Antennagate ain't over, Samsung and Motorola respond, too

19 July, 2010
After RIM, HTC and Nokia, it was about time for the respond of the rest of the companies affected by Apple's statements last Friday. Well, here is what Samsung and Motorola have to say about the whole shebang...

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  • Anonymous
  • p@K
  • 20 Jul 2010

I don't know why people love Iphone, Nothing is special about that Phone, I had Thre of the iphones but they are limited funcionality, Even In Iphones Before signal was never good,I still did'nt try the iphone 4 But I am not intending to buy it,There are a lot better phones out there,
For me Nokia Is still The King, The Father of Phones And nothing can change that ever.

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    • Dave
    • myA
    • 20 Jul 2010

    Anonymous, 20 Jul 2010>>>> easily scratched screen? WRONG. The only p... moreI like this guy

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      • Anonymous
      • utX
      • 20 Jul 2010

      SJ watch and learn

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        • Anonymous
        • vGR
        • 20 Jul 2010

        Anonymous, 20 Jul 2010 easily scratched screen? WRONG. The only problem is that t... more>>>> easily scratched screen? WRONG. The only problem is that the screen seems to shatter when dropped on concrete a few times in a row. The screen is actually quite scratch resistant

        Engadget's iPhone 4 test unit scratched within the first week. Check out Engadget for the article they put out at the time.

        >>>> everyone raving about a galaxy s....no flash,no gyro axis gaming,if u hold the phone on the top right with ur hand calls r dropped...y is it that all these phones r coming out with facebook etc applications....who was the first to put such applications on there phones???

        Galaxy S too has Gyro sensor in certain variations. In any case, all American variations have it. There are different variations of the Galaxy S for different locales.

        As for camera flash, it isn't there because the camera can take decent photos in night mode even in low light conditions. So flash is mostly not necessary for this phone. And don't forget while that while iPhone 4 is the fist iPhone to incorporate flash, Samsung had led flash in its phones for a long time and they have deliberately dropped it in the Galaxy S.

        As for call dropping, no Galaxy S does not drop calls like iPhone 4. The signal bar goes down in certain low signal areas when the phone is held in a certain way and unlike iPhone 4, its not the natural way you hold a phone. Also only a couple of people have ever reported the issue on the internet compared to 17k people who have officially complained to Apple about issue even by Apples own figures. Further Samsung was not trying to sell a rubber band for $30 to fix the issue and neither were they recommending use of cases.

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          • deep space bar
          • q}@
          • 20 Jul 2010

          fu$1, 20 Jul 2010Meh atleast my gf doesnt have a spot where if i touch her, ... morewhen you that spot FULL BAR XD and she connects without problems

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            • Alui
            • Am9
            • 20 Jul 2010

            waka waka, 20 Jul 2010wat outdated features mate? everyone raving about a galaxy... moreOK, I get it. You sold a lot of iPhones, so that's why Samsung Galaxy S is crap. LOL/ROFL. I use the Galaxy S for making pictures and it's fine without the flash for camera. I can make good pictures inside, I doubt the flash light would be usefull in very dark rooms when making photos to objects 3-4 meters away.
            But hey, you know what? Galaxy S has flash for web, which is more important. I can make car configurations, play free flash games, see videos on ANY site, use swipe, download music, avi, MPEG4, DIVX movies from my PC (and see them in their native format 9:16). I bet your iPhone 4 clients cant do that. And let me tell you, whatever iPhone 4 can do (30fps 720p video recording, copy/paste, wireless tethering) Galaxy S can match it or better it.

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              • fu$1
              • fu$
              • 20 Jul 2010

              Anonymous, 20 Jul 2010You want it, buy it; you don't want it, then don't buy it. ... moreMeh atleast my gf doesnt have a spot where if i touch her, she completely loses connection

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                • vodamick
                • 9Ge
                • 20 Jul 2010

                hurry up iphone and land in ireland !!!!!

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                  • Anonymous
                  • 9xI
                  • 20 Jul 2010

                  You want it, buy it; you don't want it, then don't buy it. Nothing Perfect. Like your relationship/marriage. No complaint!!!

