Meizu 16
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- Aadi
- rKY
- 03 Nov 2019
Alpha8, 03 Nov 2019Very well said and the price for which you got the meizu 16... moreAs of now only black color is available
I am using it for past one month and it's awesome!!
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- Alpha8
- Dk5
- 03 Nov 2019
RishiGuru, 31 Oct 2019Thanks for the inputs.
I just wanted to share the reason... moreVery well said and the price for which you got the meizu 16th makes it a true killer deal. However meizus naming convention is very confusing. The 16 phone here matches in configuration with 16th in meizu website where as the 16 on meizu website is some other model 16 lite version in China. It took me some time to understand the 16 of China is known as 16th globally. Please elaborate your experience with this phone as I am interested too.
Is the white color available in India for 16th?
- RishiGuru
- uIB
- 31 Oct 2019
Aadi, 30 Oct 2019As far as software experience goes, it's ok
No hickups no ... moreThanks for the inputs.
I just wanted to share the reasons why I bought Meizu 16th:
1) Always wanted to use a proper Meizu flagship as I love their symmetrical design approach, but was always let down by initial exuberant pricing. Meizu 16th was launched in India of on Dec, 2018 with an online price of INR 40K.
2) Yesterday bought the same phone from Amazon India at INR 17.1K. This is a 57% price drop from initial launch price and a killer deal. This massive price drop was possible due to 50% discount by Meizu for stock clearance, 5% amazon discount coupon & another 10% credit card discount.
3) You are getting hell of a lot for INR 17.1K. The 16th is a proper flagship & not a Poco F1. The F1 wraps a plastic body over high spec components whereas the 16th has premium glass/ aluminium alloy construction with high spec components. There is hell and heaven difference of in-hand feel between two phones.
4) Meizu 16th has a 3.5 mm audio jack. This is a must have for me as I own a lot of premium headphones and listen to lot of audio. The 16th new incarnations i.e the Meizu 16s & Meizu 16s Pro does not contain 3.5 mm audio jack. Hence I will never buy those. The other two models 16T & 16Xs have audio jacks but are not Meizu flagships as their construction is of low quality plastic and not metal. However 16T have great specs. Meizu flagships are easily identifiable as they contain their trademark ring camera flash module & hence 16T is not Meizu's flagship.
5) For INR 17.1K you get premium glass metal build, Samsung Super AMOLED display, in-display fingerprint scanner, Snapdragon 845, 8GB LPDDR4x RAM, 128 GB UFS 2,1 ROM, dual VoLTE support, 3.5 mm audio jack, USB Type-C port, fast charging, .....
6) For this deep discounted price if i get a stable OS I will be more than happy. Even with no future OS updates I just cannot complain.
7) The Meizu 16th have a 3000 mAh battery which will be enough a day of moderate usage.
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- Aadi
- GRT
- 30 Oct 2019
[deleted post]As far as software experience goes, it's ok
No hickups no issues.
On first boot, I searched for software update it upgraded to global latest update
Android is still 8 but minor fixes like night mode in camera, etc.
- RishiGuru
- uIB
- 30 Oct 2019
Aadi, 29 Oct 20191) In India, the Asus Zenfone 5Z (6/128 GB) variant is avai... moreAfter you said the Amazon India is providing a 5% discount coupon I went back to the website and read all types of discounts available for the Meizu 16th. It seems you not only get a 5% discount while buying this phone but also get an additional 10% discount if you hold certain credit cards. Fortunately, I have one of those and after applying the credit card the price came down to a almost insane INR 17K bracket which compelled be to buy this phone.
Below is the price breakdown on Amazon:
Order Summary [in INR]
Item(s) Subtotal: 19,990.00
Shipping: 0.00
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Total: 19,990.00
Promotion Applied:- 999.50 [5% coupon]
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Total: 18,990.50
Instant Bank Discount: 1,899.79 [10% Instant discount credit card]
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Grand Total: 17,090.71
With Snapdragon 845, 8GB LPDDR4x RAM, 128GB UFS 2.1 ROM & exquisite flagship grade metal body, the Meizu 16th is the best bang for out buck flagship available in India. Period.
Even in China, this phone with similar configuration is available for INR 18,500 and we are having it at INR 17,090 in India!!!
The only question is the software experienced as I have never used a Meizu. Hope for the best.
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- Aadi
- rKd
- 29 Oct 2019
RishiGuru, 28 Oct 2019Their are many factors which are preventing me from committ... more1) In India, the Asus Zenfone 5Z (6/128 GB) variant is available for INR 19K on Flipkart. The Meizu 16th (8/128 GB) variant is available for INR 20K on Amazon. Meizu is charging INR 1K more for 2 GB more RAM which is justifiable. It a tie here.
