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AnonD-930503, 11 Nov 2021There is no reason to explain you as far as your view very ... moreTroll. No one here will agree with everything you said. We have it on record.
I have explained different use cases of different lenses. You haven't.
I have shown National Geographic's work with telephoto lenses and smartphones.
I have plenty more arguments, but it will be a complete waste of time using them for a person with a very narrow mind.

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    EliseKlevr, 11 Nov 2021This conversation is futile and a waste of time. It's ... moreThere is no reason to explain you as far as your view very narrow, like horse sees only the road

      EliseKlevr, 11 Nov 2021Use your big telephoto lens on the field and hide it in you... moreThis conversation is futile and a waste of time. It's obvious that you are an online troll.

        AnonD-930503, 11 Nov 20211) for people who want to take pictures of dangerous animal... moreUse your big telephoto lens on the field and hide it in your coat so that it can't be seen. 😅
        Broadcasting agencies rely on civilian contributors for footage that they broadcast.
        Do you think ordinary civilians carry DSLRs all the time?
        You're just opposing your previous statements.

          AnonD-930503, 11 Nov 2021Just buy professional camera, not mobile phone this is the ... more"Smart person won't buy mobile camera for work"

          😂😂😂
          Professionals are already using phone cameras for professional work.
          A recent study even states that:

          "58 percent of those photographers using a smartphone in professional context, do so to take photos that support their own business, i.e. for their website or social media presence, with behind-the-scenes shots another popular use case."

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            EliseKlevr, 11 Nov 2021A professional will never say: 1) "Absolutely, tele... more1) for people who want to take pictures of dangerous animals, tornadoes, erupting volcanoes, flood, and ongoing crime, what lenses should they use to document these important situations?
            How many people there are?
            They won't use mobile camera as a main camera! May be you use it, because you don't want to carry! But there are drones for erupting volcanoes! Ongoing crime, use your main camera it's fully enough! But if you are investigator, then you need professional camera, you won't use mobile phone

              AnonD-930503, 11 Nov 2021Just buy professional camera, not mobile phone this is the ... moreStupid reply. You don't know what you are talking about.
              Good day, Sir.

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                EliseKlevr, 11 Nov 2021A professional will never say: 1) "Absolutely, tele... moreJust buy professional camera, not mobile phone this is the idea what I am talking. Go buy good lenses, zoom lense for professional camera! If you need for your work! Smart person won't buy mobile camera for work

                  AnonD-930503, 11 Nov 2021If I were mobile camera maker, I wouldn't make telepho... moreA lot of affordable phones have macro and telephoto cameras. If I can afford Xperia Pro I, I will because I already own Sony cameras and lenses.

                  These manufactures are not stupid for adding extra lenses that people use.

                  https://www.kimovil.com/en/best-smartphones-macro-camera
                  https://www.digit.in/amazon-articles/mobile-phones/affordable-phones-with-a-telephoto-camera-55411.html

                    AnonD-930503, 11 Nov 2021Again it's about special purpose, we don't work f... moreA professional will never say:

                    1) "Absolutely, telephoto is for beginners or lazy stupid users"
                    2) "So Android mobile phones don't have excellent telephoto! You can even check my photos they are more professional than telephoto taken! So what does it mean there are some STUPID GUYS DON'T KNOW HOW TO TAKE PHOTOS, THEY ARE VERY LAZY GO TO CLOSE TO TAKE SHOT. They don't know the basics of camera"
                    3) "I didn't say stupid for National Geographic, it's you say"
                    "Absolutely, telephoto is for beginners or lazy stupid users."
                    4) "For an ordinary person macro and telephoto useless and for stupids."

                    Since you are a "professional" photographer, explain

                    1) the purpose of different focal lengths regardless of camera
                    2) for people who want to take pictures of dangerous animals, tornadoes, erupting volcanoes, flood, and ongoing crime, what lenses should they use to document these important situations?

                    A pro can answer these questions easily, even a technology geek can.

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                      If I were mobile camera maker, I wouldn't make telephoto and macro cameras! It's fully enough if mobile phone has main camera! And Sony knows how to sell mobile phone, they sell it special people who is ready to pay 2000 us dollars😂

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                        EliseKlevr, 11 Nov 2021You: "I didn't say stupid for National Geographi... moreAgain it's about special purpose, we don't work for national Geographic, or I don't leave close to dangerous river! So we don't need it! It's only like you amateurs. It's for those their job pays for photography!

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                          EliseKlevr, 11 Nov 2021I just used the Xperia as an example of a phone that has te... moreDon't mention about others, it's only you need!

                            AnonD-930503, 11 Nov 2021And Guess who will buy Sony Xperia I, do you have an answer... moreYou:
                            "I didn't say stupid for National Geographic, it's you say"
                            "Absolutely, telephoto is for beginners or lazy stupid users"

                            You just made a generalized remark.