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                    • Gansta
                    • n$g
                    • 20 Jul 2010

                    Apple and their iphone is a joke. I've got an Iphone 3GS and the quality of the call is rubbish compared to the likes of Nokia, HTC and SE. What's worrying is the fact these people with iphone 4 are settling for a pile of crap. How can Apple get away without some governing body taking action for selling non functioning equipment? If nothing is done about it then this sets the path for other manufacturers to release crap equipment and expect the general public to accept it. Why should a user have to settle for an iphone 4 and have to hold it in a certain way or use some crappy case? Microsoft was charged a ton load of cash for Internet Explorer 8 by the EU. Why isn't Apple not been taken to court for faulty equipment on a mass level? Surely they should be forced to do a mass recall. Hell car manufacturers do all the time so why not them?

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                      • Anonymous
                      • Iax
                      • 20 Jul 2010

                      fu$1, 20 Jul 2010 full browsing experience in iphone (are you serious ? You... moreI can't even be bothered reading that wall of text

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                        • fu$1
                        • fu$
                        • 20 Jul 2010

                        Orlinaga, 20 Jul 2010The Iphone and all the others smartphones have never been m... moreJust about every cell phone in
                        current production has the
                        antenna located at the bottom.
                        This insures that the radiating
                        portion of the antenna is
                        furthest from the head. This is according to the FCC so you cant just put your antenna any where you want

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                          • Orlinaga
                          • pFG
                          • 20 Jul 2010

                          The Iphone and all the others smartphones have never been made to be REAL PHONES, they are gadgets, so im not surprised that the most important thing is not working, im surprised that the defect come from Apple..... it is not so hard and ugly if the antenna is at the up side of the phone (even hided) it will be gr8.

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                            • fu$1
                            • fu$
                            • 20 Jul 2010

                            waka waka, 20 Jul 2010excuse me...gaming alot better on iphone as it has both gyr... more
                            full browsing experience in iphone (are you serious ? You don't even have flash content support how do you call that full web browsing experience as i said before use the nokia n900 and then compare it to your toy).and then as typical iphone users you say who needs to print pics taken by a camera phone hellooo mate last year i remember many fans saying who needs 5 megapixels i only need 3.2its enough for me thats what you keep on sayin untill apple decides to just add one or two things that you lacked. What companies (like nokia )r tryin to do is to produce the ultimate device that'll replace your digital camera so that you don't need to walk with many gadgets when you are on a trip or somethin similar,the nokia n8 is a good example and it easily beats many point n shoot digital cameras in its imaging capabilities(of course remove the optical zoom) and thats the right direction towards reachin this goal and i.ve seen sample pics taken by it n look very impressive. Ok you can't transfer files to your toy without itunes is this is a joke ?with the n8 for example you can transfer to and fro files a usb flash disk or another phone but your so called best smartphone is still stuck on itunes to just transfer your files to the phone, n file sharing via bluetooth well thats a no go. Hmmm does that sound like a device a serious business man who is in need of sharing various documents with people ? File sharing is a very important feature but iphone users will tell you meh who needs it. Facetime wow thats innovative why is it limited to wifi n the person you call must have iphone 4,thats a joke from apple what they do is limit the functionality of their phone now they've stepped over the line by limiting how users hold their phone so that they get a proper netn reception. Don't tell me to jailbreak the iphone blah blah i don't really have time to deal with hacks as i'd rather buy a phone that comes with all the features i want preloaded with the manufacturer. One more thing do you really believe apple are just giving out free cases to their users because they love them without knowing they made a mistake by the placement of their antenna isn't that odd? They are responding to this issue in extreme arrogance first its the user who they blame for not holding the phone the right way, then its the formula they used that is wrong (why the hell on earth would you mess up on the first place )then its a case that is common to all mobile phones and then drag down other phones to their level while they are the one win messed up.(i.ve used the iphone 3gs for one year and many high and low end phones from nokia and samsung for more than 10 years and have never seen any network problems). IMO iphone is a great device for midrange uses such as simple internet uses and little music here and there and some fun and games. For us advanced users we need something with a pro feel and has minimal limitations as to what we can do with it, up to now maemo/meego and android are promising.