- There is no tie in here, it's 8GB ram with fast storage. Also there is 1k discount on Amazon.
2) Both phones have similar glass sandwich construction with an aluminium frame. However Asus 5Z comes with Gorilla Glass 3 front & back where as Meizu 16th have unspecified glass which can be more prone to breaking and scratches. Asus wins here.
3) Meizu 16th has a 6 inch notch-less Samsung super AMOLED display where as 5Z has a 6.2 IPS LCD panel. Where as the 16th display is more vivid and have deep blacks, the 5Z's display is more accurate, supports 100% DCI-P3 and is brighter. Its a tie here.
-This is true.
4) Meizu has in-display fingerprint scanner whereas Asus have regular scanner on the back. While Meizu's implementation is more futuristic, Asus implementation is more accurate, faster & secure. Its a tie here.
-In display scanning is fast in meizu + there is face recognition which is even faster.
5) The camera performance of Asus 5Z is superior in every way over Meizu 16th. The reviewers are telling a lot of noise are present in the still photos of Meizu and the Asus 5Z is considerably better. When is comes to videos, Asus has EIS stabilized videos where as the Meizu have choppy videos recorded with its camera. This is an issue every reviewer complained and even if the 16th comes with OIS, its half baked camera software cannot use it properly to stabilize the videos. Also the camera software of 16th always forgets the last setting and goes back to default every time you use it. Asus 5Z wins hands down by a big margin.
- This souly lyes on ones perception. I Didn't find any such issue with Meizu.
6) Asus 5Z gives you the option use micro-SD card and expand memory upto 2 TB. You are forever stuck with 128 GB with Meizu. Asus wins.
128GB is enough in today's world where data is stored on cloud. Google photos help me sync images and videos. While other apps have multi sync features. Mmc is out now that not most flagships have them.
7) Both supports dual 4G VoLTE. Tie here.
True
8) Asus 5Z comes with a 3300 mAh battery over 3010 mAh of 16th. The 5Z gives you much better battery backup due to bigger battery. Both supports 18 watts fast charging and comes with fast wall chargers included in the box. Asus wins.
9) Both comes with dual speaker setup for loud and clear audio. However the Asus 5Z comes with 5-magnet speakers with dual NXP Smart Amp and is the louder one. Asus wins over a slight margin.
-Meizu comes with 24watt charger and mcharge 1 hour to get the battery full.
10) Both comes with 3.5 mm audio jack. However the Asus 5Z have way better sound quality over headphones as it uses Qualcomm Aqstic Audio CODEC and supports Hi-Res audio 192kHz/24-bit standard. Asus 5Z wins hands down.
- Meizu has its own music control which works with online streaming apps like ganna and savan. So one needs to hear before commentz.
11) Meizu is facing troubles lately and laying off hundreds of Chinese employees in the process to stay afloat. Two of Meizu's prominent figures - VP Li Nan and Systems Engineer Hong Hansheng recently exited the company. We have seen it before and Meizu is now just a dying star in the smartphone industry. They just does not have the budget to create full blown flagships. With their global support almost non-existent it is high risk to buy their phones as of now with no after sales support on a global level.
- that's true.
12) The biggest gripe against all current Meizu phones are their half baked software. The 16th is running Flyme OS skin on top of age old Android Oreo (8.1) and there are no plans for future updates. Even more the old Oreo build is not stable enough with many alarming bugs remaining and unsolved which will hamper day to day activity. There are forum full of sad Meizu 16th owners who are complaining about this. We may admire construction and build quality of a phone, but as soon as you put it under a cover, the only way we are going to interact is through the software. If the software is a s buggy as Flyme OS is in Meizu 16th it will eventually lead to the decision of not buying this phone as there is no future support. Where as the Asus 5z is running on newer stable Android Pie (9.0) and is in the list to receive Android Q (10.0). Asus wins buy a huge margins.
- no bugs in Flyme for India at least works well.
In the end I don't think anybody will buy or praise the Meizu 16th expect for those who had made an impulsive decision to buy this phone without doing proper research about the product or does not have many options available on their region. And also Meizu fans will buy this phone as it is a Meizu. Other brand-neutral buyers will run for similarly priced and more future proof phones like Asus Zenefone 5z.
