Motorola Moto G71 5G
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Ryk, 15 Mar 2022I can't view 4k videos in youtube. Will there be an up... moreWhy do you need 4k on a 1080p screen anyway? It lets you play up to 1440p on Youtube, that should be more than enough
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- 15 Mar 2022
three7, 12 Mar 2022No OIS, nor EIS? Moto can't make a proper cell phone?Blame that on garbage SD695 soc.
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- 15 Mar 2022
I can't view 4k videos in youtube. Will there be an update to resolve this issue
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- Anonymous
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- 27 Feb 2022
Gino76ph, 25 Feb 2022I've had the Redmi Note 10 Pro for 2 weeks now and hav... moreLooks like I was one of those unlucky lot who got a defective device with said prevalent issues that I had never experienced owning Sonys, Samsungs & Motorolas day 1. Checking out their forums, seems like it was quite an issue on a couple of other users aswell.
I guess you havent monitored your network activities & again Im not talking about Installed Playstore stuff rather out of the box, pristine fresh setup. To my suprise, multiple chinese ips are getting phoned or sent data to. And with the situation in Ukraine with Russia(close with China) invading them, the more reason Im never gonna own any Chinese phones with their spy apps running in the background specially since my work deals with documents & stuff on my phone.
Yes, imo it aint safe(privacy & security) if youll know the amount of Chinese IP MIUI is phoning & sending data to. If it was me Id start looking for a more trust worthy not China phone since thats the whole reason they are selling cheap to collect data from unaware consumers, like Oneplus, Huawei, or some other China phone had been caught doing it before. But if you still insist then theres nothing I can do but just warn you about it. Or go custom rom.
Yeah, problem right now with limited android phone choice since LG dropped the ball making phones. Nokia not being competitive with their lackluster line up. Sony not being available in most country, limiting themselves to making flagships & a mediocre midrange phone. Asus also limiting themselves to flagships & completely stopped making midrangers. HTC?. Motorola this year only releasing flagships while their midrangers are only single speakers but some do have high refresh oled panels, Google Pixel is also pretty decent. Lastly Samsung have pretty good line up like the A52 series that are becoming cheaper since theyve been out for months now.
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- 25 Feb 2022
Anonymous, 25 Feb 2022In a couple of days I had Redmi Note 10 Pro just to try out... moreI've had the Redmi Note 10 Pro for 2 weeks now and having had two previous Xiaomi phones (and several dozen Androids) in the past i've never had issues like yours such as proximity sensor issues, app crashing, heating, "low" mic when making or receiving calls.
As I mentioned again i have not experience an "imbalanced" sound on the speakers. And I do not know why you keep insisting on wearing earbuds all the time as my needs and purposes are different from yours. I don't want to wear earbuds at work due to the nature of my work and i only use earbuds when i'm going to & from work listening to podcasts mainly.
Phones that are "rebadged" don't bother me as much. As long as it gets updates timely and optimisations too. No bootloop or bugfest here. Both my front & rear cameras are working fully. And just in case you are wondering my Redmi is on the January 2022 security update and on the very latest MIUI 13.0.3.0. I still have some Xiaomi apps that i can't uninstall but i have disabled their updates and cleared all data on them. And i never use Xiaomi's own cloud services and their Google Pay alternative. I only use Google Play Services or Paypal when purchasing goods online. I have severely limited the microphone and location permissions too. I've turned off ads and analytics gathering (apart from Speedtest app) and i only install apps with a 4.0 stars & above reviews via the Play Store. I don't go to "red flag" websites and go away from them immediately. So my question is: Am i still not safe? If Yes then why not? And what else can i do then?
I have a Samsung S20 FE 5G as a second phone but due to financial reasons and job uncertainty i'm selling it and keeping my Redmi for now. I do however have a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 tablet.
Right now if you look at the current phone models of Xiaomi/Redmi, Poco, Motorola and Samsung based on what i need from a device (price for specs ratio) Xiaomi so far provides me with all those mentioned earlier. I'm willing to wait and get a Moto again but it might be the Edge models if Moto decides to put dual stereo speakers, good adaptive OLED screens, big battery capacity and a really fast optical or physical fingerprint sensor. Until then i'm keeping my Redmi Note 10 Pro.
