German Stiftung Warentest: iPhone 4 is the real signal loser

26 July, 2010
The popular German foundation Stiftung Warentest, which is the regional authority on consumer product testing accommodated the recently unveiled Apple iPhone 4 in its lab and tested its notorious...

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  • Anonymous
  • FJR
  • 27 Jul 2010

namez bond, 27 Jul 2010a mature company with mature individuals leading the compan... moreToyota's issues concerns the safety and lives of drivers.  That's diferrent from antennagate.  And Toyota did bring up other cars like Nissan and Ford having used the same parts as their Tacomas did.  Bringing up other examples does not necessarily mean your pointing fingers, rather demanding fairness and equality.

Problem with you is.  You're just hating.  Whether Apple does a recall or not.  Haters like you would always have something bad to say about Apple anyway, so why even bother with an unnecessary recall.

If you don't want an iphone for yourself, that's fine.  But why get mad if others still want it?  And stop lying.  The ip4 can make and receive calls.  Our choices shouldn't affect anyone, unless of course you're a low life hater :)

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    • namez bond
    • q{K
    • 27 Jul 2010

    Anonymous, 27 Jul 2010First of all, Toyota acted upon themselves to order an earl... moreyes we hate iphone omg, it is like the best phone out there so we're bound to hate on it! right? we hate the 1st iphone cause it took such good videos & bluetooth transfer was flawless...the 2nd 1 had 3G OMG!..& it gets even better! the 3rd 1 is almost twice as fast!!! OMG! lets call it 3Gs, s for speed & people would line up at 4 in the morning to buy it! & OMG guess what they did! wooo! & now, a phone that pretty much requires a manual saying how to hold a damn phone! LMAO! XD yes, you're right! we're oh so jealous of the iphones, they always bring in something so sophisticated that current market can't even seem to keep up! right?
    it's really funny to see how you guys are blindfolded & brainwashed by apple like as if no matter what it does it's still perfect...like i said i own ipod touch, love it & love my mac pro even more...but i don't prefer iphones cause of its stupid issues & feature limitations...but hey if that's what makes you guys happy & does the trick for then go for it! line up again for the 5th 1 at 4 in the morning again, we don't mind lol may be this time they'll ask to not hold the phone at all, & they'll provide a free bluetooth headset for handsfree use! :)cheers!

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      • Adam
      • uCj
      • 27 Jul 2010

      Nahh look at this magic iphone over its rival http://mynokiablog.com/2010/07/26/can-your-nokia-n97-mini-do-this-single-touch-detuning/

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        • Anonymous
        • FJR
        • 27 Jul 2010

        Anonymous, 27 Jul 2010Toyota did a recall for 8,000 tacomas because less then 2% ... moreFirst of all, Toyota acted upon themselves to order an early recall of those Tacomas when they didn't have to.  A safety recall is usually done when it is ordered by the court after thorough investigation, or, when the company foresees it happening.  There are grounds and criteria for it.  Not all imperfections are grounds for a recall.

        And so they did mention other two car makers having the same concerns.  So it's not just Apple who mentions others with similar issues.  

        Apple did the right thing in offering free cases and a full refund for those not happy with their ip4.  Why issue a recall when ip4 users are doing fine with their iphones?  Just because ip4 haters think so?  Why should Apple care about what haters have to say? Lol.

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          • namez bond
          • q{K
          • 27 Jul 2010

          a mature company with mature individuals leading the company: toyota
          they had issues with their cars, they pulled those freaking cars back from their dealers! fixed the damn cars! & no they didn't point their hands at honda/chevrolet/nissan/volvo/bmw/mercedez...NONE! they accepted their mistakes & corrected it even though their reputation won't be the same as before...but hey, at least they fixed it without crying like a baby!

          a new to market-phone company with a nut case leading the company: apple
          they had issues with their iphone4, they didn't pull their phones back, fix? oh no no, "our consumers are so dumb that a free case will shut them up, trust me ;)" (& it worked!)...& just to divert global consumers attention from apple lets point fingers at other companies! yes, that should make the situation better! oops! didn't work the way we expected, darn it!

          i own an ipod touch cause its probably the best mp3/video player out there...own a mac pro coz i like the unibody built quality & features as a laptop BUT i'm neither blind nor dumb enough to not know that there always have been a better phone in market every single time an iphone comes out...1st 1 no video no bluetooth transfer, basic stuff that i need but hey people still bought it...n now, can't even make a damn call by holding the phone the way i held a phone from childhood? what are we going backwards in technology apple? or you think people will buy anything you produce? well, the latter is true to some extent cause i still see people lining up at 4am in the morning! either they're homeless or they're the guinea pigs that were successfully brainwashed by apple!

