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Muzik, 27 May 2021I agree on LG price drop part. They drop the price like a z... moreFirst, thanks for such detailed battery performance test under different scenarios. I appreciate your effort of writing in such detail. Makes every use case scenarios very clear.

It's true prices of LG flagships fall like stone. The LG G7+ was maybe launched at INR 40K in India but Flipkart were selling them brand new for just INR 15.5K during Mar, 2020 sale. I bought one, brand new sealed pack with accessories like braided cabled headphones, wall charger & USB cable. No accessory was missing in the box. However by that time I already had two LG V30+ and I liked that phone more than G7+. You may call it my personal preference. A week after sold the G7+ to one of my friends. Anyway I was quite impressed with G7+, the LCD display was awesome, even though a bit narrow for my liking.

The Sabre ES9218P audio chip better know as LG's Quad DAC was a custom design made by ESS for LG. The QuadDAC was designed & built by ESS in accordance to LG's requirement in having the option to tweak at hardware level to attain desired sound signature by sound tuning houses. Different types a digital filters can be applied and custom discrete circuitry can be implemented along the input stage of QuadDAC.

This is where famous audio houses like Bang & Olufsen (B&O) and Meridian Audio comes into picture. LG then made partnership with these famous tuning houses so as to custom tune QuadDAC in the phone's hardware level and attain their signature sound. This led the same QuadDAC to have drastically different sound signatures depending upon who tuned it. Look no further than B&O tuned LG V30+ & Meridian tuned LG G8X. Same high fidelity sound with sound signatures that are poles apart. So V30+ and G8X have a certain flavor in the sound, which are distinct and I love both. G7+ was tuned by LG, so it had different sound signature, though very close to B&O.

The LG V60 had ES9219, which is knocked down version of the legendary ES9218P, with no custom tuning option and reduced BOM cost. ES9218P was the real QuadDAC powering G6, V30, G7, V35, V40, G8, V50, V50S, G8X devices.

Regarding the deal between LG India & Walmart backed Flipkart and how insane low prices they can offer on LG devices, its all down to money. It is of no secret LG India's annual sales were very poor if Flipkart does not comes to rescue. Now coming down to core business, from Flipkart side they want a sell a INR 70K flagship mobile for INR 20K during sale period which will garner huge media attention and pull a lot of prospective buyers. But any healthy and profit making mobile phone manufacturer will not do this as it will devalue its brand image. So Samsung, Apple and even Chinese manufacturers like Vivo, Oppo will not do it.

So Flipkart targets LG, as it a very good manufacturer with product quality as good as Samsung but in eternal loss making cycles. During the Oct, 2020 Diwali sale Flipkart wrote cheques of crores of rupees to LG India to start LG G8X production on full scale in their Vietnam factory. On the 1st sale of Flipkart Big Billion Days on 16th Oct, 2020 Flipkart sold whopping 1.50 lakhs units of G8X at insane INR 20K and made business of INR 350 crores within the 12 hrs of sale. Provided G8X sale was such a huge hit and was available in Flipkart till this month, I will not be surprised if that that model only did some INR 2000 crore business in India. In the end both parties made healthy profit and created a very special relationship.

Off topic, recently I got hold of a budget LG K42 @ INR 7200. I am so impressed. If you judge a phone by user experience & in hand feel rather than just raw performance, the K42 delivers. This is where similarly priced budget Chinese phones falls behind.

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    • Muzik
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    • 27 May 2021

    RishiGuru, 26 May 2021I don't know... LG prices drop like hell. In Jan 2... moreI agree on LG price drop part. They drop the price like a zero value. Same happened with me also. I brought LG G7+ Thinq at the price on 40K during launch. Later, it dropped to 28K after 8-9 months. To be very true, I didn't mind price dropping and never regret the purchase. I got what i wanted at that time. I dont know whats the deal between Flipkart and LG regarding price but one thing is sure that they remove many things when price down. Like 28K G7+ didn't came with Headphone and 7/10 people who had purchased later were facing screen bleeding or low battery issues. I think they sold returned products after repacking.
    3.5 mm jack wont make any difference as it lacks on hardware part (Quad DAC) is well. It has just average sound. Even Velvet have better sound than this.
    Battery part is also count as just average. I experienced some positive and negative points.
    +ve:
    1. I continuously opened the camera app for almost 4 hours as i was trying to capture bird movements. It was earlier 98% after shoot it was 41% which is good according to me.
    2. I got 4-5 hours of Freefire in mid graphics.
    3. I watched continues movies while doing multitasking (Gmail/yahoo etc) for 6 hrs almost and battery status was 81% to 9% which is good.
    4. I tried to run back up from G-Drive which took almost 5 hrs and battery drains from 66% to 12%.

    -Ve:
    1. While watching movies from Netflix with Bluetooth, It drains from 91% to 9% in just one movie.
    2. Call time is not great. I noticed after a multiple calls that on an average of 1 hr talk, It consumes 15% of the battery.
    3. Google maps (Navigation) consumes most battery 2.5 hrs and it went down from 99% to 32%.
    4. Dual screen consumes much more battery than I expected. Didn't have data but I just realised that.

