- Mr Fazal
- Py$
- 18 Oct 2020
This will be blast most men like me hate big phone we love future ultra eye glass technology with motion sensor so fast a human turn in to robo till it's small atom of Apple
- joe nodden
- jpa
- 18 Oct 2020
Anonymous, 18 Oct 2020Do you honestly beleive that the people who run a company w... moreLmao once again you don't get business. If companies were suddenly flawless because they were worth a ton we wouldn't have companies like Toys R Us, Compaq, Eastern Airlines, and more going bankrupt. Apple isn't worth $2 trillion just because they sell a lot of iPhones. If that were the case we'd have Samsung and Huawei as number 1 and 2. Apple is worth that much because of their obnoxious profit margins. So they rely on fewer but more profitable sales, so if they get a phone that hardly sells at all on top of the already few sales they make in comparison to competitors, what kind of position do you think that puts them in. A position where they have a phone that wasn't worth it to sell. A mistake.
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- Anonymous
- 88k
- 18 Oct 2020
So many people who can predict the future over here (this iphone won't sell, nobody buys apple anymore, etc). If these people can predict the future like that, why don't they predict the lottery numbers, become millionares and spent their time enjoying their private jets, mansions, yachtes or supercars instead of wasting it in internet forums ? Just guessing.
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- Anonymous
- 88k
- 18 Oct 2020
Anonymous, 18 Oct 2020Sure? The small and light iPhone SE 2020 made almost 1 out... moreeither that guy lives in a fantasy bubble world and isn't reading comments here and in other websites or he is just angry cuz most people (even android fans) loved the 12 mini and don't hate compact phones like he does
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- Anonymous
- 88k
- 18 Oct 2020
joe nodden, 18 Oct 2020I think you think I'm attacking them because of the ex... moreDo you honestly beleive that the people who run a company worth US$ 2 trillion are a bunch of incompetent fools that suddenly decided to produce a compact iPhone only because it's cute ? Do you honestly believe they didn't order any market research to find out if consumers were willing to spend their money on a compact iPhone, that they would take the risk of having little or no profit with this mini version ?
Watch out Tim Cook! Mr. business expert over here might take away you job soon! LOL
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- Anonymous
- LX7
- 18 Oct 2020
joe nodden, 18 Oct 2020Finally the midget handed people that make up .5% of consum... moreSure? The small and light iPhone SE 2020 made almost 1 out of 3 iPhone sales in Q2 2020, you don't have any idea how many people are sick of brick phones, because of the price it will not sell as well as the SE but it will make it far above .5%, who in the world knows where you get those numbers.
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- Anonymous
- LX7
- 18 Oct 2020
Anonymous, 18 Oct 2020android phones priced at $699 - Ok iphones priced at $699 ... moreApple's cheapest phone available price is fairly to significantly above the average sale price in most regions of the world, that makes all iPhones luxury items. Obviously there are luxury android phones, but who the hell was talking about android phones?