ARM announces Cortex-A75, Cortex-A55 and Mali-G72
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- 29 May 2017
AnonD-510098, 29 May 2017First phone with this new tech will be the Kirin 970 which ... moreNope 970 has been confirm using New Generation A73.. The diff between 970 Vs 960
1) New Gen A73
2) New Gen Heimdal GPU
3) 10nm FinFET
Others is same as 960...
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Qwerty2017, 29 May 2017Nope, it's almost ZERO percent ANY phone manufacturers will... moreThe whole point of DynamIQ is to allow more flexible designs hence ARM is pushing for chip designers to include one (or two) A75 core even on budget chips. The die area is roughly the same as going all A55 so production costs should be similar but performance will be improved significantly. It might increase the royalty costs a bit but they will definitely use this to separate entry level from budget. DynamIQ is not compatible with older cores and this is the direction ARM designs are going. I can't see a Qualcomm 630 successor not doing a 7 x A55 + 1 x A75. The payoff will make it happen.
In fact I will predict that DynamIQ will make re-hashing their old designs and trickling them down obsolete. The only thing preventing that might be R&D costs but they have to bite the bullet sooner or later. If not next year, then the year after.
Of course if chip designers continue to stick with big.LITTLE then they can continue to pump out old designs to their heart's content but it seems a futile gesture considering how much flexibility they gain from shifting their design paradigm and ultimately it'll improve their performance, their efficiency and their costs.
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- 29 May 2017
Loki, 29 May 2017Mediatek should use 10 nm tmsc and make eight core like his... moreArm explains what DynamIQ is...the successor of Big.LITTLE
They says that 1A75+7A55 is a good solution on term of performances, sustain power and silicone area (=Price)
They put an additional cache to linked clusters...
Oh wait, Mediatek put 2A73+4A53+4A35 on X30 in 10nm with Corepilot 4.0 and Coherent Cache technologie
(Already use corepilot 3.0 with 2A72+4A53+4A53 on X20 serie...quite good CPU performances if you test it for real!)
Mediatek already use something that is close to DynamIQ and you want that they came back to an old 4+4 big.LITTLE?
Problem of X serie is more probably Qualcomm's CDMA/lte patents fee
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- 29 May 2017
useless,i preffer to use intel cpu in windows pc,android is good only for internet,same as iphone and other shitty os,xp and 7 are best for everything,cellphones are convinient for calls and internet only no need to take them further,i dont like to charge my battery every day either and every singe generation of SOC,cpu and so on get more energy efficien and still phone battery lasts barely a day
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First phone with this new tech will be the Kirin 970 which will be included in the Huawei Mate 10
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- 29 May 2017
So is this still 14 nm?
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- 29 May 2017
Welldone for your new research but please let it come faster. I like phones with your CPU and GPU.
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- 29 May 2017
Anonymous, 29 May 2017The best thing I read was "2x single threaded performance" ... moreNope, it's almost ZERO percent ANY phone manufacturers will use a SoC with Cortex A75 for their low-end products which only generates small profit margins.
FYI, Cortex A7x are ARM flagship core, similar to Intel Core i7, that's why it's IMPOSSIBLE company like HiSilicon, MediaTek, Samsung, or even Qualcomm will bother to try to make a "flagship-grade" affordable SoC (licencing fee of flagship Cortex cores, especially the latest one is damn expensive!)
This is why Qualcomm & MediaTek resorted to using Cortex A72 for their "flagship-grade" affordable SoC (aka mid-range SoC). Cortex A72 is previous generation Cortex flagship, therefore licencing fees for it is somewhat cheaper than A73.
The new Snapdragon 660 Kyro 260 custom cores is said to be using Cortex A72 as its base for the 'big' cores and custom A53 for the 'LITTLE' CORES, that's why the performance improvement on SD660 over SD653 is only 20 percent, thanks to its 14nm fabrication which allows custom Cortex A72 to be hi-clocked safely without thermal issue like SD808/810/615 had.
My prediction are:
-) Cortex A73 will replace A72 for the next mid-range SoC, in tandem with Cortex A55 (if ARM could really released it to public this year). A73 is more stable than A72 in terms of thermal issue, so it'll be the perfect cores for mid-range SoC.
-) Cortex A53 will still largely used to replace the aging Cortex A7 which STILL be used by QC, Spreadtrum, and other fabless companies who produce cheap low-end SoC (Snapdragon 2xx still use Cortex A7!). A53 performance is still adequate enough for powering low-end SoC which favor energy efficiency more than performance
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Anonymous, 29 May 2017And iPhone 6s will still be faster lelAnd Android has more battery life with 8 Core lel
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TechLover1, 29 May 2017Absolutely looking forward. But most probably we'll have to... moreI think Huawei mate 10 will have A75
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can it run crysis?
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AnonD-35569, 29 May 2017I only want good performing phones with replaceable batteri... moreWhat do you even do with phones! Even with charge n play all my phones have original batteries.
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AnonD-584899, 29 May 2017that bar so confuse me, 1.24x same as 24% but seem like 240% 1.24x = 124/100 = 124%
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Anonymous, 29 May 2017And iPhone 6s will still be faster lelActually no, A75 should be faster than the CPU from iPhone 6s, A75 should score about 2500 in Geekbench single-core(vs 6s's 2300) if the numbers shown are true. But, it will still be slower in single-score than iPhone 7.
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- 29 May 2017
What a great news.. Good job ARM..
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AnonD-39937, 29 May 2017In November, Huawei Mate 10 will be released with Kirin 965... moreAnd iPhone 6s will still be faster lel
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that bar so confuse me, 1.24x same as 24% but seem like 240%
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- 29 May 2017
In November, Huawei Mate 10 will be released with Kirin 965 SOC, which will have 4xA75 big cores and 4xA55 LITTLE cores, crushing the Kryo 280s(A73 a bit modified) from Snapdragons 835 by about 33%.(Geekbench)
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- 29 May 2017
maybe SD 670 or SD 680 will use A75 architecture.
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- 29 May 2017
Duke of Elsewhere , 29 May 2017Improved or new battery technology anyone ? There's a few in the pipeline. It's all R&D at this point. Zinc could be the next thing. No chemical reaction so much safer. And they developed a tech to easily recharge.