-Depends on person to person, however how much support Asus has for it's phones is debatable
- RishiGuru
- utg
- 28 Oct 2019
Aadi, 27 Oct 20191) The camera is not all that good for still photography. A... moreTheir are many factors which are preventing me from committing to the Meizu 16th:
1) In India, the Asus Zenfone 5Z (6/128 GB) variant is available for INR 19K on Flipkart. The Meizu 16th (8/128 GB) variant is available for INR 20K on Amazon. Meizu is charging INR 1K more for 2 GB more RAM which is justifiable. It a tie here.
2) Both phones have similar glass sandwich construction with an aluminium frame. However Asus 5Z comes with Gorilla Glass 3 front & back where as Meizu 16th have unspecified glass which can be more prone to breaking and scratches. Asus wins here.
3) Meizu 16th has a 6 inch notch-less Samsung super AMOLED display where as 5Z has a 6.2 IPS LCD panel. Where as the 16th display is more vivid and have deep blacks, the 5Z's display is more accurate, supports 100% DCI-P3 and is brighter. Its a tie here.
4) Meizu has in-display fingerprint scanner whereas Asus have regular scanner on the back. While Meizu's implementation is more futuristic, Asus implementation is more accurate, faster & secure. Its a tie here.
5) The camera performance of Asus 5Z is superior in every way over Meizu 16th. The reviewers are telling a lot of noise are present in the still photos of Meizu and the Asus 5Z is considerably better. When is comes to videos, Asus has EIS stabilized videos where as the Meizu have choppy videos recorded with its camera. This is an issue every reviewer complained and even if the 16th comes with OIS, its half baked camera software cannot use it properly to stabilize the videos. Also the camera software of 16th always forgets the last setting and goes back to default every time you use it. Asus 5Z wins hands down by a big margin.
6) Asus 5Z gives you the option use micro-SD card and expand memory upto 2 TB. You are forever stuck with 128 GB with Meizu. Asus wins.
7) Both supports dual 4G VoLTE. Tie here.
8) Asus 5Z comes with a 3300 mAh battery over 3010 mAh of 16th. The 5Z gives you much better battery backup due to bigger battery. Both supports 18 watts fast charging and comes with fast wall chargers included in the box. Asus wins.
9) Both comes with dual speaker setup for loud and clear audio. However the Asus 5Z comes with 5-magnet speakers with dual NXP Smart Amp and is the louder one. Asus wins over a slight margin.
10) Both comes with 3.5 mm audio jack. However the Asus 5Z have way better sound quality over headphones as it uses Qualcomm Aqstic Audio CODEC and supports Hi-Res audio 192kHz/24-bit standard. Asus 5Z wins hands down.
11) Meizu is facing troubles lately and laying off hundreds of Chinese employees in the process to stay afloat. Two of Meizu's prominent figures - VP Li Nan and Systems Engineer Hong Hansheng recently exited the company. We have seen it before and Meizu is now just a dying star in the smartphone industry. They just does not have the budget to create full blown flagships. With their global support almost non-existent it is high risk to buy their phones as of now with no after sales support on a global level.
12) The biggest gripe against all current Meizu phones are their half baked software. The 16th is running Flyme OS skin on top of age old Android Oreo (8.1) and there are no plans for future updates. Even more the old Oreo build is not stable enough with many alarming bugs remaining and unsolved which will hamper day to day activity. There are forum full of sad Meizu 16th owners who are complaining about this. We may admire construction and build quality of a phone, but as soon as you put it under a cover, the only way we are going to interact is through the software. If the software is a s buggy as Flyme OS is in Meizu 16th it will eventually lead to the decision of not buying this phone as there is no future support. Where as the Asus 5z is running on newer stable Android Pie (9.0) and is in the list to receive Android Q (10.0). Asus wins buy a huge margins.
In the end I don't think anybody will buy or praise the Meizu 16th expect for those who had made an impulsive decision to buy this phone without doing proper research about the product or does not have many options available on their region. And also Meizu fans will buy this phone as it is a Meizu. Other brand-neutral buyers will run for similarly priced and more future proof phones like Asus Zenefone 5z.
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- Aadi
- U@x
- 27 Oct 2019
RishiGuru, 26 Oct 2019I am from India, and I too am interested on this phone. How... more1) The camera is not all that good for still photography. AI is applied everywhere and you can only disable it fully on full manual mode.
Hind cameras are great. I am using this phone as of date. Night mode is excellent.
2) Video capture has no stabilization support, not even EIS. So all videos are shakey. Specwise similar and priced Asus Zenfone 5z and Xiaomi Poco F1 are miles ahead in the camera department.
Not true. Videos are good, just recording on camera is mono.
