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Rageplay, 01 Feb 2023This had to be a phone with 3,5mm and MicroSD, as the think... morethe craze of wireless earbuds and cloud storage are too excessive now. apple set the trend for milking customers. that started from iphone 7 first. then the charging brick removed from iphone 12 series. to make the package slimmer, then others follow suits too. i might couldnt tell between iphone 13 pro max and s22 ultra.

    This had to be a phone with 3,5mm and MicroSD, as the thinkpad laptops are quite modular and populair.. too bad

      Total rubbish!

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        • Dishonored
        • ftx
        • 01 Feb 2023

        When i put my.money on something i need to get the most benifits according to how much i spent ;)

        Dont fanboy over one or another grow up kid these phone from soc to bterry to cam to os to updates
        Nothing is good for 1000€

          Dishonored , 01 Feb 2023Thats the dumbest answer one could give Stop being and idi... moreStop yourself, from buying a phone for its "camera". 999MP and 500x zoom, and they still won't be able to match a camera from 1990.

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            • Anonymous
            • n1c
            • 01 Feb 2023

            Super Android 22, 31 Jan 2023My headphones automatically connect to my phone when I turn... moreFirstly, what qualification do you have to claim "false that wired quality than wireless"? All the high end audiophile players have not one, but multiple physical headphone jacks including 4.5mm. Lol at trypophobic headphone jack haters. If wireless was better then they'd get rid of them. The best headphones are all wired of any given price. Physically, wired transmission is much more efficient, which is why electricity around your home goes through copper wire. And ethernet is always more efficient than wifi. Again, I should probably don't expect non technical people to know even such basic things.

            Oh yes, lossless audio transmission over bluetooth drains battery more. I'd not recommend using it when you need wireless. Convenience on the go was main reason for wireless, lossless transmission contradicts that. On top of that you got outside noise to cancel, and ANC degrades audio quality, making lossless pointless. Now you need even more power, maybe need to carry power brick around. Safety is a great issue as well, you'd be totally cut off from outside world. So leave your high quality listening until you're at comfort of home!

            Your assume that wire is better in very few specific cases. That "few" and "specific" case is actually the most common case. I believe most people listen to their phone when sitting or lying down at their home (without switching between multiple devices), especially after Covid. The "drawback" of having to going to toilet without headphone is overwhelmed by the benefit of wire in that case. I can also argue that it's taking break for one's ears. If someone's going to toilet so frequently that it's becoming annoying to take off headphones then should consult doctor first.

            As for working from home, it can actually be a stronger case for headphone jack. You'd literally be sitting/lying all day. I do aknowledge some jobs may demand wireless where you need to be connected and listen to whole day, even when going around house, but that's not all jobs.

            Headphone jack and microSD card doesn't compromise rigidity. Claiming they do is like saying drilling a small hole on walls at home "compromises" its rigidity, so don't put a clock on your new home, lol. All the rugged phones have them. Whereas the phones that compromise durability for looks are the ones have removed them. Sony with headphone jack provides ip65 rating alongside ip68. Do you even know what ip65 is and why it matters?
            Poco x5 pro and A52s have headphone jack and microSD card, they're quite cheap. Motorola G100 has them, its quite cheap too.

            If you're out if warranty then no free replacement anymore. Also if they decide its not a manufacturer defect then even warranty won't help.
            If it doesn't have detachable cable then it's very cheap to replace whole thing, less than £10. If it has detachable cable (mmcx or two pin for IEM, 2.5mm/3.5mm for on and over ear usually) they certainly lot less than £15. You can even find for less than £5, including mic! Still physically more capable than wireless.

            Your final sentence doesn't make much sense. Do you mean your wireless headphone has 3.5mm jack? It may have, but then it's probably not an earbud, probably on ear or over ear instead. At any case, you're having to resort to wire in case of failure. But now you're relying on your USB C port. The drawback of overuse of USB C port has already been mentioned, and you need a dongle on top of that. Why not just accept a 3.5mm port would simply be better in that case while having no drawback?

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              • rp8
              • 01 Feb 2023

              Olympus Oms, 01 Feb 2023One does simply not buy a phone for the "camera".... moreThats the dumbest answer one could give
              Stop being and idiotic fanboy
              Just give me a reason to spend 1000€ on these garbage ?
              No compétitive Ui/nor software update/nor a gaming phone/nor adapted to 2022 when phone with better soc and caméra for some bucks, u love gen1 theres more even cheaper with same soc u get better all around phone

              I think before i buy , u clearly throw ur brain

                Dishonored , 31 Jan 20231000 euro for a phone with 2depth cam and basic 13m UW And... moreOne does simply not buy a phone for the "camera". So keep laughing of your own mistake.

                But I'm actually surprised it's below 1500$.

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                  • Stinger
                  • N1q
                  • 31 Jan 2023

                  Expensive AF ... moto x40 id half the price than this B.S

                    Anonymous, 30 Jan 2023Ok, maybe should have been more specific. What about sittin... moreMy headphones automatically connect to my phone when I turn my headphones on and does a connection noise to confirm it, my TV prompts me to connect (I have to press the select button for yes to connect when it sees the headphones turned on). If I have headphones connected to the TV and phone, it's playing sound from the TV and I then start playing music/make a call on my phone it instantly swaps to my phone without me having to do anything so I've never had any of these issues, because they aren't anymore. A lot of people I know still work from home so having that level of access and flexibility with little to no effort is what most people actually want (got mates with £2000-£3000 audiophile set ups yet stick to £200-£300 wireless headphones for ease of use). For relaxing around home it makes even more sense, your laying down but want to go toilet or make food, can leave the device (phone, laptop, the TV) in the frontroom, go do what you need to do and never worry about catching wires or having to have the devices with you all the time and you don't miss any audio.

