Huawei Mate 60 Pro
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- Vinshoy
- uty
- 22 Oct 2023
Hello when we can get this mobile in UAE.
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- Guest whooooo
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- 22 Oct 2023
Vinaigre, 21 Oct 2023Yes it could be funny if they start to ban Apple in China.banning Apple would directly send a very strong message to the US, as Apple sales are dwindling down due to their, lack of innovation, worsening phone quality, and other problems not to mention the freaking expensive price. Banning Apple in China would hit apple very hard and will send the US into panic and fireback mode.
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- 3g5
- 21 Oct 2023
Guest whooooo, 21 Oct 2023That is also my thought, the US just impose another ban on ... moreYes it could be funny if they start to ban Apple in China.
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- 21 Oct 2023
Anonymous, 21 Oct 2023I would also like to learn more about how they did it, but ... moreThat is also my thought, the US just impose another ban on China, citing again the most BS reason I have ever heard in my entire life "Their non - sense security", but China fired back by limiting exports of lithium battery components, hopefully forcing more consequences to the US, and you are right keeping us in the dark is much more favorable and they have to keep it a secret to avoid US jealousy from reaching their labs, I am really hoping that China would totally ban Apple and push a campaign to purchase local brands, after all China is known for their international phone brands, albeit some of this brands have questionable quality like on Xioami and POCO phones. If Chinese people want good camera, Huawei is always their, plus China does not need GMS, as google left China a long time ago.
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- 21 Oct 2023
manila, 16 Oct 2023kirin 9000s instructed 14nm not 7nmvery nice ang i like the huaei mate 60 pro
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- Anonymous
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- 21 Oct 2023
Guest whooooo, 21 Oct 2023Well, I am starting to believe that the US just install a p... moreI would also like to learn more about how they did it, but I don't think we will be getting any official news for a good while. Whether their progress is unstoppable or not, the semiconductor supply chain is massive, with contributions from many countries around the world. It is incredibly unlikely that all materials and equipment used to produce the chips are available domestically. So even if the US can't stop their progress, they can still be a thorn in the side. Anything they say can only help the US find ways to hinder them, so they probably think it's better to be safe than sorry. After all, they have no obligation to tell us anything, and everything the average consumer needs to know about the chip is already available online.
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- 21 Oct 2023
Jongjave, 21 Oct 2023Its just speculation from Japanese firm CEO, of course. Jap... moreWell, I am starting to believe that the US just install a puppet/pro American government in Japan, but I really wonder is why Huawei is keeping their Chip so secretive, after all if most of its parts are homegrown, the US will have to kneel down to their Gods if they really want to halt Huawei's development.
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- 21 Oct 2023
The USA government slapped a ban on Huawei as their domestic chipset (Intel and Qualcomm) and smartphone (Apple) industries are threatened by Huawei's presence and success in the past. Huawei rose to the apex due to its willingness to invest a lot in the R&D area and implement them.
Kirin chipset enabled Huawei tight integration into their ecosystem, similar to what Apple was trying to do. However, Apple has more control given their ARM licensing deal is the highest tier, which enabled Apple to design its own chipset without following ARM design. Hence, their Axx and Mxx series with their own CPU and GPU infrastructure. Huawei took the second-tier licensing deal, which is similar to Qualcomm, which means they're still tied to ARM reference design.
Despite this, Huawei has the advantage of its telco and networking hardware divisions. Kirin 990 was the first 7nm chipset with an integrated 5G modem in its SoC. Not even Qualcomm and Apple managed this. SD865 used a separate 5G modem, and due to this, the efficiency was lower. Qualcomm felt threatened by the HiSilicon's success. Huawei also rose to the top of the smartphone business, about to displace Samsung as the biggest smartphone maker globally. At the same time, in the same period, another American chip giant, Intel stagnated. Stuck in the 10nm design, and couldn't go beyond. Rumours were saying that Intel 10nm was actually on par with TSMC 7nm (by transistors numbers) but they couldn't dissipate the heat effectively enough.
Without being stopped, what would happen if in the future, Huawei entered the IoT/servers/PC/EV industry, becoming a rival to these US companies, especially in proxy countries like in Africa or Asia?
These were the catalysts and were perceived as a threat by the USA government. This is all about maintaining a global hegemony (power, money, politics).
