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- 23 Aug 2020
Anonymous, 23 Aug 2020... And possibly because a small phone is what they want an... moreGoogle was caught between chasing Apple's fanfare/base versus quality/display of Samsung phones...until Pixel 4a. Google has finally realized that now their software end has been sorted (and not just camera AI), they can focus on the hardware to supplement that experience, not the other way around. Market is flooded with glass backs and SD 855/65 processors and 64MP quad cameras. But at what cost? THAT is where Google finally has nailed it with 4a, understanding its limitations/mistake that resulted in mixed results from the 4XL. If you look carefully, not too many companies are going for 865s either because of how much cost prohibitive they are. Going forward this year, a 'lower end' processor--765--would pave the way for optimization of performance for Pixel 5 series. $349 is definitely savings account friendly and a $15/hr someone can afford without being locked into 24 months of paying for an expensive glass slab that might or might not get updates on time or could break on one drop and churn out $$ to repair. You can buy two 4a or SE 2020 and still not be set as backward as, say, if you were to lose or break one of those higher end flagships. That's what the market is dictating right now.
Here is another funny part: MOST Android or IOS users, after bickering amongst each other, settle down with their dog and cat posts on Insta, 20 seconds of limelight on TikTok, Facebook, and other content videos. These can be done with a 3GB ram phone as well as a 12GB ram phone. After a while...nothing matters, if you have a 1500 or a 150 phone. You won't keep it more than two years anyways. So, trying to argue one for the other is pointless and waste of time. Apple as a brand is global for sure, and Google is still working around its way to generate that kind of loyalty.
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- Anonymous
- I@a
- 23 Aug 2020
Anonymous, 23 Aug 2020Actually you got it all wrong. People don't install po... more... And possibly because a small phone is what they want and it's one of the unique selling 'features' of the Pixel phones as GCam and software updates alone don't sell anymore.
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- Anonymous
- I@a
- 23 Aug 2020
Anonymous, 23 Aug 2020Cameras are hardware!! i dont know why ppl think they get p... moreActually you got it all wrong. People don't install ported GCam's on their non-Pixel phones because they want a Pixel experience! That's the dumbest idea ever! They don't want a "poor man's" Pixel phone either if that's what you think. No, absolutely not.
Pixel phones have very good camera software (GCam) but have VERY LIMITED camera hardware - no ultrawide camera, no telephoto camera etc,., rending the GCam software, super-underutilized! Then there's also the issue of the official GCam's lack of access to advanced tweaks and settings, but which the GCam mods and ported GCam versions allow!
There's more to a phone than the camera software alone! Camera hardware (ultrawide, telephoto options) are also important which NO, I REPEAT, NO Pixel phone in existence currently offers!
And frankly, the crippled Pixel phone experience is not exactly desirable for most people. Only the GCam and software update support is good on Pixel phones.
Everything else is HORRIBLE! 128GB internal storage only with NO micro sd expansion? Really Google? 4K 60fps videos and other music and media files will fill it up quickly even before the phone gets outmodeled.
Then there's no headphone jack for top end Pixel models, a really stupidly low battery capacity, limited big screen options and with huge notches or punch holes, no dual SIM support (only eSIM which is non-existent in many countries), no smart share (wireless screen sharing of offline Netflix downloads), etc. That's the crippled Pixel experience!
That's the reason why very few buy Pixel phones and Google never learns or is so stubborn to correct that because of vested interests in cloud storage, bluetooth Pixel buds, and low battery capacity for rapid battery deterioration and hence rapid turnover/obsolescence of Pixel phones.
If phone use and experience would only be about camera and software updates, the Pixel phones would sell more than Samsung's super expensive flagship phones, but no, it won't - EVER because other than the GCam software and fast updates, everything about the overhyped Pixel experience is just that. Users find ways to get the best of both worlds. Since it is IMPOSSIBLE to get Pixels to have bigger batteries, micro sd storage and true dual SIM, people buy instead other phones and sideload the only thing that's appealing on the Pixel phones - GCam. And as a bonus, they get to use GCam with the second camera (ultrawide), tweak its settings to their heart's desire, while not losing micro sd expansion, bigger screen, bigger battery options, etc. And with Samsung phones now offering 3 year software updates to its flagship and upper midrange phones (A-series), there's absolutely ZERO LOGIC why anyone would buy a Pixel phone other than maybe because of the 'Google' brand name, which isn't exactly as appealing as 'Apple' or 'Samsung'.
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- Anonymous
- K6X
- 23 Aug 2020
Jasson, 21 Aug 2020Those complaint about the pricing must be really bad at pri... moreits country conversion. 380 sounds better than 599 perhaps, for plastic phone. Just buy what you can afford and meets your needs. Next year be Iphone 22 and Pixel 6A never ends tech. If your light user, and take 1 -2 photos a year of your cat maybe budget $150 phone better.
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- Anonymous
- K6X
- 23 Aug 2020
Anonymous, 21 Aug 2020i've using ported gcam for 2 years now. gcam isnt good... moreCameras are hardware!! i dont know why ppl think they get pixel experience using ported Gcam?. its like trying to get a cheap pixel phone.
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- Anonymous
- K6X
- 23 Aug 2020
Anonymous, 22 Aug 2020Exactly. 163.6 x 76 x 7.7 mm vs 144 x 69.4 x 8.2 mm I want... morewhat you talking about willis?? 4.7 is SE Size, this is 5.8 and its not big?. 4.7 need magnify glass.