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- Anonymous
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- 25 Feb 2022
Gino76ph, 23 Feb 2022I did not have any issue of bootloops or imbalanced speaker... moreIn a couple of days I had Redmi Note 10 Pro just to try out a Chinese phone before I returned it, pretty much had buggy proximity when theres call screen dont wake up, random app crashes suddenly on a day to day basis, some heating when just browsing & social app useage, low mic the otherside cant hear. Yeah it all happened & the only reply of their customer support is wait for update to fix it! Like at that time it was the latest update it had at that few days of useage.
Sound is poor on the top while the bottom is where it really is strong, so if you cant hear the imbalance sound, probably wrong with your ears but whatever. it has 3.5mm jack anyway so just plug it with earphones or external speakers rather than rely on its weak built in speakers.
Rebadged yup, like right now they again are releasing Poco X4 Pro with identical internals as Note 11 Pro 5G & some others more, lmao. Pretty much questionable optimization with my bad experience. Miui is a total bugfest OS, good thing it didnt get into bootloop when it suddenly lags running multiple 4 apps. Just do some research about its buggy os like front camera not working, phone suddenly bootloops etc. & luckily it didnt come to that on my few days of useage. No problems with my Motorola that has no builtin bloatwares etc. as its almost stock anyway so bugs isnt that much prevalent & if your questioning updates, it has Jan 2022 in sync with whatever google releases on theirs.
Again, you cannot remove or disable Xiaomi preinstalled apps, even the included Google apps too. They are hidden & running in the background, 3rd party apps though can be removed but not Xiaomi ones specially that dodgy Analytics. No Im not talking about installign 3rd party apps or browsing some websites but just stock running idle with no apps installed from Playstore, monitoring my network multiple chinese ip addresses getting pinged or phoned home! Some are even flagged as spyware, adware, badware sites that is a redflag for me! Compared to Motorola, Sony & Samsung that only connects to their official sites & google.
Right, Moto One Ace 5G looks to be for the US, Moto One 5G is probably for global with the same spec. Never owned a Xiaomi upper midrange or a flagship phone since Id rather have a Motorola(cheaper), Samsung or Sony(more expensive) if id go for one at that level(better build quality), aswell for privacy & securty reasons. Redmi Note 10 Pro is considered midrange & had buggy proximity, low mic, laggy when running multiple apps, etc. probably caused by buggy MIUI if not hardware. My Motorola G 5G Plus is at a recent Jan 2022 security, pretty much in sync with what google provide.
Im not pushing you to ditch Xiaomi if its your choice, but just be wary of how many data they collect to their multiple Chinese ip addresses/sites with their stock MIUI unless you go for custom rom. Better setup some ip blockers in your home network & block some dodgy sites that gets phoned.
I never did say to you to buy a Motorola phone exclusively heck last I remember is if you where opting for a SD695 based phone just go for Xiaomi Note 11 Pro 5G. If you have a 400 budget then just go for a Samsung phone like A52s or A52 5G, id also suggest a Sony but they havent properly released a midrange phone last year besides their Xperia 10 III & they take too long to release their latest phones like the end of each year.
Apparently most Motos midrange to upper are 6.7" 90hz lcd panel, single speaker but they do have 3.5mm jack & expandable storage. Except with their Edge 20 & Pro that had 144hz oled but no jack, expandable & single speaker which sucks. Edge Fusion & Edge 20 Lite if available could be decent if you aren't nitpicky maybe even the Moto G100 that are probably now under 400 since theyve been out for months. Otherwise just go for a Samsung.
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- 24 Feb 2022
That Snapdragon 695 chipset supports 120Hz according to their website. So, not adding atleast 90Hz is a waste.
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- 23 Feb 2022
Anonymous, 22 Feb 2022Well more can be said to Xiaomi/Poco who releases phones do... moreI did not have any issue of bootloops or imbalanced speakers sound or proximity sensor issues or heating problems with my Mi 11 Lite 5G, Poco F3 and my current Redmi Note 10 Pro. My current Redmi has Dolby Atmos - listening via speakers is quite balanced and clean even when i connect my third-party, cheap £20 in-ear buds and listening to Google Podcast i can sense the sound enhancement of Dolby Atmos in there.
I do agree some Redmi phones are rebadged Xiaomi phones. But if it is more optimised then better. The mid-range/higher mid-range Xiaomi phones (including the "Lite" models) including mine gets security updates every month and received incremental MIUI updates (e.g.12.5.7.0, 12.5.9.0) prior to getting a major update like MIUI 13. My question is: how often Motorola updates it's phones?
