Nokia E6 and X7 go on pre-order in Germany, seem pricey
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- 16 May 2011
AnonD-291, 16 May 2011"Why need to carry a cable? most of the time people wh... more"You're right. most people who have HDTV do have hdmi cable (That includes myself). But thats a regular HDMI cable, not a microHDMI cable."
I dont think it would be much of the burden to carry a short adapter cable around when you need it.
"So your friend's house has an area of just 2 sq metre ? (which is the range of FM transmitters in Nokia devices). "
i thought they have a range of 9 meters?
"So you stay in more than 2 countries at a time ???
Even if you do hop countries every next day, there are ways to increase cache limit."
im talking from a travelers perspective. Im not aware of the ways to increase the cache limit. enlighten me pls
"Check out the definition of "free"."
Ur point?
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- AnonD-291
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- 16 May 2011
AnonD-695, 16 May 2011hey i never said that im gonna carry all of that. I just on... more"Why need to carry a cable? most of the time people who have HD tv will have a hdmi cable with them. all you need is a adapter"
You're right. most people who have HDTV do have hdmi cable (That includes myself). But thats a regular HDMI cable, not a microHDMI cable.
"My point is that my friend could still hold and use his phone everywhere in the house and transmit music at the same time."
So your friend's house has an area of just 2 sq metre ? (which is the range of FM transmitters in Nokia devices).
Thats the size of my bathroom!
"Put in 2 maps of major countries into there and it will be full in no time"
So you stay in more than 2 countries at a time ???
Even if you do hop countries every next day, there are ways to increase cache limit.
"And yet i cant save maps and have to download them every time i use it back then so how does that translate to 'free'?"
Check out the definition of "free".
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- savage466
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- 16 May 2011
@adkane
Don't waste your time dude on arguing with these mindless people. They are obviously bashing and just saying non-sense even if they made their comments very long, it will still be like a dumb/empty composition.
When you'd learned to appreciate the values and the features of a device, regardless of the number of specs it has, you will be more satisfied with it specially when it is very useful.
These companies are meant to compete with each other on the benefit of their consumers. We consumers are not meant to compete, argue with each other or defend these companies' products. We are here just to enjoy.
Comments here are becomming pointless day by day.
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- Anonymous
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- 16 May 2011
AnonD-695, 16 May 2011i cant read the article with that link you gave me. it keep... moreI was able to go to the site fine.
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/The_Symbian_Foundation_unwrapped.php
Actually like mentioned Symbian wasn't closed until April 5th, 2011. So it was open source until then.
While it's true that not all external HDD requires an external power source. The majority of them do. Even the ones by Western Digital which requires only a single USB cable to power drive has a high failure rates and sucks.
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- AnonD-695
- uCn
- 16 May 2011
Anonymous, 16 May 2011Rant without proof? Oh so have Nokia actually came out and ... morei cant read the article with that link you gave me. it keeps on asking me to register. pls provide a new link.
"Mobile manufactures were no longer required to pay royalties to symbian foundations. So since it was free why did they decide to not continue using this fully established free OS?"
That was like when? 2010? By then symbian was no longer open sourced mate.
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- AnonD-695
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- 16 May 2011
Anonymous, 16 May 2011"it might be for you but some people find it useful. B... morehey i never said that im gonna carry all of that. I just only need to bring it when i NEED it.
"Why not just carry a laptop?"
Then it would be defeating the purpose of carrying a smartphone would it?
"LOL you see the irony in your statement?"
same to you mate
"how do you plan on power said speakers?"
some are battery powered mate.
"Most 2.0" USB HDD requires 2 USB connections, one for data connection one for power. Can your N8/C7 power said external HDD? how long would that last?"
according to the manual only HDD that require 200maH of power must be plug in to a power source, others are ok
"Android 2.0 Devices got free navigation October 29th, 2009."
And yet i cant save maps and have to download them every time i use it back then so how does that translate to 'free'?
"Way to fail English comprehension, chap. Did I say turn by turn navigation was available offline? No. I said Google Maps was available offline, and guess what you don't need data for that."
As if your english is perfect! I would like to see you talking in my mother tongue, Chinese! And the cache data is only about what? 2GB? Put in 2 maps of major countries into there and it will be full in no time.
"Why would you need to transfer files to other phones with BT 3.0 if you already have USB OTG?"
And you just said USB OTG was useless
"Ever heard of hot swap microSD?"
So do you change ur sd card evertime?
"So your friend uses a crappy radio to DJ his party? I feel bad for your friend, he can't even through a decent party if he can't even afford a music dock? I don't know about your friend but my music dock plays music through out the house. ;) I can also control it from anywhere in the house with a remote as well."
Define 'crappy'. Audio quality was good at that time and it could not have got any better. My point is that my friend could still hold and use his phone everywhere in the house and transmit music at the same time.
"You're right, HDMI is a useless feature. Unless i'm going to someone's house and they have a micro HDMI cable it's pretty much inconvenient for me to carry around a cable just to show off videos. If its at my home i can simply stream my videos from my phone to my media server via smb. ;)"
Why need to carry a cable? most of the time people who have HD tv will have a hdmi cable with them. all you need is a adapter
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- Anonymous
- keq
- 16 May 2011
AnonD-695, 16 May 2011"Why has Sony Ericcson stopped using Symbian as well?&... moreRant without proof? Oh so have Nokia actually came out and published how many actual devices they sold? Can you show me?
