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Anonymous, 30 Jun 2023SD cards are so unreliable the data they give might as well... moreIf SD cards aren't reliable, Professional Cameras wouldn't be using them. Right now even most FF cameras uses SD and only the most expensive ones uses CF. Note that no professional cameras uses 32~512GB Internal Storage + Cloud. Based on this fact either you are very careless with your SD cards, or you are just lying.
I have owns like 30+ SD cards and only around 2 died on duty because I use a bad card reader. None has ever die while being used inside a Phone, Tablet or Digital Camera.
Now I primary use my old SD cards after they retired from my phone to be the Chrome, Firefox and Adobe scratch disk so as to protect my SSD C Drive. And they usually last around 3~6 months of being used as a scratch disk before failing.
So no, for me, at least for the past 5 years, the rate of failure for SD cards is 0%. If you are using Sandisk or Kingston you either got fakes or you are just plain unlucky, mu aunt's 16GB Scandisk (which is less reliable than Kingston) is still 100% usable inside a phone after like 7 years of usage. As for Kioxia and Sony they are almost indestructible, Samsung is around Kingston's level.
As for Audio, I only have around 7GB of Mp3 but I still keep them on my SD card because it's easier for me to change phone when all the stuffs are on SD cards. And I don't use cloud music because it requires an internet connection.

    Hmm unfortunately no card slot. But the phone is very interesting.

      Bzuco, 30 Jun 2023Micro SD card can also fails as any other memory chip or st... moreMost of my stuffs are on my phone, my SD card has only around 7GB of Media, which I backup to a SSD every week. I also backup my Whats App every day. SD card is my first level back up that has the most recent stuffs, while SSD is my second. I only use cloud for stuffs I am sharing with others. As well as for Whats App backup. I don't use it for my media.

        justasmile, 30 Jun 2023Yeah and if you lose the phone, you lose the data inside. ... moreFirst, if my phone spoils, only the internal storage spoils.
        As for SD card spoiling? It never happens to me.
        Finally, I don't intend on losing my phone, but if you are the type that leave your phones in unsafe places without people looking, go ahead and use cloud. Just don't try to force that nonsense on people whom had never lose their phone.

          xslvrxslwt, 30 Jun 2023I said spoof. No one said anything about buying a lame ahh ... moreOther than Pixels, another phones don't comes with unlimited Google Photos.
          Also, the fact that you start insulting other people is evident of your own moral levels.
          There is this idea of privacy, what I do is none of Apple's Google's or your business. And also, Cloud storage price and policies can change anytime, I don't intend to let Google or Asus or whoever hold my data hostage.
          If you like to be spied on, go live in China.

            justasmile, 30 Jun 2023Stop talking nonsense.You are the one talking nonsense, I am saying facts.

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              • Anonymous
              • sX6
              • 30 Jun 2023

              Chaos X 1982, 30 Jun 2023Also, your reply just proves that you cloud supporters are ... moreSD cards are so unreliable the data they give might as well not exist.

              For some context, I've had a lot of SD cards now, I can lay my hand on at least 10 immediately but I'm 99% certain I have more. You want to know how many of those are still working? I'll tell you: Four.

              Yes, you read that right, four.

              The rest don't even show up on the computer (forget any data on them), and I've done all the troubleshooting steps this side of the galaxy.

              I don't know about you, but I can't trust any storage medium that has a 60% failure rate (I wasn't even doing anything heavy on any of mine, just data storage) with literally any data at all. And these aren't no name cards either, most of them are Sandisk or Kingston (haven't tried Samsung or Integral, I have one Kioxia card in an RPi that still runs and my mum's dash cam has one that's still running mint after 2 years so maybe Kioxia is better than most). I just can't trust these things to still have readable data on them when I want to access it.

              When someone puts an M.2 slot on a phone maybe I'll be interested in expandable storage, yes I realise they're much larger and 99% overkill but they're multiple times the speed an SD card will ever be, significantly cheaper in large capacities and incredibly reliable. Until then, I'll happily pay the whatever a month for cloud storage (Google One is £8 a month, and MS365 family is also similar) or just sync stuff to my desktop or file server, with the failure rate I'd probably be saving money.

