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  • Dexter Morgan
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  • 20 Sep 2009

Anthony, 20 Sep 2009Phones are cheaper on contract all over the world not just ... moreI'm sure Leo will cost more than we can imagine.. Capacitive screens + Snapdragon chip is an expensive combination..

I'm not thinking of getting the Leo, I don't know why, but i feel that i should wait.. I'm not done with my HD and i feel it'll be months until i set my mind on something impressive as the HD when it came out.. XpPhone is something though.. :)

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    • LKm
    • 20 Sep 2009

    Nick, 20 Sep 2009I'm sick & tired of all these phone manufacturers includin... morePhones are cheaper on contract all over the world not just in the U.S.A. the thing is HTC seem to never send the good phones to U.S. carriers and when they do it is always an water down version. Just look what was done to the Pro 2 when it came to the U.S.
    Funny thing is, if the Leo cost $800 it will still be less than what I would have to pay for a Iphone which is going for $1000+ because I can’t get it on contract.

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      • Anthony
      • LKm
      • 20 Sep 2009

      Dexter Morgan, 20 Sep 2009So how did you know that if you go back to original Rom, yo... moreWell I tried flashing with no memory card in and it was still crashing.
      Then I told myself it must be one of my third party software so I didn’t install any and it still crashed. So all it could be is a bad rom but you were not having the problem, so it couldn’t be that.
      Then I remembered I tried miri rom and I said to myself “the only reason that dutty would say to hard reset twice after a flash is if sometimes drivers get left behind.
      So using logic..... This phone is running windows, and it is behaving like when you have driver conflict. and what do you do when a windows pc start to run like crap because allot of software was installed and uninstall and upgraded and things get too complicated to fix?
      You get the manufacture CD and you start over from scratch. So that is what I did. And luck me it worked. 16 hours later and it still has not crashed and all my 3rd party software is back on the phone.

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        • Nick
        • T3g
        • 20 Sep 2009

        I'm sick & tired of all these phone manufacturers including Htc. They never f..kin make PERFECT phone eventhough they can. They add one feature & take away two features. I was so excited about Leo at first……overall killing feature …2 led flash, 1ghz processor etc but under the hood only 1250 mah battery to run this monster. I don’t understand wats wrong with damn htc. ….at least they should have put 1500 mah.
        I was expecting resistive screen since I love to use stylus….now they come up with capacitive. Actually Htc already filed patent for capacitive stylus. But where’s this capacitive stylus then? Looking at pic of leo, I see stylus nowhere!

        Beside this, lets talk about price when this leo hits market. I'm sure its gonna cost you arm & leg. It will be $800 plus. Few months ago, I bought one back-up netbook for travelling. It cost me less than $500……with 32gb ssd, 2gbram, atom processor….not bad at all for the price. And of course it’s a laptop …far better than phone in terms of working & surfing. But why these so-called smart phones so expensive??? This is really ridiculous! At least iphone is way cheaper if you get one in contract. This is how it works in usa no matter wat phone u buy.

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          • Dexter Morgan
          • 0m3
          • 20 Sep 2009

          If the touchscreen in Leo is capacitive, then goodbye stylus..
          There will be no letter recognition or drawing..

          Since Windows 6.5 have lots of tiny boxes to check and tiny drop-down menus to select, no wonder the Leo comes with a 4.3" screen because accuracy will be harder in capacitive..

          Another observation, In capacitive screens when you touch a certain area in the phone, it will select a whole area of pixels, where in resistive screens it will select that very pixel you tapped..

          So i don't think Capacitive screens and Resistive screens are opponents, they are alternatives.. I think both are great!..

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            • Dexter Morgan
            • 0m3
            • 20 Sep 2009

            Coreplayer play Divx movies more smoothly in R4!! :P

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              • Dexter Morgan
              • 0m3
              • 20 Sep 2009

              Anthony, 20 Sep 2009the number stops at 25 but all your text are there. that ou... moreSo how did you know that if you go back to original Rom, you'd clean up things?.. Its a great tip but i wanna know if its a real solution..
              Cause its seemed to work with you.. :P

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                • Dexter Morgan
                • 0m3
                • 20 Sep 2009

                Saed102, 19 Sep 2009Dear Anthony and dexter: I'm back to R14 Do you know w... moreHow is R14 with you? Anything out of the ordinary?
                Cause i don't know whether to stay with R4 or not..