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- Anonymous
- I@a
- 23 Aug 2020
Anonymous, 23 Aug 2020Then you've obviously used a FAULTY PORT that is not f... moreGCam mod for Pixel phones showing advanced settings:
https://youtu.be/47uzIuMKHp8
Gcam mod for Pixel phones vs. Original GCam for Pixel phones:
https://youtu.be/rl8Vq9Pagts
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- Anonymous
- I@a
- 23 Aug 2020
Anonymous, 22 Aug 2020Stop starting fights and being rude. I use a gcam port and ... moreThen you've obviously used a FAULTY PORT that is not fit for your phone! Just because a port you downloaded doesn't work for your phone doesn't mean ALL of them don't! As I mentioned, there are lots of many other ports! As many as the developers that port them for your phone especially if you have a popular snapdragon phone from Samsung or Xiaomi (like the Poco) and they work even for the secondary ULTRAWIDE camera which NO PIXEL phone has at the moment! Get it?
And YES, even PIXEL phones can have GCam mods/ GCam ports themselves which means Pixel users can have both the ORIGINAL GCam and the Moded/Ported GCam side by side on their PIXEL phones. Why bother with a port, when you have the original one? Because many people want control! They want the final output to be exactly how they like it, and not exactly how Google likes it. Is that so hard to digest? Why do people accessorize and jazz up their cars and replace perfectly functional tires and tire rims, lights, audio system and even their car's paint color when there is nothing wrong with their car? Individuality, control and customization! If you chose android over iOS, you should know that!
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- Anonymous
- sH2
- 22 Aug 2020
Anonymous, 21 Aug 2020Says who? Oh you naive Pixel users! GCam ports are actually... moreStop starting fights and being rude. I use a gcam port and it crashes a lot. They aren't deluded, they know what they are talking about, and clearly you don't.
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- Anonymous
- keN
- 22 Aug 2020
Vrabac, 21 Aug 2020It is funny how people compare this beautiful, small, light... moreExactly. 163.6 x 76 x 7.7 mm vs 144 x 69.4 x 8.2 mm
I want a phone that is easy to hold and fits in a pocket.
I’m actually geared for iPhone 12 even though I prefer android just because it’s a 5.4 inch screen and smaller than a typical iPhone 8/SE.
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- Anonymous
- I@a
- 22 Aug 2020
johngi, 20 Aug 2020gcam doesnt mean computational photography that you get in ... moreGCam whether the original one installed in Pixel phones or the ported versions for other phones, for as long as they are version 6.0+ above with Night Sight, use computational photography.
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- Anonymous
- I@a
- 22 Aug 2020
notafanboy, 21 Aug 2020Lol I'm not a Pixel user. Arguing with you is like arg... moreThen all the more reason why you shouldn't call people ignorant.
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- Anonymous
- I@a
- 22 Aug 2020
dbjungle, 21 Aug 2020I have GCam ports on multiple Xiaomi phones and I have a Pi... moreExactly as I mentioned. The GCam ports allow tinkering which means you can have photo output on all default settings, or BETTER yet, if you just spend some time studying and learning how those settings affect the final photo output, you can actually make the color response and photo processing truly your own style, attuned to exactly how you like it. It's like jazzing up one's car. You may end up with a jazzed up car that will look better than anyone else's or it may look worse to everyone else other than you.
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- mDP
- 21 Aug 2020
Anonymous, 21 Aug 2020Says who? Oh you naive Pixel users! GCam ports are actually... moreLol I'm not a Pixel user. Arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall.
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- dbjungle
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- 21 Aug 2020
Anonymous, 21 Aug 2020Says who? Oh you naive Pixel users! GCam ports are actually... moreI have GCam ports on multiple Xiaomi phones and I have a Pixel 4a and previously a 3a. I agree the ports can produce great results with a little effort however the Pixel phone will produce great results with no effort. On my 3a the pictures processed pretty slow, but the 4a seems quite snappy. The main thing I see with the GCam ports is that most of them require a bit of tinkering to get them to be serviceable.
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- Anonymous
- I@a
- 21 Aug 2020
notafanboy, 21 Aug 2020You don't understand much do you? The fact that it... moreSays who? Oh you naive Pixel users! GCam ports are actually better for users who know photography and want to tweak settings (that Google FORBIDS in the original GCam for Pixel phones) for them to get the FINAL photo output the user wants, not the FINAL photo output Google wants. And there are many ported versions compatible for a single phone each with customizable features and tweaked in many different ways as many as the developers that port them. I know you'll never be able to appreciate that as most Pixel owners are as naive as iphone users. They don't bother with customization settings.
- evilboy
- J6@
- 21 Aug 2020
Anonymous, 21 Aug 2020You're the one who's ignorant if you haven't... moredont have time for slideloading apks of ports if i can get the original gcam i am getting that phone
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- Anonymous
- wrY
- 21 Aug 2020
Anonymous, 21 Aug 2020*its users are too dumb to bother with any advanced or manu... morei've using ported gcam for 2 years now. gcam isnt good as pixel native gcam. the white balance is bad. highly optimized gcam for pixel still better than the ported gcam.
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- Anonymous
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- 21 Aug 2020
Anonymous, 20 Aug 2020So few comments. I guess people have lost interest in a pho... moregcam porting not as good as pixel native gcam. samsung full of bloatware. slowing overtime.
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- dbjungle
- 47L
- 21 Aug 2020
Anonymous, 18 Aug 2020Can you state where you got that from? Google themselves st... moreMine came in today. It's a 730G. All of the CPU details match my Redmi K30 which has a 730G.