LG V20

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• 12 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018The V20's selfie camera is a native 5 megapixel f/1.9 ultra... moreEither wide angle or regular both look disgusting. I thought my hand was shaking but it's the same even with tripod. Looks painting, Unnatural alien.
The main camera produces natural colours but it's a hit or miss it overexpose specially during the day.
My friend mid range huawei produces more accurate colours.
I think the phone also have problem with display i can see gray patch at the right hand corner just below the always on screen.
I bought this last moth and im planning to return it. But they are going to charge me for restocking fee.
Sad i though t this phone was really nice . but the camera and display was a let down.
The sound was really good hands down. But im still not happy with my purchase a bit disappointment

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• Anonymous
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• 12 Jun 2018

Also, when you do selfie shots with the V20, be sure to move the 'beauty slider' fully to the left for 'level 0' blurring/beauty effect. Moving it fully to the right (maximum level 8 blurring) while making your face look smooth on a mobile phone or smaller screens, will actually make you look like an alien from outer space when the selfie shot with level 8 maximum beauty mode is viewed on a calibrated 4k computer monitor. This is probably what you are seeing in the V20 selfie shots.

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• Anonymous
• IW@
• 12 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018The V20's selfie camera is a native 5 megapixel f/1.9 ultra... moreI mean 'ultrawide shot'.

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• Anonymous
• IW@
• 12 Jun 2018

Edward, 12 Jun 2018Is the front camera really looks bad? My face looks washed ... moreThe V20's selfie camera is a native 5 megapixel f/1.9 ultrawide shooter. However, there are two modes: regular wideangle and ultrawide angle. The 5 megapixel ultrawide will outperform your 2 megapixel camera phone anytime, anywhere, bright sunlight or low light unless you look at the output in a small mobile phone screen in which case, you won't notice much difference. The regular wideangle shot however may not be as good as tge ultrawide shit because it is simply a crop (digital zoom) of the ultrawide angle shot. If you do selfies with a large group, the V20's selfie camera will be good enough. However, if you like solo selfies more, then better look for 'portrait' selfie specialist camera phones that can do the job better.

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• Edward
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• 12 Jun 2018

Is the front camera really looks bad? My face looks washed out and grainy even in outdoor. My old 2 megapixel camera phone produces more vibrant capture. And other 5 megapixel camera looks way ahead night and day.

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• Anonymous
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• 12 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018Yeah we get it, basically you're saying everything the v20 ... moreIf there's anyone biased here it's you. You discount the V20's multitude of features as nothing special but state that 'wireless charging' is super convenient, waterproofing and Amoled screen is beyond compare to the V20's 'lowly' FM radio, ir blaster, shock resistance, slimport, dedicated sd card slot, etc which none of your s7 and all recent flagships have. When I retaliate by telling youbthe truth about amoleds, how its oversaturated inaccurate color is pleasing and how it has superior black level at the expense of permanent screen burn and reliability issues (pink/magenta bars), shorter life span than ips LCD, you cry like a baby. Well I tell you what: amoled is better than ips in the short term. You will never see its ugly side because you will never see it last long enough to compare it with ips displays that stand the test of time. But then again, the argument is immaterial. Amoled is popular in phones because many replace phones every year or two anyway. Microled is the future not amoled.

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• Anonymous
• 4Ax
• 12 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018Bottomline, waterproofing like wireless charging is overhyp... moreYeah we get it, basically you're saying everything the v20 has is great, and everything it doesn't have is a useless gimmick, typical fanboy biased opinion. Like I said, if the V20 did have wireless charging then you'd be harping about how great wireless charging is, you're only against it because the v20 doesn't have it.

The fact that you even think the screen retention is acceptable on the basis that amoled is worse it just ridiculous. Why do you think all top tier phones use amoled and/or will be using amoled screens very soon? Because for phones it's better. Why do smartwatches also use amoled screens? Because in smartwatches it's better. I've had three phones with amoled screens and never had a problem. Sure I've believe there are cases of burn in but just like how you think "all phones with sealed batteries are disposable" you think all phones with amoled screens will suffer from burn in. Again not true. The only problem I've had with a screen in my phone was my LG and it's ever worsening screen retention and the 15" LG screen in my Macbook Pro retina also has the same problem but not as bad as the G4. Again, if the v20 had a amoled screen then you'd be screaming at the top of your lungs about how great and superior amoled screens are.

Can't you see just how bias you are?

The v20 is a great phone on paper because it's got this and this and that but then you go to the store and actually hold one and use it it's disappointing. Look at the core features most consumers look for: screen, battery life, camera, memory and the v20 only excels in two of those four core features (camera, memory). This is where the V20 fails, like it or not. Just because you can swap batteries doesn't make it acceptable to have bad battery life, either. The screen is just a screen, nothing special, can possibly develop LG's infamous screen retention and it's even dimmer than the G4's. How are you going to twist that into an advantage?