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- 21 Oct 2023
Guest whooooo, 18 Oct 2023For clarification, this phone was said to have a 14nm chip ... moreIts just speculation from Japanese firm CEO, of course. Japan is US ally in tech war against China. There is another tipster sayin it based on 5nm tech. Well since SMIC and huwaei keep it secret. Unless there is an official statement, everyone can say what they want.. hahaha
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- u7V
- 20 Oct 2023
hi which one is better is it the p 40 pro plus pr the mate
60 pro as the optical zoom & digital zoom and together
with the 7680fps super slow motion is what am looking
for to be specific and so which has better optical zoom
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- Anonymous
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- 20 Oct 2023
manila, 19 Oct 2023also 9000s have 12 cores not only 8 cores8 but have multi-thread in some cores like Intel HT or AMD SMT.
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- manila
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- 19 Oct 2023
also 9000s have 12 cores not only 8 cores
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- Anonymous
- XkN
- 19 Oct 2023
BMHater12, 18 Oct 2023How do you even manage to buy the phone when it's not ... moreThere are sites where you can order the Chinese version it and they will ship internationally. However, since Huawei has not released this phone globally, you would only be able to buy it from third party sellers. If you want to buy from Huawei directly, you will need to travel to China and order it there or have someone do so on your behalf.
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- 18 Oct 2023
Teutonic, 08 Oct 2023After couple of days of usage, I can say it is excellent mo... moreHow do you even manage to buy the phone when it's not coming globally?
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- 18 Oct 2023
FunnyZa, 14 Oct 2023The thing I love is that it looks like a HONOR X9A with bet... moreThere's a special setting that gives the triple punch hole a pill, it's from the display settings
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- Guest whooooo
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- 18 Oct 2023
For clarification, this phone was said to have a 14nm chip and Huawei made some techniques to give the 14nm chip, a 7nm performance. 14nm is an old tech, but we all knew that what real matters is the phone's performance, if this phone can perform decently without heating up to much, like Apples very BS a17 pro that overheats like a pro and 1mm titanium for marketing and elevated price, the performance is good, but the overheating is very good. I just hope Huawei does not end up like that.
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- Guest whooooo
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- 18 Oct 2023
manila, 16 Oct 2023kirin 9000s instructed 14nm not 7nmTrue, but I really want to see this chip vs its predecessor, the kirin 9000
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- Anonymous
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- 18 Oct 2023
AnonD-1121798, 12 Oct 2023Powerstar P3-01105 - rebranded chip
https://www.eastasia... moreThe powerstar chip has nothing to do with this phone. Undoubtedly there are copycat products in China but that doesn't mean everything in China is copied. If you want to claim that this phone was made using copied components (as you did in your original comment which has since been deleted), then you need to provide evidence for those components specifically.
I read the first article very briefly and it touches on a bunch of topics that it would take an essay to address properly. I will just generally say this: China is not a not a perfect country, it has problems like every other one. If there is a perfect utopia out there, please let me know; I would love to move there. That being said, a lot of the challenges it faces are not unique to China itself. Housing issues, decreased consumption, and unemployment is a problem just about everywhere right now, thanks to the mess that is the global economy. The West tried what they believe to be a solution and ended up with another mess. China is trying a different way in attempt to avoid the issues the West now faces. Will they succeed or fail? We will just have to wait and see; considering that they are traveling a path nobody else has before, I don't think anyone truly knows. Anyone trying to convince you otherwise (like those "China will collapse in X days" videos) probably has an agenda.
I didn't read the second article because it requires you to log in and I don't have (nor do I want to register for) an account. I have, however watched many of bloomberg's videos on youtube regarding this phone and I haven't heard them mention anything about designs for chips in this phone being stolen. What I do know is that there is controversy surrounding the SK Hynix RAM, and until we get official statements and real evidence that Huawei found a way to purchase this component after the sanctions hit, they very well could just be using old stock they had from before the sanctions.
I'm not really sure what you mean by "everyone knows that China is going down hill". If you follow people who actually visit China (for example on youtube), they do not look like they think China is going down hill. There will always be doomers and sometimes the points they raise have merit, but always consider the opposite opinion as well before coming to a conclusion.
- Vinaigre
- 3g5
- 18 Oct 2023
thubleau, 14 Oct 2023wow!!! $2,100 Au is it worth the extra $1,000AU over the Xa... moreXiaomi?
You cannot compare this crap with a flagship phone.
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- manila
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- 16 Oct 2023
kirin 9000s instructed 14nm not 7nm