German Stiftung Warentest: iPhone 4 is the real signal loser

26 July, 2010
The popular German foundation Stiftung Warentest, which is the regional authority on consumer product testing accommodated the recently unveiled Apple iPhone 4 in its lab and tested its notorious...

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  • !!!!
  • 9x0
  • 27 Jul 2010

to iphone4 lovers/pro iphone here..whatever you call yourself..

when would you accept the fact the iphone4 is a failure???

when would you accept the fact that SJ has manipulated you all???

its all over the news..CNN..BBC..FOX...

the delay apple made on the white iphone4, corroborates all that has been said and done by apple and its critiques( its a failure).

pity to those who are trying to convice ihpone4 "haters" that they are wrong..pity more to those owners(iphone4) i think you all know why.

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    • Anonymous
    • Mty
    • 27 Jul 2010

    Anonymous, 27 Jul 2010if you look and open your eyes and look at other phones in ... moreDuh.Other phones are covered because they are internal antenna not because of a screw up like with iphone4 external antenna.

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      • Anonymous
      • P@1
      • 27 Jul 2010

      Anonymous, 27 Jul 2010The thing I find most interesting about all this is Nokia h... more"ll phones have negatives just as strong as this one, but iPhone users don't hate other brands, other brand users hate iPhones... It's petty" -tAWW

      I agree with you buddy

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        • Anonymous
        • PWt
        • 27 Jul 2010

        Anonymous, 27 Jul 2010it is not fixed its just covered.if you look and open your eyes and look at other phones in market. They all covered my friend.

        Apple did put it outside for performance and if you do no like it or happy then cover it.

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          • Bufung
          • PIZ
          • 27 Jul 2010

          Drop call not a big deal?? then what device is this? shall we don't call this a Phone? or shall Apple rename it to I-Porn?

          I think a lot of Iphone4 fanboy forgot this is a phone..A phone.. call is the most important/most basic thing...

          Agree with some of u out there.. people who don't mind this problem mostly are people who use this not really as a phone.. instead.. as a gaming device or maybe show off device? go n get an IPod touch better...

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            • Anonymous
            • PWt
            • 27 Jul 2010

            Someone say on CNN few weeks ago. Apple iPhone is not just phone. It is like a religion that after you got one and love it for past few years you will not give it up.

            We have 3 of them in family and we have no problem. We owen iPhone 4, Galaxy S, Desire and BB 9700. They are great but iPhone 4 is the best. All these news come and talk from people that hate Apple. The iPhone 4 is great and we love the new look and features

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              • Anonymous
              • Rxn
              • 27 Jul 2010

              Billy, 26 Jul 2010I am not apple user but go and discuss something else. This... moreif your'e so bored... you are more than welcome not to comment here.

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                • deep space bar
                • q}Z
                • 27 Jul 2010

                Anonymous, 27 Jul 2010The thing I find most interesting about all this is Nokia h... moreum has some hit you with a rock

                um every iphone or apple user makes demeans every other brand
                where have you been ?

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                  • benzas
                  • m5s
                  • 27 Jul 2010

                  My work is Entertainment Business, To be honest I HAVE NEVER SEEN an High Intelligent person with an iphone in his hands. The persons who owns it 12-16yr Kids.

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                    • Anonymous
                    • tAW
                    • 27 Jul 2010

                    The thing I find most interesting about all this is Nokia have been rolling out fault laden handsets for the past 3-4 years now, Samsungs raved on about AMOLED's are a joke as they have terrible colour balance, offer poor power consumption in real world situations (hence why Android uses black backgrounds) change is to a white one and watch your battery die, they have poor lifespan not just till they die but they fade quickly and the sunlight legibility although improved, still isn't good. Yet people don't notice any of this because they don't want to look for it. HTC has one of the poorest build qualities in the industry, once again no one talks about it. All phones have negatives just as strong as this one, but iPhone users don't hate other brands, other brand users hate iPhones... It's petty. I'm not saying that this antenna issue isn't frustrating, but be fair, it is still the most polished phone on the market.

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                      • Anonymous
                      • FJR
                      • 27 Jul 2010

                      deep space bar, 27 Jul 2010covering and fixing are two different things maybe you sho... moreI know that covering and fixing are two different things. But you see, there's no fix for antennagate yet. Even if Apple recalls the iphone, it would still have a weak spot. And then what? Recall it again?

                      A case, although not a permanent fix, pretty much eliminates the problem as if it does not exist. The ip4 works really well, why are you insisting that there's a big problem when there's none. And you are not even using the damn phone.