              P.S: And the music argument I saw doesn't work either for a smartphone, as you'd be using a DAP for FLACs and the like anyway (that's the only way I can see anyone approaching even close to 600GB without having nearly 100,000 songs on their phone, and at that point I'm not convinced having convenient access to the whole collection is even possible even if it's in one place). Smartphones don't really have the output power to cope with the type of headphones you may want to use with FLACs (high sensitivity could work for some, but they have their own downsides).

                Chaos X 1982, 30 Jun 2023That's a blatant lie by Cloud service companies to con... moreYeah and if you lose the phone, you lose the data inside.
                If it spoils, you lose the data too.
                If someone has your phone, they have access to your data of MicroSD.
                At least on cloud storage, even when the phone is lost, data can still be transferred.

                  Chaos X 1982, 30 Jun 2023It's not as fast as SD, and I don't Intent to buy... moreStop talking nonsense.

                    Chaos X 1982, 30 Jun 2023It's not as fast as SD, and I don't Intent to buy... moreI said spoof. No one said anything about buying a lame ahh Pixel.

                    Your problem for being braindead, sorry. Also if you care that your photos are being scanned for child abuse material - might as well send a warrant for your arrest now (as I can do that)?

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                      • Bzuco
                      • mr1
                      • 30 Jun 2023

                      Chaos X 1982, 30 Jun 2023That's a blatant lie by Cloud service companies to con... moreMicro SD card can also fails as any other memory chip or storage device. Cloud storage services have at least one backup copy of data.

                      When I record something on phone's internal storage or DSLR sdcard, I imediatelly transfer that data to PC or to external HDD as soon as possible to eliminate potential data loss problem.
                      It is good habit and I don't need to care about free space or why the new phone does not have sdcard slot.

                      From that reason I am not trying to force manufacturers include SDcard slot in mobile, because it doesn't add significant value to device it self. Those days when internal storage on flagship was just 16/32GB are gone.

                        Anonymous, 29 Jun 2023zenfone 9 in more colours with a new name? This more like zenfone 9T, slap the SD 8 gen 2 and wireless chrager then cut here and there. Tadaaa 🤣🤣

                          justasmile, 30 Jun 2023the other space is taken up by the gimbal, anyway that main... moreThe space is also taken up by the useless Wireless charging coil.

                            xslvrxslwt, 30 Jun 2023Yes, it is slow and expensive when your brain is also slow ... moreAlso, your reply just proves that you cloud supporters are only good at being rude and insulting people. The brains of SD card users are way faster and sharper and than you cloud people.

                              xslvrxslwt, 30 Jun 2023Yes, it is slow and expensive when your brain is also slow ... moreIt's not as fast as SD, and I don't Intent to buy a Pixel because the new AI chip is basically a spy.

                                justasmile, 30 Jun 2023Everything has their pros and cons. SD Cards are also less... moreThat's a blatant lie by Cloud service companies to con is into using their unreliable services. SD cards aren't connected to the internet, it way safter reliable.

                                  MRSTEK, 30 Jun 2023NAT traversal exists.Typo, I mean u can't NAS with u everywhere. And if I need to connect online to use it, it's not difference from Cloud. It still consumes data, SD doesn't consume any data

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • myU
                                    • 30 Jun 2023

                                    UK website have disabled "Pay by Card" option due to "too many fraudulent purchases."
                                    If you wish to pay by card you need to select the PayPal option then add the card in there.

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                                      • 30 Jun 2023

                                      3.5 mm enjoyer, 22 Jun 2023How can they continue to release a device without CDMA supp... moreBecause the rest of America/the world doesn't use it? All it would do is increase the price...and give something for everyone else to complain about

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • 3P9
                                        • 30 Jun 2023

                                        A bunch of downgrades such as no AF on selfie camera and ultrawide camera, no 4k recording either. The Zenfone 9 looks like a better option right now. Waiting for the Xperia 5 V