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• Anonymous
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• 12 Jun 2018

Bottomline, waterproofing like wireless charging is overhyped in today's 'modern' phones. They are nice to have but certainly, not better than removable batteries, dedicated sd card slots, drop resistance, ir blaster and FM radio.

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• Anonymous
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• 12 Jun 2018

I'd like to add: Don't buy those waterproofing V20 cases. Not only are they ugly, they also give you false hopes about true longterm waterproofing performance. The waterproofing protection they offer is no different from what ip68 waterproof phones can offer if the seals are not replaced regularly.

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• Anonymous
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• 12 Jun 2018

The truth about waterproofing:
Rubber seals need to be replaced regularly.
Phone should not be used under any shower: hot or cold shower, during swimming, or under running faucet water. Why? because manufacturer will not honor any form of water damage. Condensation can happen when water vapor leaks inside worn out seals and worse, circuit damage can happen especially since batteries in today's 'modern' phones are no longer removable. UV radiation from direct, reflected, or diffused sunlight and hot temperatures generated from wireless charging/fast charging accelerates damage/wear/oxidation to the seals making them shrink, crack, become brittle or leaky in as little as a few months to a year's time. Chlorinated water in a shower, faucet and swimming pool, and salt water at the beach does the same oxidation/accelerated wear to the seals making them brittle, cracked, shrunk and leaky. Bottom line: If you can't live without waterproofing in a phone, chances are are, you already have if you haven't replaced those waterproofing seals regularly. Besides, if you can live without waterproofing in a laptop, tablet, PSP, and other portable gaming consoles/gadgets/devices without waterproofing, there's no reason why you can't do the same with phones.

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• Rimac
• 0vc
• 12 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 12 Jun 2018It's amazing how you go on to great lengths still insisting... moreThose owners of phones with powerful processors instead of the widest operativity, disenchanted at last, don't hesitate to discredit the V20. Poor minds.

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• Anonymous
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• 12 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 11 Jun 2018"Just admit it. Your Samsung S7 doesn't even have half of w... moreIt's amazing how you go on to great lengths still insisting the V20's features are irrelevant. You insist all sd card slots in any form (dedicated or hybrid) are the same. Well, they are not and they will never be the same. You divert the topic by mentioning variants of the V20. I'm talking about the H990DS. Why, did I ever mention the 'dual sim' of the V20 as an advantage over other flagships with single sim variants? Did I mention it being 'unlocked' as an advantage? Stop diverting the topic. Give me an S7 variant with dedicated sd card slot rather than telling me not all V20 variants have dedicated sd card slot. And while you're at it, give me an S7, whatever variant: Chinese market, Korean market, international, US, European market, etc. that offers MIL-STD-810G compliance (drop resistance), that has FM radio that you can really play back and is not disabled, and IR blaster, slimport, removable battery, etc. Or just accept it already instead of telling me only 7 out of 8 V20 variants have an FM radio as one out of 8 has it disabled by the carrier.

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• Anonymous
• 4xi
• 11 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 11 Jun 2018Just admit it. Your Samsung S7 doesn't even have half of wh... more"Just admit it. Your Samsung S7 doesn't even have half of what the V20 has in features."
I do not own a s7, I use the phone as an example to show that there were phones released in the same year as the v20 with at least half the features you claimed to be unique to the v20.

"Dedicated sd card slot is not the same as the stupid hybrid slot. "
The s7 has an sd card slot, I don't know why you keep pushing this idea that hybrid makes it less of a slot for an sd card? If a phone has an sd card slot, then it accepts micro sd. End of story for that "unique" feature.

"You can't have dual SIM functionality and still have 400gb sd card expansion"
The v20 doesn't have dual sim on all the models, only the two international ones, which are not priced the same as the common non dual models sold everywhere. If you're to compare the international models of the v20 to other phones, then its price point doesn't make it "1/3 the price of current flagships" anymore.

"Drop resistance is important because more phones die from drops than from wetting. A good casing in a phone with drop resistance assures an almost 100% survival rate even from severe drops."
If a user is expecting "severe drops" then that user would invest in a case regardless if a phone is advertised with drop resistance. The LG v20 is not all aluminum, the rear camera has a glass cover that's more prone to shattering than the rest of the case giving out. That already is reason enough to invest in a case for the v20, despite its drop resistance, because of the higher chance of damaging the back camera.

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• Anonymous
• IW@
• 11 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 11 Jun 20182. There is a sd card slot for the samsung s7? 3. It has F... moreJust admit it. Your Samsung S7 doesn't even have half of what the V20 has in features. Dedicated sd card slot is not the same as the stupid hybrid slot. You can't have dual SIM functionality and still have 400gb sd card expansion. Drop resistance is important because more phones die from drops than from wetting. A good casing in a phone with drop resistance assures an almost 100% survival rate even from severe drops. That's a lot more useful and more important than the much hyped waterproofing.