    After 5 days, My bro came and collected his gift. :D I dont have this mobile anymore.

    But still, I am quite satisfied for 30K price.

      Muzik, 25 May 2021250$?? You mean INR 20000 ... Man.. this mobile is not that... moreI don't know... LG prices drop like hell.

      In Jan 2019, I bought a brand new LG V30+ @ INR 11.7K ($156) from Flipkart without exchange. That phone was launched in Jan, 2018 for INR 45K ($600).

      In Oct 2020, I bought a brand new LG G8X with Dual Screen case slapped in for INR 18K ($245) from the same online retailer. This phone was launched in India, Jan 2020 for INR 50K ($640). In both above cases I received 10% flat instant discount with card offers.

      LG Wing was launched in Oct, 2020 (India) for INR 70K. The price was set higher due to innovative design concept, which never got to masses until recent monumental price drop to INR 30K. But the actual BOM cost of the device is maybe around INR 15K max. So they can sell Wing for INR 25K and still retain a healthy INR 10K profit, 50:50 distributed between LG & Flipkart. I am not considering and development cost of the device, as LG mobile division is closing down. LG just want to clear the hardware stockpile with a little profit margin.

      But I don't think this phone will ever drop below the INR 25K price point. That's why I said if it gets an insane price drop of INR 20K, I am going to break my mental barrier of having a phone without audio jack and buy one instead. :)

      By the way ... how is the battery backup of the LG Wing? Does it take you through a day with normal use? Or do you need to charge twice a day? Finding a lot of negative comments regarding battery backup on Youtube. Thanks in advance!!!

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        • 25 May 2021

        RishiGuru, 25 May 2021I don't think we will have the LG V60 available in Ind... more250$?? You mean INR 20000 ... Man.. this mobile is not that low according to me. I really like camera part, it is super cool in manual mode with Raw capabilities and full resolution. I think, 20k will be too low.

          Muzik, 27 Apr 2021Hi Arnold, Thanks for the suggestion. I also want to purcha... moreI don't think we will have the LG V60 available in India with the company shutting down the smartphone business. LG is just clearing the stock they have now.

          I would have gone for LG Wing, but this is their 1st Gen concept available for the masses. Lot of rough edges like the LG V50 with the first implementation of Dual Screen. The 2nd generation Dual Screen's like in LG G8X is so much improved with tonnes of user feedback from the 1st Gen V50. Same goes for Wing concept, but alas we will never see it.

          Lack of proper audio jack also compounds this issue, however if the price in India falls down to an insane $250 I may get one.

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            • Anonymous
            • B$T
            • 24 May 2021

            The phone is a good phone but sometimes in certain areas don't do well.

              Raj, 06 May 2021Is this good mobile...? Any service centres available at a... moreThis is a DSLR replacement which also acts as a phone. So camera is great. But everything else is decent enough. Service centres are available everywhere in every district headquarters at least. You will look like Tony stark if you use it

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                • 20 May 2021

                Hello All,

                I need help. Can anyone tell me his/her experience on tower reception. I am using Vodafone sim in Delhi India and the tower reception is not good. Not sure whether this is a problem in phone or Vodafone

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                  • BHARATH writr
                  • U@G
                  • 17 May 2021

                  Lg wing is a good phone but battery is average nd sound quality with no stereo speakers is boring
                  Camera is awesome even performances is good

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                    • Raj
                    • YQQ
                    • 06 May 2021

                    Is this good mobile...?
                    Any service centres available at any areas or backdrop

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                      • 27 Apr 2021

                      Arnold M Xavier, 26 Apr 2021Go for LG v60 it will get up to Android 13 in the futureHi Arnold, Thanks for the suggestion. I also want to purchase V60 but it is not available in India till now. And purchasing from extrrnal source can cost amost double. No doubt, V60 is holds everything i need. Thanks

                        Muzik, 23 Apr 2021Yes, I mentioned in my previous comments thay may be I will... moreGo for LG v60 it will get up to Android 13 in the future

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                          • Anonymous
                          • YTx
                          • 24 Apr 2021

                          Hope LG can make a comeback in the future if they decide to, you know, start making phones again. Until then, I will be switching to Sony Xperia in the meantime. Hope the Xperia 1 III doesn't disappoint.

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                            • 23 Apr 2021

                            RishiGuru, 23 Apr 2021You are most welcome. If you don't like Chinese pho... moreYes, I mentioned in my previous comments thay may be I will go for Asus Rog 5. There is no doubt that it will be a true upgrade with G7+. I still have doubts about sound quality compare to LG because LG DAC used 32bit/192k harware system and Rog 5 used 24bit. It will take time and hard efforts to beat LG in sound department. But sure, once 256GB variant available in India, i will go for it. And rumors says ZenFone 8 will be packed with 32bit audio chip. Lets see what will come in future. I can wait because if this info is ture, it is worth waiting for. Addiing to that, Rog 5 is beast in every expect.