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                        • Billy
                        • wYB
                        • 27 Jul 2010

                        Anonymous, 27 Jul 2010Toyota did a recall for 8,000 tacomas because less then 2% ... moreYou can't compare the iphone4 situation to the Toyota. Dropped calls won't result in a loss of life, unlike defective cars. So even a 2% chance of death will demand a recall. A loss of signal for a recall is absurd. A lot of phones and digital cameras have buggy OS. Should they recall all of it until they're 100% bug free?

                        I'm no fan of Steve Jobs by the way. The way Apple is handling this problem by nitpicking other phones taints the Apple brand. It makes Jobs look like a weasel. The phone isn't what most of us is bashing, it's Job's weasel attitude.

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                          • benzas
                          • m5s
                          • 27 Jul 2010

                          just tested iPhone4 in UK Apple store.

                          Orange - 4 network lines, after finger touch drops till 1 (slow)
                          O2 - 4 network lines after finger touch drops till 1 (fast)
                          3Three - 4 network lines after finger touch drops till 0 (fast) & it starts to search for network. After finger released took about 1 minute to get back to network.

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                            • Hongdolaxi
                            • SpG
                            • 27 Jul 2010

                            I just heard a phase from a friend, he said: "Buying the iphone 4 is same as calling a prostitute, it's up to you if you want to use the condom, but the prostitute doesn't take any responsibility of this."

                            In this case, I have to say Jobs is really better than a prostitute, as he is giving his "customers" a condom/case, whatever you name it.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • FJR
                              • 27 Jul 2010

                              [deleted post]Gosh, why are you so upset?  At least Steve gave us free cases.  How about you?  What have you given us?  Nothing but hate.  If you really care so much for us, why don't you buy us the smartphone that you think is best for us?  If you can't, then shut your pie hole and let other people be :)

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                                • Anonymous
                                • FJR
                                • 27 Jul 2010

                                Anonymous, 27 Jul 2010you are just making excuses for apple who should have done ... moreI am not making excuses for Apple at all.  I recognize its imperfections, but at the same time I know that it's not a big deal because the workaround to remedy the issue is very simple.  If the ip4 needs to be recalled, then let the court order it, not the non-iphone users who has nothing to do with this at all.  Again, I admit that eventhough attenuation exists on every phone, the ip4's external antenna is more sensitive to it.  But we don't mind because we also know that the ip4's improved reception and call quality is also because of this new antenna design.  We win some, we lose some.  

                                Whether the white ip4 would or wouldn't have this issue, it won't be that big of a deal because our black ip4 is working just fine anyway.  

                                As for Toyota, it was their business decision to do a recall of those Tacomas.  They didn't have to, but because they were already faced with other recall issues, they thought it best to recall those Tacomas anyway.  

                                You said that Apple's offer of a bumper would turn people off.  Well you're wrong.  Ip4 are still sold out.  The only ones who acted negatively are non-ip4 users who have nothing to do with the iphone, lol.

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                                  • deep space bar
                                  • q}Z
                                  • 27 Jul 2010

                                  Anonymous, 27 Jul 2010Thanks for admitting that you're a low life hater :) Jus... morecovering and fixing are two different things
                                  maybe you should download a dictionary app and read the definition for both words

                                  plus you can't fix a problem if it's internal with something external

                                  because the source is inside not outside

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • Mty
                                    • 27 Jul 2010

                                    Anonymous, 27 Jul 2010Thanks for admitting that you're a low life hater :) Jus... moreit is not fixed its just covered.

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • Mty
                                      • 27 Jul 2010

                                      Anonymous, 27 Jul 2010First of all, Toyota acted upon themselves to order an earl... moreyou are just making excuses for apple who should have done a recall and thats why apple is taking all this flack now and they deserve it since jobs in the past has openly made fun of other phones for no reason except his extreme arrogance.The other phones issue is no way near the degree of iphone4 exposed antenna.

                                      what if the white iphone4 doesnt have this issue when it is released but the black ones will.

                                      remember less then 2% of those parts for 34,134 vehicles and toyota did a recall of 8000 toyotas.Thats how much toyota cares for their customers.Apple offers free bumpers, stupid.Did you ever think this will be a big turn off for people thinking of making a first purchase of an iphone.Of course it will.Its not good business practise for apple.

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • FJR
                                        • 27 Jul 2010

                                        namez bond, 27 Jul 2010yes we hate iphone omg, it is like the best phone out there... moreThanks for admitting that you're a low life hater :)

                                        Just because the iphone works for us, it does not mean we're merely followers or have been brainwashed.  What a ludicrous thing to say.  Choose a device that works for you and let others choose for themselves.  Why are you so upset with our choices?  I have a beautiful incipio case for my ip4, and have no antennagate problems at all.  So why are you pressing an issue that is very much fixable?