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                  • Dexter Morgan
                  • 0m3
                  • 20 Sep 2009

                  Saed102, 19 Sep 2009Dear Anthony and dexter: I'm back to R14 Do you know w... moreThe less data in TouhFlo, th more faster it will perform..

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                    • Anthony
                    • Rn@
                    • 20 Sep 2009

                    Saed102, 19 Sep 2009Dear Anthony and dexter: I'm back to R14 Do you know w... morethe number stops at 25 but all your text are there. that out there is just a preview. when you tap all messages below you see all your text. and if you delete one of the previews a next text will full the spot so it will still say 25.
                    It's the same for photo preview it stops at 99 but if you go in album you will see all your photos.

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                      • Saed102
                      • 3Y7
                      • 19 Sep 2009

                      Anthony, 19 Sep 2009what I have seen different from r3 to r4 is this.. when yo... moreDear Anthony and dexter:

                      I'm back to R14
                      Do you know why the maximum number of SMS messeges in the inbox is only 25?
                      Is there a way to increse this number?

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                        • Anthony
                        • Rn@
                        • 19 Sep 2009

                        Dexter Morgan, 19 Sep 2009What exactly are you doing when you flash R3 or R4? Did you... morewhat I have seen different from r3 to r4 is this..
                        when you tried to edit an existing contact in r3 it would take you to a blank screen (you would not see the fields with the contact info.) that was fixed in r4
                        in r3 there was a devider line missing in settings. that was fixed in r4.

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                          • Anthony
                          • Rn@
                          • 19 Sep 2009

                          Dexter Morgan, 19 Sep 2009What exactly are you doing when you flash R3 or R4? Did you... moreI did nothing different.
                          I flash all my roms the same way from day1 till now.
                          It's a bit different from how you do it but it has always worked without problem.
                          I would just download the rom to my pc, unzip it and run it right there with the phone in sync mode. the program does the rest.
                          but with r3 and r4 my phone was only crashing. and when it crashed, not even taking out the battery could get it to start again (it would stop on the booting screen) I would have to hard reset to get back in my phone.
                          I took out the memory card like you said but it was sill doing the same thing.
                          the only thing I could think was...... after r2 I tryed the miri rom and I did not like it (touchflo was only skin deep) so I went on to dutty r3 and that's when the crashing started.
                          but when you said you were not crashing and I was crashing in r4 as wel,l I knew it was not the rom.
                          you know when you flash they say you should hard reset because of drivers or somthing. that's when I said to my self maybe some part of miri rom got left back and its clashing with dutty rom.
                          that is why I flashed the original rom from the htc site and then flashed back the r4. it is about 9 hours now I'm back on r4 and I have not crashed. so I think I'm in the clear

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                            • Kilyjah
                            • jLy
                            • 19 Sep 2009

                            Dexter Morgan, 19 Sep 2009Oh ok! Yes you can.. :) Eid Mobarak!Capacitive=overated

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                              • Saed102
                              • 3Y7
                              • 19 Sep 2009

                              Dexter Morgan, 19 Sep 2009Oh ok! Yes you can.. :) Eid Mobarak!Eid Mubarak to you too. You beat me to it :)

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                                • Dexter Morgan
                                • mJe
                                • 19 Sep 2009

                                Saed102, 19 Sep 2009cab file which come with evry ROM. R14 didn't come with the... moreOh ok! Yes you can.. :)
                                Eid Mobarak!

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                                  • Saed102
                                  • 3Y7
                                  • 19 Sep 2009

                                  Dexter Morgan, 19 Sep 2009Which cab file?cab file which come with evry ROM. R14 didn't come with these files. They come in The Repository folder

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                                    • Dexter Morgan
                                    • mJe
                                    • 19 Sep 2009

                                    Anthony , 19 Sep 2009ok guys. i had an idea to give r4 one more try on my hd. i... moreWhat exactly are you doing when you flash R3 or R4? Did you delete the Autoinstall folder? Do you have more than 50 sms?
                                    I didn't think you had to flash official rom to get rid of issues..

                                    I'm in R4 now, haven't noticed a difference yet, the sms opens faster though..

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                                      • Dexter Morgan
                                      • mJe
                                      • 19 Sep 2009

                                      Saed102, 19 Sep 2009Is it ok if I use the cab file came with R13 for R14?Which cab file?

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                                        • Saed102
                                        • 3Y7
                                        • 19 Sep 2009

                                        Anthony , 19 Sep 2009ok guys. i had an idea to give r4 one more try on my hd. i... moreIs it ok if I use the cab file came with R13 for R14?