                              Muzik, 21 Apr 2021I totally agree with your points. Yes, Velvet can slay all ... moreYou are most welcome.

                              If you don't like Chinese phones, you may have a look at Asus ROG Phone 5. It has got real fire power when it comes to headphone audio with a proper 3.5mm audio jack. This is what GSMArena has to say:

                              "Fans rejoice, after a hiatus on the ROG Phone 3, the on-board 3.5mm jack has made a triumphant return to the ROG Phone 5! And what a return indeed - it is hooked up to an ESS SABRE ES9280AC Pro DAC with HyperStream II QUAD DAC™ technology and a built-in Class G ESS Sabre Headphone amplifier.

                              The Class G Headphone amplifier automatically detects load impedance between 8 to 1000 Ohms. Enabling lower THD and 2Vrms in output for headphones with higher impedance than 50 Ohm. You can refer to the table for a breakdown.

                              The Class G ESS Sabre Headphone amplifier promises best-in-class signal-to-noise performance of 130db. And is backed-up by a patented Time Domain Jitter Eliminator that can reach a dynamic range of 122dB.

                              The ROG Phone 5 is also Hi-Res Audio (HRA) certified and when paired with a High-Res Audio certified output device can play back audio files rated at 24-bit/96kHz or 24-bit/192kH."

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                                • 22 Apr 2021

                                Nitz, 12 Apr 2021Same here. But compared to G7+ ThinQ, it doesn't seem ... moreThere spec is wrong 30.9 ufs its a good speaker mono if you wanna to hear loudest go through mike

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                                  • 0GS
                                  • 22 Apr 2021

                                  most beautiful smartphone ever made. thanks lg. i love it.

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                                    • 22 Apr 2021

                                    So sad, but LG ended up with mobile production mainly becouse of this strange experiments and inadequate prices.

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                                      • 21 Apr 2021

                                      RishiGuru, 21 Apr 2021Thanks a lot for such detailed review of the Wing's he... moreI totally agree with your points. Yes, Velvet can slay all if we use full potential of that sound chip.
                                      I cant say anything about Vivo phones, i never used that brand. Even, i never used any Chinese brand. I better be stay away from those. It really doesn't matter what specs they provide and on what price, I just don't want them. I prefer any Non-Chinese brand anytime even with some low specs at given price. Trust me, one of my friends paid a heavy amount just because of security related issues. Even, he got fired because of that back in 2016 so, i will try not to opt any Chinese brand.
                                      And yes, about the sound quality, i am looking for some mobiles which have good listening experience. Till then, am totally fine with G7+. This mobile have no issues, not even a scratch. By 2.5 years, i am looking after this mobile like a precious gem. Hope mobile companies will liten to us and make a dedicated mobile for sound lovers. They. Can keep everything else old like 1-2 generations.
                                      But thanks for you info. About chips and sound department. It is always a pleasure to discuss this with you and music lovers.

                                        Muzik, 20 Apr 2021I am here again with some mixed feelings about the sound qu... moreThanks a lot for such detailed review of the Wing's headphone audio capabilities. I really loved to read the subjective part. In the end it seems Wing delivered as much as I expected it to be in audio department. And the net result is poor performance in comparison to ESS laden DAC models like LG G7+.

                                        Frankly speaking, ESS dacs (QuadDAC) are the best in business, and very few phones can compete with them. I have experienced their capabilities with LG V30+ & LG G8X. Wing must be using a mid level Qualcomm audio codec that ships with SD765G in Wing.

                                        Question is LG Wing's DAC is inside the phone or in the dongle? If Wing is emanating pure digital audio stream from its USB port, then a Hi-end audio dongle will take it near your G7's performance. But if the DAC is inside the phone and the dongle is just an analogue pass-through then we are stuck.

                                        In my expereince only the top end Cirrus Logic DACs can compete with ESS DACs. I have a Vivo NEX S laden with Cirrus Logic DAC, it has what it takes to compete with my LG's. The latest Vivo X60 Pro+ is also laden with Cirrus Logic DAC inside. This phone is capable to challenge your G7+ on the open. However no audio jack in X60 Pro+, so we have to always use the analogue audio pass-through dongle with it. I hate that.

                                        Lastly, India bound LG Velvet (4G) comes with Snapdragon 845. SD845 comes with a discrete Qualcomm Aqstic WCD9341 top-of-the-line audio chip. The WCD9341 when implemented in high power/ performance mode is a TRUE KILLER. If properly implemented in the hardware level it can slay many dedicated DAC phones.

                                        I have a Meizu 16th (SD845 & WCD9341) and the audio quality is sublime. It slays my iQOO 3's dedicated AKM AK4377A DAC by slight margin. Manufacturers like LG, Vivo & Meizu understands audio and do what is required in the hardware level to wring the maximum from these audio chips. To me Meizu 16th is a benchmark of what Qualcomm is capable in the headphone audio department.

                                        In the end LG Wing may be a great phone, but for audio lovers like us it is complete NO NO.

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