ARM announces Cortex-A75, Cortex-A55 and Mali-G72
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- 30 May 2017
Anonymous, 29 May 2017Indeed he is wrong. The point of replaceable batteries is t... moreYou can use powerbank
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- 6jr
- 29 May 2017
Did you say ARM for enterprise?
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- Anonymous
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- 29 May 2017
AnonD-39937, 29 May 2017Custom cores ? What are you talking about? Kryo 260/280 and... moreDo you have a reliable source that M2 is A73 based? As far I am aware, it is not a Built on Cortex licensed product, hence it is not based on ARM cores. If they're using ARM designs without doing the BoC license, it is just a lawsuit waiting to happen. You know how much Samsung loves to be embargoed.
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- 29 May 2017
AnonD-39937, 29 May 2017Haha, actually, I don't like Chinese phone companies. I say... moreIn my opinion A72 is a little better than A73. But less efficient...
I know geekbench says the opposite, but that's not the only benchmark that says opposite than reality.
Decoding performances seems to be better on A72 for exemple...
A72 pipeline is 3 instructions wide (3 instructions per clock frequencie), A73 is only 2. It leads to less heating and less consumption...
Silicone area is smaller too, si A73 is cheaper than A72
Arm does a very good job, A73 is really close to A72 despite smaller pipeline
With A75, Arm takes the A73 improvements and restore 3 instructions per clock...A75 is OK due to 10nm
I think Kryo 280 is a kind of A73...
But Kryo 260 isn't a A72...
I think it's a kind of A73 too, 2 instructions wide too... But maybe with shorter pipeline.
Huawei acheive a good Kirin 950...it is often faster than s820 and sustains performances far better.
The great thing with this new A75/A55 cores isn't the cores themselves, it's their management : DynamIQ...
API like Vulkan will need soc that were able to sustain GPU and CPU charge at the same time...
We will see the limits of crappy bench like Antutu which tests CPU and GPU separately...thermal enveloppe will be very important so that 2+6 would behave better than 4+4
Apple has a great advantage with their Giant cores, the best Arm cores since A7...but they should developpe core management. Now they were able use 2 or 2, not even 2+2
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- 29 May 2017
AnonD-656673, 29 May 2017What do you even do with phones! Even with charge n play al... moreIndeed he is wrong. The point of replaceable batteries is to get instant 100% charge (huge for frequent fliers like me and generally for people that commute and don't want to mess with mobile chargers)
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- 29 May 2017
AnonD-114814, 29 May 2017in your dreams,huawey fanboysHaha, actually, I don't like Chinese phone companies. I say facts, just look at last year's Huawei Mate 9, doesn't it have A73 cores and it was released in November?
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- 29 May 2017
leledumbo, 29 May 2017With this improvements, custom cores will need significant ... moreCustom cores ? What are you talking about? Kryo 260/280 and Mangoose M2 are nothing more than A73 cores(Kryo 260 is A72) with small changes just to name it different (same performance per clock, similar power consumption). The whole market is already based on stock ARM cores. (not talking of Apple , which is a market itself)
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- 29 May 2017
Anonymous, 29 May 2017Because android phones are in general fatter and bigger so ... moreThat's really unfair...615 is pure crap...;-) I think you know that, and choose it with caution! ;-)
Qualcomm was unable to use properly nor 64bits, nor octacore...410, 615, 810, 808 were bad too!
Mt6752 was nearly 40% faster than 615 in real use...615 can't even be as fast as quad core 6732!
But that's Qualcomm, they sell even when they're bad.
They improve a lot, 625 behaves quite good now, nearly as well as 820...(I talk about real use, not benchmarks)
Helio P20 too
https://youtu.be/VvyCQmNInzk
Even P10 with old 28nm process behaves well
https://youtu.be/HNXHm6f4Tmc
OK iPhone 7 is faster, but not that much, remember too, that's only midrange that costs 200 bucks...from unknow Companies.
Real difference is only on loading games
Octacore is a good way to do cheap but efficient soc.
Don't forget too, that Apple use a kind of cluster migration on A10...that's the worst big.LITTLE implementation
That's why, A10 is sometime slower than A9
With newest DynamIQ cores management, I think de will get very good 2big+6LITTLE
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- 29 May 2017
AnonD-185779, 29 May 2017So is this still 14 nm?YOu can use which ever size you want, there are A53 cores at 28nm as well as 14nm
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- 29 May 2017
Anonymous, 29 May 2017And Android has more battery life with 8 Core lelBecause android phones are in general fatter and bigger so they have more space for a bigger battery, and those 8 cores are tiny so they save energy but take a much longer time to load so the only thing they do in conclusion is to waste your time while you get the same work done in a longer time at same battery endurance
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And now take your low end SD615 8core phone and go crying in the corner
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- 29 May 2017
XtremE16, 29 May 2017In Real life sony phones r faster than others... Check out ... moreU r wrong
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- 29 May 2017
AnonD-39937, 29 May 2017In November, Huawei Mate 10 will be released with Kirin 965... morein your dreams,huawey fanboys
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- 29 May 2017
AnonD-584899, 29 May 2017that bar so confuse me, 1.24x same as 24% but seem like 240% Exactly. ARM using deceptive graphics (not having the bars start at point zero) must be called out for it.
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- 29 May 2017
Need this in my pocket asap
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- 29 May 2017
In Real life sony phones r faster than others... Check out if u don't believe me : compared with two high world most popular phones.... Below link...
[https://youtu.be/k7vLoFJcfsI
https://youtu.be/I_W-Hc23rUA
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- 29 May 2017
With this improvements, custom cores will need significant improvement to compete with ARM standards. Or else, next gen SoC is a matter of configuring big and LITTLE cores within and between clusters (over 3000 possible configurations if I'm not mistaken?).
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- ELT
- 29 May 2017
No Intel, no NVIDIA, no AMD then: we have poor king : ARM
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- 29 May 2017
Qwerty2017, 29 May 2017Nope, it's almost ZERO percent ANY phone manufacturers will... moreI think A55 won't be in tandem with A73.
Because A73 isn't compatible with new DynamIQ...but only old big.LITTLE. the main avantage between A55 and A53 is DynamIQ...it will be bad to kill it with incompatible A73!
So that, in my opinion instead of building 4big A73+ 4LITTLE A55, 2big A75+6 LITTLE A55 with DynamIQ will be faster and cheaper
Classic big.LITTLE will be dead...you will find more and more "assymetric" clusters.
Mediatek already start to make their own for a year with Corepilot...
Corepilot was a more flexible core arrangement with a coherent cache.
Corepilot will die too, due to DynamIQ
Big.LITTLE
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- 29 May 2017
Mzma PIB, 29 May 2017Nope 970 has been confirm using New Generation A73.. The di... moreIs the new Heimdal GPU in the Kirin 970 going to be more powerful than the Mali G72??
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- 29 May 2017
AnonD-510098, 29 May 2017First phone with this new tech will be the Kirin 970 which ... moreNope 970 has been confirm using New Generation A73.. The diff between 970 Vs 960
1) New Gen A73
2) New Gen Heimdal GPU
3) 10nm FinFET
Others is same as 960...