I managed to remove Mi Pay. I don't use Xiaomi Cloud and you can disable almost every Xiaomi apps pre-installed on the phones. I mostly use Google and Microsoft apps and have limited Android permissions especially Location and microphone. I also use a third-party browser like Duck Duck Go to stay private on websites i go. N.B. I do not go to "dodgy" or porn websites if that is what you are suggesting so I have nothing to hide against anyone. So my question is: Do i still have something to "fear" based on the above?
They mostly sell " cheap" phones because you said it yourself...they rebadge some of their slightly older phones and they mostly operate online. Last time checked they only have one flasghip store here in the UK.
I did not have any build quality issues with any of my past Xiaomi phones. The only issue I had was with my Realme 7 Pro phone...a fall from my pocket of 3 feet shattered the front and back glass. So I ask you: what is the current Android and security version of your Moto G 5G Plus phone?
The Moto One Ace 5G does not exist in the UK. and FYI a used Mi 11 Lite NE 5G can cost around £250 or below. Do your research man.
Yes I had Motorola phones in the past. Plenty of them. Why i stopped buying them? Because Xiaomi and Samsung happened.
Based on everything i mentioned here do you think I still have to ditch my Redmi and go elsewhere?
And as i said dual stereo speakers, at least 6.5" AMOLED screen, fast 33w or higher charging, IP53 rating, 1080p 60Hz screen (or adaptive 120Hz) are deal breakers. Tell me a Moto phone under £400/$400 that has these and a promised monthly security updates and 3 years worth of Android updates then i'll be happily part with my Xiaomi/Redmi phone.
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- 23 Feb 2022
Anonymous, 22 Feb 2022Well more can be said to Xiaomi/Poco who releases phones do... moreditto the reasons as to why i bought motos for all my family members. had horrible experience with mi a1. it's screen just detached from the frame as if it were a modular phone or something(hahaha). horrible build even though mi a series had stock android (one) s/w.
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- 22 Feb 2022
Gino76ph, 21 Feb 2022My experience with having a Xiaomi/Redmi/Poco is this...
B... moreWell more can be said to Xiaomi/Poco who releases phones double or even triple the amount than Motorola every year or maybe month, some are even the same actual phone but rebadged. That makes their updates or optimization even worse due to the amount of phones they pump out w/c is why even the most basic issue with their proximity sensor bug is still prevalent on some users, app crashes(besides bootloops), its not rocket science but a fact. If you cant differentiate the left or right sound of those redmi phones, good for you then cause if it was me rather jack it up to my external speakers specially if work is involved, I wouldnt logically risk it with its low quality imbalanced sound.
No! You cannot uninstall or disable Xiaomi apps like mipay, mi account, analytics, etc. that are either hidden or running in the background. You also cannot disable preinstalled google apps if you want to without hacking it. Motorola on the otherhand have no builtin analytics, etc. mostlikely spy stuff running in the background(even if Lenovo owns them), you can even disable their preinstalled Moto apps & google apps too. I cant even imaging the amount of dodgy websites or ip addresses Xiaomi phones ping or send data home to if you know how to monitor your network activities like most of them are dodgy chinese hence the reason I stopped owning one after that.
The reason they sell cheap phones is well as you said, built-in ads & hidden spy apps running in background sending data to dodgy chinese websites even if you dont consent to their terms. While Samsung/Moto/Sony(phones that I or family own) only pings like 2 to 4 websites mainly to their official websites & google by tracking the ip addresses & locating them.
Build quality is also a reason, as there have been bootloop issues on some Xiaomi phones, dodgy proximity sensor, low mic reciever, some even heating problems. Haven't heard much about motorola phones mainly the midrange ones as I have good experience with my Moto G 5G Plus as my daily driver.
If you just gonna compare to phones, be sure they are actually the same or close built like there is no phone with SD778 in it that costs 250. But with SD750G there is Moto One Ace 5G & a Redmi Note 9 Pro(china) as the global is only SD720. Well for me, Motorola is what I will go for & if I want to up my budget Samsung or Sony. You know my reasons I wont buy any Xiaomi phones if you read well.
Dunno if you owned a Motorola Android phone but whatever. I owned a Xiaomi phone then after both buggy software & dodgy chinese pinging sites experience never gonna buy one again.
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- 21 Feb 2022
Anonymous, 21 Feb 2022Dont expect too much on those stereo speakers of said phone... moreMy experience with having a Xiaomi/Redmi/Poco is this...
Being a non-stock Android MIUI is very fluid and has very good performance. And i'm not talking about benchmarks coz i don't believe in them. Moto may have "near stock Android" but having too may devices mean updates and optimisations to the UI can become slow/stagnant/untimely in time. It's not rocket science.