                            • National Geographic uses a lot of telephoto lenses because they are clever, not lazy, and most of all, not stupid. Read articles before making remarks:
                            "Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM lens and a 500mm or 600mm are coming with me as they are the best lenses for bringing what’s far away closer."
                            —NatGeo contributor photographer

                            • NatGeo article: "Capturing life in Africa through the lens of a smartphone"
                            Read for yourself and learn:
                            https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/partner-content-capturing-life-in-Africa-with-a-smartphone

                            NatGeo even teaches smartphone photography. Would it be great if you have a macro and telephoto built into your smartphone? No need to carry heavy, expensive lenses.

                            I would be thrilled if I can use a smartphone with a good macro and telephoto lenses.

                            Since the professional lenses presented above are very expensive for ordinary users, then a telephoto incorporated in a less expensive device such as smartphones is obviously not stupid.
                            In fact, it would be great for consumers.
                            Do you think smartphone engineers put macro and telephoto lenses on smartphones for no reason?
                            Do you think they are stupid?

                            OMG. Your replies are shocking to read.

                              YUKI93, 10 Nov 2021There's nothing wrong with being stupid, just don'... more😂
                              100% true.

                                AnonD-930503, 11 Nov 2021And Guess who will buy Sony Xperia I, do you have an answer... moreI just used the Xperia as an example of a phone that has telephoto lens. I can cite others from few years ago.

                                As for the crocodile, I used that illustration to counter your argument that clever people don't need telephoto lenses. Go ahead and shoot one with your "normal lens" and let's see how you get dragged into the water right before you'll be able to press that shutter.

                                We have a nearby zoo in our area and I don't want to carry heavy DSLR camera body and lenses with me.
                                Guess what will I bring?
                                A smartphone with macro and telephoto lenses.
                                Macro for insects and flowers.
                                Telephoto for dangerous animals: cobra, anacondas, crocodiles, emu, and so on.
                                Wide angle for groufies and landscapes.

                                That's the point of a triple camera setup with different focal lengths.
                                16mm, 24mm, and 70mm. We all need these.

                                  AnonD-930503, 11 Nov 2021I didn't say stupid for National Geographic, it's... moreYou just called everyone "stupid." Read your previous comments. I'm glad that comments can no longer be edited after 10 minutes and I can quote them for you and use your comments against you, mister.

                                  You:
                                  1) "Absolutely, telephoto is for beginners or lazy stupid users"
                                  2) "So Android mobile phones don't have excellent telephoto! You can even check my photos they are more professional than telephoto taken! So what does it mean there are some STUPID GUYS DON'T KNOW HOW TO TAKE PHOTOS, THEY ARE VERY LAZY GO TO CLOSE TO TAKE SHOT. They don't know the basics of camera"

                                  GO ahead, take a shot of an erupting volcano up close. Or an easier one, take a picture of an anaconda near the water.

                                  3) "I didn't say stupid for National Geographic, it's you say"
                                  You just said that. Here's what you said:
                                  "Absolutely, telephoto is for beginners or lazy stupid users."
                                  This is a stupid, generalized remark.

                                  4) "For an ordinary person macro and telephoto useless and for stupids."
                                  Such a stupid remark and a direct reflection of yourself. Macro lenses are used in cameras for a variety of reasons. Food photography, document scanning, product photography (most people who sell products online use this)

                                  5) "National Geographic because they use Red camera"
                                  It's true that they use Red, but their photographers in the field use ordinary cameras:
                                  https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/travel-photographers-favorite-cameras

                                  Red CAmera is a camera, not a lens. National Geographi use telephoto and all sorts of lenses.

                                  It's obvious that you don't know what you are saying and deserve no more of my time.

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                                    EliseKlevr, 10 Nov 2021Okay, NatGeo photographers are lazy and stupid? Try taking... moreAnd Guess who will buy Sony Xperia I, do you have an answer? Amateur photographers or professional photographers work for YouTube channel, and guess how many people will buy it. Do you need macro? Or will ordinary people need macro camera? Are you a tech guy? Do you need telephoto lens on mobile phone! Will professionals trust you if you say I will take video or photo on mobile phone! What you say it's really ridiculous! Main camera is fully enough, if you are not super special tech guy, who is trying to macro objects! And For Nile crocodiles nobody will carry Sony Xperia I or mobile telephoto! There's no sense what you are talking

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                                      EliseKlevr, 10 Nov 2021Okay, NatGeo photographers are lazy and stupid? Try taking... moreI didn't say stupid for National Geographic, it's you say
                                      Read before answer, I didn't say about anything professional cameras, I said about mobile phones, and 99℅ of people don't need macro because we are not National Geographic guys, not everyone need telephoto lens it's for special people who work may be National Geographic! And you don't know anything about National Geographic because they use Red camera, do you have an idea how much does red camera cost? Do you know how many cameras do they use...read and learn before answer! For an ordinary person macro and telephoto useless and for stupids

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                                        zzzzz, 10 Nov 2021in my opinion better to go for samsung or iphone moto is q... moreWhy don't you read well before commenting ? It does have stereo speakers and the screen is faster than most other flagship phones. Motorola is more reliable than Samsung and iphone imo.

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