3) Battery is small and backup is not all that great.
3010 mAh lasts for a day in moderate use.
4) Not for gamers as the device heats up considerably and battery drains a lot under gaming.
COD and PubG are well played on this, battery isn't drained much.
5) The OS is not that mature and have many bugs.
Not mature True, Bugs - false, it's similar to MIUI
6) No assurity on future android updates.
TRUE
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- Aadi
- U@x
- 27 Oct 2019
noorul, 26 Oct 2019I wish to purchase it, how would you recommend it? is it wo... moreYes I would recommend it.
But after sales and service is not there in India
I got it for a good deal from Amazon
Software updates forget it, but the phone itself is a killer.
My primary phones were Samsung S9 AND MiA2
Now I have all data and Sims in this meizu 16th and it's flawless.
Loving it.
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- utg
- 27 Oct 2019
Koko, 16 May 2019Anyone updated to flyme 7.3.0.0G on global rom? If so what'... moreThis phone still running of Android Oreo (8.0) released two years back when major manufactures are releasing Android 10 for their phones now, and are two generations ahead of Meizu 16th. My $110 Nokia 6.1 runs on Android Pie (9.0) with planned update of Android 10 by Dec, 2019.
Everybody knows Meizu is now a dying star is phone industry and that is showing in the Flyme OS which so many issues. I understand Meizu have limited budget for development of their phones and hence the end product is not a complete product like that of Huawei, Honor, OnePlus, Vivo or Oppo. The phone will never be updated to Android Pie (9.0) leave alone Android 10 which vastly improves security on your phones.
I read a post where after a owner of this phone created the Flyme account, the Meizu 16th got locked down and won't open even if the correct password was provided. And many owners are facing the same issues!!!!
Personally I am brand neutral and i think nobody will going to buy this junk expect for die-hard Meizu fans.
- RishiGuru
- utg
- 26 Oct 2019
I am from India, and I too am interested on this phone. However while going through some reviews on internet and YouTube, I found some common issues that all the reviewers are complaining about the global Meizu 16th:
1) The camera is not all that good for still photography. AI is applied everywhere and you can only disable it fully on full manual mode.
2) Video capture has no stabilization support, not even EIS. So all videos are shakey. Specwise similar and priced Asus Zenfone 5z and Xiaomi Poco F1 are miles ahead in the camera department.
3) Battery is small and backup is not all that great.
4) Not for gamers as the device heats up considerably and battery drains a lot under gaming.
5) The OS is not that mature and have many bugs.
6) No assurity on future android updates.
In the end I think Asus 5z and Pick F1 are much better options.
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- noorul
- XRL
- 26 Oct 2019
Aadi, 12 Oct 2019Anyone from India using this?I wish to purchase it, would you recommend???
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- noorul
- XRL
- 26 Oct 2019
I wish to purchase it, how would you recommend it? is it worth going for?? how is the after sales experience...
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- Aadi
- rJY
- 20 Oct 2019
Aadi, 12 Oct 2019Anyone from India using this?Never mind
I am
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- Aadi
- 7kH
- 12 Oct 2019
Anyone from India using this?
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- Tanase Adrian
- nDQ
- 13 Sep 2019
TJ, 04 Aug 2019I get 4 days on average. Sometimes it pulls out 5-6 days on... morebetter buy a nokia 3310.
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- Anonymous
- 42v
- 13 Sep 2019
Tanase Adrian, 13 Jun 2019are you kidding me?!?! what are you on? in which dream you ... moreThey both have their ups and downs. The 16 has a bigger screen and better chipset, while the v30 has a higher definition screen and better audio quality (quad dac support.) Pick your poison I guess.
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- r@p
- 04 Aug 2019
Radja, 15 Jul 2019Hi, can some one please tell me how screen on time you get... moreI get 4 days on average. Sometimes it pulls out 5-6 days on a single charge, minimum 3 days. But I also don't do dumb things like gaming on a smartphone nor using it as a replacement for my PC or laptop (meaning I use smartphone internet only to check messages and occasionally to check mail or weather when I'm not at home). I've set screen brightness to 50%, no automatic sync, wifi or mobile data are turned on only when I need them, GPS is turned on only when and if I need it.
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- Anonymous
- 7j%
- 18 Jul 2019
Is there a monochrome or black and white mode in 16th. Is the secondary camera /depth sensor a monochrome sensor
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- Radja
- mKb
- 15 Jul 2019
Hi, can some one please tell me how screen on time you get with one charge? Phone is nice but I wory is so small battery good for 5 h sot. Thanks