The dual stereo speakers of the phones i had have been on the " Very good rating" consistently and can churn out volume of at least 80dB & above. Due to my needs and job role I need a phone with loud speakers. Not a single mono/stereo with Moto.
You can easily uninstall more than 90% of the bloatware of these phones and i'm not talking about rooting it. You can also easily disable or limit the ads. And besides if there are any ads it's not intrusive or makes your experience suffer.
In terms of "specs for price" ratio Xiaomi has been on top even vs Samsung and OnePlus/Oppo brands. Would you go for a Moto with SD778G, 60Hz IPS screen, single mono speakers for £250 or a Xiaomi with 750G, AMOLED screen, dual stereo speakers for £250? Your welcome.
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- 21 Feb 2022
Gino76ph, 18 Feb 2022I don't listen with earbuds or headphones on when i�... moreDont expect too much on those stereo speakers of said phones you had in mind since their sound is either weak, imbalanced, bad sound that makes it not worth listening to but instead just plug in headphones or external speakers or go wireless. IP53 is just the same with what moto advertises as water repelent, means dust cant enter aswell, it has rubber gasket on sim tray, its ports & rubbery kind of adhesive if you checkout disassembly vids. Eitherway its moot since water damage does not cover warranty anyways. Dunno about Moto having bad updates but I have a Moto G 5G Plus & whenever there is google security updates it always syncs with them besides annual stability updates & their OS is one of the best being close to stock with 0 bloatwares besides Moto Apps that can also be disabled if wanted unlike xiaomi/poco MIUI that is not only full of bloatwares that cant be disabled or removed, is buggy to the point that can cause bootloop in some occasiones besides rare security updates.
But its up to you. Motorola tends to be slightly more expensive than Xiaomi/Poco but still cheaper than Samsung, kinda like in between them.
Anyway SD695 SoC is crap since it cant record 4k vid & no eis. But if you still insist just go for the Note 11 pro 5G.
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- 18 Feb 2022
Anonymous, 17 Feb 2022Moto phones are usually water repelant build w/c translates... moreI don't listen with earbuds or headphones on when i'm at home or at work so having dual stereo speakers are a must for me. Most Moto phones are deemed splash resistant only. IP53 rating (which are found in most Xiaomi/Poco phones are both splash and dust resistance. There is a difference. Motorola phones have been said to be the worse in updates because of so many models out there. They seem to be not investing in Android and security updates. I could be wrong and I'm happy to be proven wrong.
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- 17 Feb 2022
Gino76ph, 15 Feb 2022I'm still waiting for the G71 to be available here in ... moreMoto phones are usually water repelant build w/c translates to ip53 splash resistance. Just terminology difference but functions the same.
Stereo speakers is not an issue if it has 3.5mm jack, xiaomi/realme/etc. none flagship phones have unbalanced sound anyway & can be a nuisance when listening.
Main issue though is this doesnt have sdcard slot which is a bummer compared to other phones using same sd695 soc.
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- 15 Feb 2022
Anonymous, 15 Feb 2022Motorola better hardware and software besides the 1 os upgr... moreI'm still waiting for the G71 to be available here in the UK. But the other issues is for the specs you can get more features on a Realme, Xiaomi/Poco/Redmi phone such as IP53 rating and dual stereo speakers which for me is a deal breaker.
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- 15 Feb 2022
Gino76ph, 13 Feb 2022Would you say Xiaomi/Poco or Realme is still better?Motorola better hardware and software besides the 1 os upgrade thing. They pretty much do monthly security updates or software optimizations often. Also they have very stable android os being close to stock with no bloatwares unlike realme & xiaomi. So yeah, motorola is definitely better. Just get the snapdragon variant since motorola also has a wide variety of custom roms available.
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- 13 Feb 2022
Anonymous, 13 Feb 2022Motorola sells good hardware but crap 1 os upgrade only. So... moreWould you say Xiaomi/Poco or Realme is still better?
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- 13 Feb 2022
Gino76ph, 12 Feb 2022On paper the specs of the G71 5G are great. But were still ... moreMotorola sells good hardware but crap 1 os upgrade only. So if youre an os upgrade freak dont get motorola.
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- 12 Feb 2022
On paper the specs of the G71 5G are great. But were still waiting here in the UK so this depends on what the price will be. Does anyone know when will this release in the UK or Europe? And does it have dual stereo speakers? Has Motorola's update system improved or is still considered crap?