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                              • waka waka
                              • M3s
                              • 20 Jul 2010

                              Anonymous, 20 Jul 2010Lol. Sure, iphone 4 is best on the market.... except it has... morewat outdated features mate?
                              everyone raving about a galaxy s....no flash,no gyro axis gaming,if u hold the phone on the top right with ur hand calls r dropped...y is it that all these phones r coming out with facebook etc applications....who was the first to put such applications on there phones???


                              mate ive sold lots of iphone 4,i have 1 my self....it doesnt drop calls...only simple americans and brittish that love whinning and claiming compensation

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                                • JobsMadeinAfrica
                                • Mf5
                                • 20 Jul 2010

                                I was not aware that the reception issue got this bad. I am a Zimbabwean & after what Jobs did I am wondering if he is better than Robert Mugabe, who messed the economy & point at England. I have known these forums to have fierce defenders of iphones & how iphone beats everyone else. Could it be that Steve Jobs has people on his payroll who are paid to do PR for his company, defend his brands. The antennagate revealed that to me or else Steve Jobs and the iphone users are the same. His reply to the shareholders was not good either, Steve you took time copying other mobile companies and now that there is a fault you blame them, be innovative, dont change specs on other handsets & cover them in an Apple log then resale at exorbitant prices. Listen to the market or else you become like Lehman, GM et al. Good luck, there is still time to refresh your brand by doing good.

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • IaH
                                  • 20 Jul 2010

                                  Anonymous, 20 Jul 2010Lol. Sure, iphone 4 is best on the market.... except it has... more easily scratched screen? WRONG. The only problem is that the screen seems to shatter when dropped on concrete a few times in a row. The screen is actually quite scratch resistant (and Im not talking about the hard scoring seen in videos)

                                  And how can the camera be out dated? You're thinking more MP = better, which is WRONG.

                                  And as for the gyroscope, Erm DUH, it's not a new invention, but has it ever been used in a mass produced smartphone before? That's what's so innovative. Apple improves existing Tech. Don't you get it??

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                                    • stwpid
                                    • M3s
                                    • 20 Jul 2010

                                    Anonymous, 20 Jul 2010Lol. Sure, iphone 4 is best on the market.... except it has... morelook and friendly os? MEAN NOTHING MATE!

                                    your just listening to the 'word of mouth' and cant actually ecxpress your own opinion cos you know nothing!

                                    i have nothing against other phones cos its all opinionated at the end of the day but one thing thats fact>> IT IS THE BEST PHONE ON THE MARKET BOOYA!

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • yyX
                                      • 20 Jul 2010

                                      stwpid, 20 Jul 2010WAKA WAKA my main mann smoking green? haa that put the ... moreLol. Sure, iphone 4 is best on the market.... except it has outdated features and drops calls if you hold it normally. Oh wait, that makes it the worst phone on the market! How you can say its the best I don't know, you are obviously the one smoking the green. All iphone 4 has is user friendly OS. Now the OS is very very good I admit, but everything else is standard/rubbish.

                                      Oh look its finally got video calling. Oh but wait, you can only use it with wi-fi. Oh but wait, if you have access to wi-fi, your probably in a sit-down location, in which case it'd be much better to use skype on a laptop. Absolutely useless. Along with easily scratched screen, no bluetooth file transfers, no divx, no flash in browser, no mass storage, outdated camera etc etc. oh and did I forget to mention YOU CAN'T MAKE A DECENT CALL WITH IT. WORST - PHONE - EVER! (but hey if all you care about are looks and friendly OS then sure - best phone ever)

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                                        • waka waka
                                        • M3s
                                        • 20 Jul 2010

                                        Max Scott Killian, 20 Jul 2010iPhone 4, Simply The Same Features As iPhone 3GS With Add-O... moreall phones r a continuation of older phones...wat u doing on this website anyway...clearly u have no idea wat u just said...

                                        wat a disaster...