                    False that wired is better quality than wireless, since like the SD 865, maybe the 855, have had looseless wireless audio. Most music you'll listen to including locally stored files, will be "CD quality" at best and BT headphones can play back that perfectly fine (companies like Oppo are developing custom Bluetooth chips to increase audio quality and reduce power consumption and delay). You're not listening to studio quality music and if you are, you're going to need wired headphones costing atleast double that of the BT headphones (that's if the phone has a capable DaC, from what I've read a lot of good quality BT headphones have their own DaC).

                    Well having a jack actually increases costs to the phones manufacturering, increases phones thickness/size, increases cost to make them water resistant too and can affect the phones structural rigidity too. It makes sense Sony and Asus phones have them, a gaming phone which you need direct 3d sound for FPS games for example and Sony phones can be used with their professional cameras so having a jack and sd slot makes actual sense. Name me a phone with a headphone jack that can be submerged to 6m under water other than iPhones?

                    So I'm ignorant saying tech isn't 10 years old anymore and the development of tech has made all the issues you've brought up redundant except to a literal minority of phone users in very VERY spefic use cases(which again would increases prices on phones even more which it does an Asus and Sony phones unfortunately).

                    Also generally for repairs companies will more readily replace broken wireless headphones, for free, because of hardware defects or problems wireless headphones can have (been through it before, replaced £200 for free and I kept the original pair which can still be used). Wired headphones have an insanely bad flaw, no wire, no sound. There is other flaws but that should be enough really. If your wired headphones don't have a detachable wire, goodbye headphones and if they do and wire breaks, that's money to replace the wire which for some headphones can cost £15 or more. (if BT module fails I still have a 3.5 jack, just plug my dongle in to the phone and I'm up and running again, best of both worlds).

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                      • AnonD-731363
                      • Lfw
                      • 31 Jan 2023

                      Anonymous, 31 Jan 2023phone battery will die in 2-3 years ... you should buy a pc... moreMan but i am posting on PC right now from home and at morning from work.
                      And phone battery last depends on user.
                      Know few of my customers which used same battery for phone for 10 yeears and phone still lasted 3 days. It was Nokia 3310 of the old times.
                      Even new devices can retain 80-90% battery capacity after 2 years.
                      Or even 100% if put into closet or drawer for 2 years but thats not the case.
                      Everything heading towards greener more environmental friendly ways to go with world and life. Those people making devices for us heading this way.
                      Othervise we would be long time dead.

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                        • rp8
                        • 31 Jan 2023

                        1000 euro for a phone with 2depth cam and basic 13m UW
                        And old soc for current (pricing) hahahaha....

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                          • AnonD-731363
                          • Lfw
                          • 31 Jan 2023

                          swaraj, 31 Jan 2023you will die , so why live ?? everything will dissappear an... moreMan brands will deny.
                          Like with sealed batteries, no charger in box no slot for jack and for micro sd card.
                          Whether you want or no greener the environmental way is the future.
                          And thats something nobody can deny.

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                            • AnonD-731363
                            • Lfw
                            • 31 Jan 2023

                            Anonymous, 30 Jan 2023Wireless can fail too, and will run out of charge. Replacem... moreMan yes wired is not aproporiate.
                            Maybe 5-10 20 even 50 years ago not now.
                            Wireless is the future it always was and it will always be.
                            Like many else.
                            Greener ways will always prevail over others.

                              6.6" phone with compact dimensions. That's nice.

                                Anonymous, 30 Jan 2023Ok, maybe should have been more specific. What about sittin... moreThey remove the jack because they think it takes so much space

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • Hkt
                                  • 31 Jan 2023

                                  AnonD-731363, 30 Jan 2023Wired and better??? Wired is based on cables and cables wi... morephone battery will die in 2-3 years ... you should buy a pc and stop posting comment on mobile tech forum

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                                    • swaraj
                                    • Hkt
                                    • 31 Jan 2023

                                    AnonD-731363, 30 Jan 2023Wired and better??? Wired is based on cables and cables wi... moreyou will die , so why live ?? everything will dissappear and disintegrate with time . wired , wireless ... point is how well we savour it when its alive .

                                    to some people audio output quality matter more than convenience so they buy wired . nobody should deny them that choice .

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                                      • thv
                                      • 31 Jan 2023

                                      Really need rugged smartphone for my work and daily driver. Rugged phone like Nokia XR20. Good camera, smooth pure clean Android like Pixel. Hope this thinkphone can answer. is it true this phone B2B only ? terima kasih.

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • 39y
                                        • 30 Jan 2023

                                        AnonD-731363, 30 Jan 2023Wired and better??? Wired is based on cables and cables wi... moreWireless can fail too, and will run out of charge. Replacement is more expensive. Wired can break, but replacement is easy and cheap. Btw, wire breakage is overstated. If you're just using them at home, there's very little chance of breaking. In case it breaks, it's very economical to have many cheap wired headphones at your disposal. But good ones get removable cable with mmcx connector so just wire needs to be replaced. And, if needed, you can just connect a bluetooth module when going out!
                                        Learn to make smart use of both technology at your advantage. Advocating against a technology when not appropriate is stupid.