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• Anonymous
• 4xi
• 11 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 08 Jun 2018Samsung S7: 1. No IR blaster 2. No dedicated sd card slo... more2. There is a sd card slot for the samsung s7?
3. It has FM radio, it was soft disabled until fall of 2016.
4. Drop resistance - Unless you are a klutz, the s7 can withstand drops an average user may experience in their lifetime with the phone
7. "No high quality audio playback/recording, photo/video: TIE" - ??? Any phone can be advertised with high quality "feature set here," that's just pure marketing. You would need technical specs to distinguish the actual quality of a feature.
8. Edge version has second screen.
11. "Costs more" - depends, if you look today on ebay, a v20 is priced similarly to the s7. Though I do not consider cost something unique to the v20 either, Oneplus normally excels in competitive pricing while offering a quality phone compared to brand name popular flagships.

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• Rimac
• 0vc
• 11 Jun 2018

I have visited the forums of the competition. Boredom, disinterest, dispassion . . . , but motivation to discredit the V20. Shocking.

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• Anonymous
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• 11 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 10 Jun 2018It's amazing the extent you go to to prove to the world tha... moreThe suggestions to minimize/eliminate any traces of lag I mentioned work for any Android phone, not just the V20. Of course, you don't have to do it if you are not experiencing any lag problems or if you like the default 'slow' Android interface with sluggish animations. I don't and many people don't. At least in Android, you can change animation speeds, etc. and you can even eliminate it altogether.

Planned obsolescence is very real. Manufacturers are slowly crippling phones - removing long-term and lasting features (FM radio, IR blaster, removable batteries, dedicated sd storage, etc.); features that make you still use and hold on to your old phone despite it already being outdated in processor speed, camera or Android version. In exchange, manufacturers put on short term flashy features that are absolutely WORTHLESS from the stand point of longevity - wireless charging (slow and accelerates battery wear; inferior to removable batteries with external charging option), waterproofing (which the manufacturer doesn't offer any warranty for and which becomes worthless in a year's time with the seals becoming brittle and needing regular replacement) and curved elongated 18:9 NarrowView amoled screens which add a modern, futuristic look but otherwise make the screen a fracture magnet and making the unwanted touch experience incredibly annoying. Then there's improvements that while nice technological developments (iris scan, face id, under screen fingerprint sensor), are really just alternative methods of authentication and do not render the regular fingerprint scanner slow or inferior in comparison.

You keep on stating that the overall experience is more important than features. Well I tell you, much of the positive experience about the V20 is because of its multitude of features that are truly geared to make it long lasting and truly versatile and smart. The bragging rights satisfaction and experience you are talking about cannot be quantified and so that is why people prefer to buy flagship Samsungs and iPhones even if their amoled screens or batteries wear out or die faster than you could pay for the 2-year monthly amortization, because well, the experience of bragging a new popular brand flagship phone is quite addictive. Never mind if its disposable and is replaced with a newer, even more crippled model year after year.

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• Rimac
• 0vc
• 10 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 10 Jun 2018It's amazing the extent you go to to prove to the world tha... moreOf an iPhone, Samsung or whatever phone you can change the battery, loosing the waterproofing, but not their amperage.

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• Anonymous
• 4Ax
• 10 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 10 Jun 2018Because the battery of the 2012 Lenovo P770 is removable, y... moreIt's amazing the extent you go to to prove to the world that you bought the best phone. I already said more features doesn't mean better phone and what do you do? Blah blah blah more about features. Why can't you quantify user experience? The fact that people complain about lag or slowdown then you give them intricate instructions like forcing gpu and stopping apps from redrawing over other apps. Doesn't sound like a very good experience when you have to overwork it or cripple it or both to get the desired experience.

Despite everything you say about planned obsolescence i'm sure by 2020 there will be a higher percentage of iPhone 7's in use than v20's.

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• Anonymous
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• 10 Jun 2018

Anonymous, 10 Jun 2018Same with curved edge Samsung flagship phones. I've seen on... moreBecause the battery of the 2012 Lenovo P770 is removable, you can also get one with 4000mAh even at present. It's on ebay for so cheap. Again, the phone is a 2012 model with dual sim, dedicated sd card slot, 4.5" ips lcd screen but with HUGE removable battery up to 4000mAh (fits as well as the original 3500mAh removable battery without having to place a 3rd party back cover).

If a smartphone from 2012 can have a 3500mAh to up to 4000mAh REMOVABLE battery, why can't a modern 2018 flagship have it? Simple really... Planned obsolescence.

A 2012 smartphone with removable battery feature is still alive and in use by lots of users (how else would anybody explain why Lenovo P770 non OEM batteries are still available up to now if there's no demand for them)?

Years from now, the same will happen to the last flagship with removable battery - the 2016 LG V20. Keep yours while they last.
And don't worry about batteries. For sure, just like the 2012 Lenovo P770, you'll still have lots of 3rd party ones (non OEM) available for sale years from now.

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