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            • Anonymous
            • Mty
            • 27 Jul 2010

            Anonymous, 27 Jul 2010Your logic is way off buddy.   Toyota didn't bring ... moreToyota did a recall for 8,000 tacomas because less then 2% of driveshaft yokes could break and this part is used on 34,134 vehicles with ford and nissan included.
            http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2010-02-23-tacoma23_ST_N.htm

            Apple should have done the right thing and recalled those iphone4 and fixed it the right way.I bet when the white iphone4 is released it will not have this issue.

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              • v6h
              • 27 Jul 2010

              Hahaha apple u fail, to cocky these days I think, u think u are tops cause u make more money of a single block like 1500 bucks piece of brick that u suck the life and money out of so many redneck fans, wait and see when meego and android run all over ur closed os crap

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                • YTK
                • 27 Jul 2010

                apple is good only at making software.steve jobs is still kids when it comes to hardware,and nokia is the grandfather of hardware.

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                  • andy burgin
                  • 3pH
                  • 27 Jul 2010

                  Apple have just Ripped people off with the New iPhone,an just shows Apple never tested the Antenna an Signal Problems,An Apple think because of the Good Name they have Got they can Release an item an It Will Succede,But Just the Current Generation never read reviews before buying a item an like throwing there Money Away an Apple are just Laughing at them,an how much will the cases cost Apple-i bet some company with give to them Apple for Free,to get a deal with them

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                    • Anonymous
                    • FJR
                    • 27 Jul 2010

                    True Indeed, 26 Jul 2010WELL SAID MY FRIEND... mature company with mature individu... moreYour logic is way off buddy.  

                    Toyota didn't bring up other car makers because other car makers didn't have the same issues as they did.  But what if other carmakers have the same issues as Toyota cars did?  Do you think Toyota would just be quiet about it?  I don't think so.  Toyota solely faced those issues because they're the only one who didn't comply with standard guidelines and requirements.  The ip4 PASSED FTC guidelines.  There's a big difference there buddy.

                    Sent from my iphone4

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                      • Anonymous
                      • FJR
                      • 26 Jul 2010

                      xman, 26 Jul 2010some of us like quantitative results as opposed qualitative... moreIf you read my post carefully, I did say that the ip4 probably has the more sensitive attenuation compared to the others.  But they all do have it.

                      Next question is.  Is it a dead end, or are there practical workarounds?

                      This antennagate obviously doesn't cripple the iphone.  I see a lot of people using it without a case.  As for me, I have a case for it so that I do not have to worry about the way I hold it.  

                      There is no fix for this.  It's either you can deal with it or you can't.

                      It still sells a lot.  So that would mean, users don't really see this antennagate as a big issue like how the media and the non-iphone users make it out to be.

                      Sent from my iphone4

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                        • Anonymous
                        • Mty
                        • 26 Jul 2010

                        Even the ipod touch is better.You can hold it whatever way you choose.This new ipod4 touch is a fail.

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                          • Anonymous
                          • FJR
                          • 26 Jul 2010

                          [deleted post]No one is telling you to do anything.  All phones have imperfections.  It's either you can deal with it or not.  And yes, you can go wherever you want.  You can buy whichever phone you want.  So just shut up already :)

                          Sent from my iphone4

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                            • Anonymous
                            • FJR
                            • 26 Jul 2010

                            Anonymous, 26 Jul 2010Are apple going to release a phone that actually works this year?They already have. And it works just fine :)

                            Sent from my iphone4

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                              • Anonymous
                              • 8TJ
                              • 26 Jul 2010

                              And Apple almost got me this time. No money for you Apple failure!

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                                • Anonymous
                                • JCk
                                • 26 Jul 2010

                                Are apple going to release a phone that actually works this year?

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                                  • 0c%
                                  • 26 Jul 2010

                                  This problem will go down and will be remembered as the most legendary and iconic failure in the history of mankind. Biggest failure known to man.

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                                    • Sandy
                                    • 3xJ
                                    • 26 Jul 2010

                                    Hi Am not sure of iphone 4 but i got iphone 3gs on which i had updated the software to IOS4 and since then either my phone turns off on its own or while am on phone the phone goes off on its own and I had to connect it to charger to get it on coz it doesnt gets on with just power button. Or I had to reset it while its off by pressing power and home button together.. Its just irritating that when u take ur phone of from ur pocket to make a call or to listen music u find its off on its own and this problemn started since i had updated the latest software to version 4. I think the problem is not only in iphone 4 but in version 4 software also.

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                                      • DIx
                                      • 26 Jul 2010

                                      Anonymous, 26 Jul 2010But the title is deceiving. It seemed like they have somet... moresome of us like quantitative results as opposed qualitative results. qualitative results allows Apple to call phones reception the same. 20 dB of signal loss in the ip4 is a lot more than 6dB of other phones.

                                      ==> ip4 phones reception not the same as other smart phones

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                                        • Federated
                                        • 0c%
                                        • 26 Jul 2010

                                        This is a MAJOR hardware flaw!