Meizu 17 Pro
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- Anonymous
- fDq
- 15 May 2020
SteveFOX, 13 May 2020Aliexpress has Meizu 17 Pro up for pre-order with a Global ROM.Isn't Global ROM trash compared to China ROM in terms of software support? And doesn't China ROM support English as well? I don't think It's a big if you have decent English anyway
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- Crackling Doom
- IBC
- 13 May 2020
Rk100, 13 May 2020And here you go not understanding a single thing I have sai... moreBro, relax. It's not a big deal.
I was half joking with that article (mostly to see if you would read it or just skim the headline and go from there). I've already stated what I wanted to state and still won't purchase phones without a headphone jack as I don't like corporate greed. That really is all there is to it.
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- SteveFOX
- ntk
- 13 May 2020
notafanboy, 11 May 2020source?Aliexpress has Meizu 17 Pro up for pre-order with a Global ROM.
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- Rk100
- 6v0
- 13 May 2020
Crackling Doom, 13 May 2020Here you go then. If you wanted clarification.
https://... moreAnd here you go not understanding a single thing I have said. Did you even read my comment or did you just read the first three lines or so again? Now please show me where it says apple make more money then the US government ( you did say that in earlier comments) and also can you show me how apple is richer than the US, which is not a company, meaning it is not built to be profitable. The US treasury that less cash at deposit then apple, but that doesn't make apple richer than the US, because of the trillions of dollars in assets, First off, a government is very different from a corporation. The government has debts, but it also has vast land holdings, most of which are not assigned a book value.
Second, Apple is not really one company; it is a “family” of dozens of companies registered in different countries, trading with each other in such a way as to place earnings in low-tax jurisdictions. Some of the most valuable subsidiaries are carefully constructed to not pay tax ANYWHERE, and many of which work in the utmost secrecy.
Also the US government are to spend 2.2 trillion dollars in COVID-19 relief, now that is a clear example of them not needing a lot of cash physically in the treasury. The US government can simply spend much more than apple could. Like I said the treasury is not everything, its the current assets that matter, considering its valued at billions of cold hard cash.Over the course of the 2018 fiscal year, the US government took in $3.329 trillion. This number reflects the amount of money the government earned from revenue, both taxes and miscellaneous sources
And also what does this have to do anything with the headphone jacks removal. Please have a read and try to understand economics a little bit.
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- Crackling Doom
- IBC
- 13 May 2020
Crackling Doom, 13 May 2020Here you go then. If you wanted clarification. https://... moreLooking back, I worded my initial post incorrectly. Not sure what I was thinking.
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- Crackling Doom
- IBC
- 13 May 2020
Rk100, 13 May 2020If you are going to 'prove' to me a fact then at least read... moreHere you go then. If you wanted clarification.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/03/apple-owns-more-us-treasuries-than-many-major-countries.html
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- Rk100
- 6v0
- 13 May 2020
Crackling Doom, 13 May 2020You don't know what you're talking about.
https://www.fo... moreIf you are going to 'prove' to me a fact then at least read the bloody article. For god sake, it literally says in the article on how apple actually doesn't have more cash than the US government. For damned sake please read what you have sent.
Here is one of the reasons why they don't (from the exact same article YOU sent me):
''The first and most obvious being that the government has entirely unlimited amounts of cash. Because they're the people that create it. So, if they need more they can just go make some more. Yes, obviously they can just print more dollar bills but they've another way which is the simple creation of new electronic money. The Fed just says, hey, look, we've changed our minds about how much cash we've got and there's another $100 billion in the drawer. This is, at heart, what quantitative easing is. Said Fed just invents some more money and goes out and buys bonds with it. This raises the price of/lowers the yield on those bonds and thus lowers long term interest rates which is the point of the exercise. So it's difficult to state, with any real meaning, that the government has any shortage of cash, or even any known and limited amount, given that they can and do create as much as they wish whenever.''
And the other reason from the same article, that you have only clearly read the headline from:
''The first and most obvious being that the government has entirely unlimited amounts of cash. Because they're the people that create it. So, if they need more they can just go make some more. Yes, obviously they can just print more dollar bills but they've another way which is the simple creation of new electronic money. The Fed just says, hey, look, we've changed our minds about how much cash we've got and there's another $100 billion in the drawer. This is, at heart, what quantitative easing is. Said Fed just invents some more money and goes out and buys bonds with it. This raises the price of/lowers the yield on those bonds and thus lowers long term interest rates which is the point of the exercise. So it's difficult to state, with any real meaning, that the government has any shortage of cash, or even any known and limited amount, given that they can and do create as much as they wish whenever.''
And lastly, No Apple is not richer than the US government. The US government has hidden assets such as gold, platinum, silver, stocks, land, oil, bonds, weapons, art and artifacts, that will make the US government far richer if the value of money would bust. Like they have a bloody budget of over 700billion usd just for their military.
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- Crackling Doom
- IBC
- 13 May 2020
Rk100, 12 May 2020Firstly, the US government has more money and can make way ... moreYou don't know what you're talking about.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2014/04/13/fun-number-apple-has-twice-as-much-cash-as-the-us-government/#2ec7c1a55709
- notafanboy
- nJ7
- 12 May 2020
ALonZo, 12 May 2020I don't like this phone as it has an OLED panel and I want ... moreips lcd is bad. oled is superior.
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- Rk100
- 6v0
- 12 May 2020
Crackling Doom, 12 May 2020I shouldn't blame Apple (that started the trend) but I shou... moreAlso they are not exploiting their costumers, if they are then why are some much people buying their products. They had an alternative in mind, the airpod, but they also had they headphone jack adapter so it is not like they did not give you any options, instead they did give options, but instead of understanding why they would do that move which even i wasn't keen on as well happened you just complain without much thought. In the future everthing is going to be wireless, beginning form wireless charging to now wireless earbuds. Wires are slowly becoming a thing of they past for handsets.
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- Rk100
- 6v0
- 12 May 2020
Crackling Doom, 12 May 2020I shouldn't blame Apple (that started the trend) but I shou... moreFirstly, the US government has more money and can make way more money than apple, Secondly like I said it's a business, just because they are now worth 1 trillion USD, doesn't mean that they can now stop making money. Also apple actually has a smaller profit margins on some of thier devices than a lot of other companies. There can never be too much profit. It will always be the single most important reason why it is a business not a charity organisation that wants to make people happy. Because apple is such a large company worldwide and since it is a public company on the stock market, they have to make sure that their holders are getting the money back that they invested in plus profit. I happen to be a shareholder and people don't realize that apple has to satisfy us before anyone else. Because we firstly own apple and we invested money into it, we want our money back plus dividends. Like i said they do not care about petty things like the bringing back the jack because the airpods are making way more money than other audio companies. To be honest when I heard about the plan of the airpods and how it was going to make them money, I was worried. But it ended up being one of the most financially best desicions they have done. Apple wont stop making money because they have a lot of money, for gods sake it is a busniess, just because it is one of the biggest doesn't mean they they have more than enough profit. Apple is also a 'luxury' tech company, all they make is expensive tech. But the people who have more than enough to spend buy their products, usually they don't complain about the lack of the jack, why because they just simply buy the airpod.
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- ALonZo
- Mn0
- 12 May 2020
I don't like this phone as it has an OLED panel and I want an LCD. I also don't like this phone as you cannot remove the battery. I also don't like this phone as it doesn't have the most important feature of them all; infrared. I also don't like this phone has it is 6.6" and it should be 6.5" or 6.7". I also don't like this phone as I cannot take this phone deep into the ocean when I am scubadiving. Oh, I don't like this phone as this is the only phone on the planet now without a 3.5 headphone socket. Oh, it doesn't have Snake pre-installed so I don't like this phone.
So this phone is a big Fail. A big fail. A real big Fail.
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- Sia
- 0LK
- 12 May 2020
No OIS for the price ???
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- Crackling Doom
- IBC
- 12 May 2020
Rk100, 12 May 2020I wouldn't blame apple, they simply had a good business ide... moreI shouldn't blame Apple (that started the trend) but I should blame the companies that followed the trend?
No. I blame all of them.
How much profit is enough profit?
Apple was already making more money than the US government and they still wanted to exploit their consumers for profit. I don't respect business decisions like that. I respect decisions that put the consumers in mind, not profit. If the consumers are happy then profit comes naturally.
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- Rk100
- 6v0
- 12 May 2020
Crackling Doom, 10 May 2020I blame Apple. They were the ones that started this stupid ... moreI wouldn't blame apple, they simply had a good business idea, making profit from TWS earbuds, which worked out brilliantly. If the airpods became it's own brand it would be the biggest audio company at almost $9 billion market cap. I would blame all the other brands who copied apple. They wanted some of that profit. To put it simply those companies understood that this was gonna make them a crap ton of money, because apple did it and it was successful for them, other big brands thought they could do the same. So like apple they removed the headphone jack to force people to buy TWS earbuds, and it's working. I think a lot of people are forgetting that this is business, these companies are making these phones to make profit, they want to satisfy the shareholders, not to satisfy, now a small, group of people who want this one specific feature. They simply don't care for those one or two features. Also the population of people who want the jack back is slowly but surely dying, people are facing up to the fact that it wont come back, only companies who don't have a TWS earbud for sale have the jack.
- notafanboy
- nJ7
- 11 May 2020
SteveFOX, 11 May 2020The 17 Pro will have a Global ROM and available outside Chi... moresource?
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- SteveFOX
- ntk
- 11 May 2020
Mobilemaster, 10 May 2020My question is, will Meizu launch he phone outside of China?The 17 Pro will have a Global ROM and available outside China. The 17 perhaps won't.
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- Mobilemaster
- 0C9
- 10 May 2020
RishiGuru, 10 May 2020May or may not. Meizu India as a company launched their 201... moreOK, but how about Europe? They do not have much of a presence here.
- RishiGuru
- utg
- 10 May 2020
Mobilemaster, 10 May 2020My question is, will Meizu launch he phone outside of China?May or may not. Meizu India as a company launched their 2018 flagship in our country. Meizu 16th (Meizu 16 in China). However they skipped their 2019 flagship 16s. So maybe they launch the 17 in India.