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/ab1e3c08-424e-11dd-a5e8-0000779fd2ac.html
Mobile manufactures were no longer required to pay royalties to symbian foundations. So since it was free why did they decide to not continue using this fully established free OS?
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- Anonymous
- keq
- 16 May 2011
AnonD-695, 16 May 2011"most useless features a smart phone can possibly have... more"it might be for you but some people find it useful. BTW is not only limited to pendrives or mp3 players. memory card readers, speakers, keyboards, feature phones and even a mouse can be plug in to symbian^3 devices."
so basically you're going to carry speakers, mouse, keyboard, and basically a cradle to hold your N8/C7 up so you can type on it? Why not just carry a laptop? LOL you see the irony in your statement? You're supposedly trying to make your life simpler by not having to carry around a laptop with USB OTG yet to get the same functionality you're carrying more things than a simple laptop. So you're going to carry speakers? how do you plan on power said speakers? Those must be some very weak speakers if they can be powered through USB alone. Same with external HDD? Most 2.0" USB HDD requires 2 USB connections, one for data connection one for power. Can your N8/C7 power said external HDD? how long would that last?
Nokia Maps have existed before android but were they free before Android? No. Android Maps were free before OVI maps became free. Don't even mention Nokia Navigation Phones, you paid a premium for navigation on those which is the same as a subscription. Android 2.0 Devices got free navigation October 29th, 2009. Where as OVI maps became free to selected smart phones Jan 31 2010. See the difference in time here buddy?
Way to fail English comprehension, chap. Did I say turn by turn navigation was available offline? No. I said Google Maps was available offline, and guess what you don't need data for that.
Why would you need to transfer files to other phones with BT 3.0 if you already have USB OTG? Ever heard of hot swap microSD?
So your friend uses a crappy radio to DJ his party? I feel bad for your friend, he can't even through a decent party if he can't even afford a music dock? I don't know about your friend but my music dock plays music through out the house. ;) I can also control it from anywhere in the house with a remote as well.
You're right, HDMI is a useless feature. Unless i'm going to someone's house and they have a micro HDMI cable it's pretty much inconvenient for me to carry around a cable just to show off videos. If its at my home i can simply stream my videos from my phone to my media server via smb. ;)
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- 16 May 2011
i just wonder why when nokia devices have a certain feature people will say is useless but when an iphone for android device have that very same feature it suddenly becomes a life saving-cancer curring-'super' useful feature?
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- 16 May 2011
Anonymous, 16 May 2011Sigh where to start.
I've owned Nokia N91, N80, N95, N90... more"Why has Sony Ericcson stopped using Symbian as well?"
Ah...the famous question that is on everyones' minds. You wanna know why? Back then they just cant compete with nokia when it came to symbian. With nokia you had an app store and maps which SE and Samsung did not. And also most apps and games are written with nokia's api so some of the apps wont work with se or samsung devices.
"So again why have Samsung and SE stopped using Symbian if it was free?"
Wrong, they still have to pay royalties to Symbian foundation back then.
"How many N8's have Nokia sold since launch day? How many C7's? Oh thats right, Nokia is too embarassed to release any sales figures."
I just lol every time i see someone rant without proof whatsoever.
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- 16 May 2011
Anonymous, 16 May 2011Droids dont' need USB on the go because its one of the most... more"most useless features a smart phone can possibly have."
it might be for you but some people find it useful. BTW is not only limited to pendrives or mp3 players. memory card readers, speakers, keyboards, feature phones and even a mouse can be plug in to symbian^3 devices.
"Let me ask you this, can your S^3 devices dock up to a laptop dock like the atrix can? Thought so, can't right?"
eh? all i need is a bt mouse, usb keyboard and a HDMI port and bingo, my n8 is already hooked up to my desktop monitor. No need for those USD80$ docks.
"You know the Android devices has had free turn by turn navigation way before Symbian did did you not? In fact Nokia gave free navigation due to the pressure from Android's free navigation."
As far as i know nokia maps (not ovi) existed even before android was created.
"Android also has offline google maps which requires no data too genius."
Way to fall for Google's words chap. You still need to connect to the internet when you want to use the navigation feature of google maps.
"BT 3.0 is basically a useless function"
How? I could transfer stuff to other phone even faster than i did with 2.0, although bt 3.0 is currently not set at full speed.
"Most of our car's have an aux jack and we don't need to connect through BT or use an FM transmitter to play our songs on the radio. So maybe blame your country for not being technologically advance when it comes to car audio? My sister's 2007 Lexus ES 350 has had an aux jack since day one. In fact all cars in my family has an ipod adapter/aux jack."
is not just for in car stereo only mate. My friend once held a party at his home and he was able to show off his c7 to his friends AROUND THE HOUSE while transmitting music at the same time to the hi-fi set.
"TV out support? Obviously you don't even read the specs sheets here do you? Samsung Galaxy S supports TV out via micro USB to HDMI cable. My G2x has a micro HDMI port as well."
What? Your not gonna say that is useless too just because some android devices have it?
"This is nothing but a cost saving process for Nokia, instead of making a device multiple times with different radio bands they use penta band and market it as a feature."
That's a pretty smart move if you ask me. No need to wait for the different version of the phone to be released, just make one for all
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- Anonymous
- keq
- 16 May 2011
AnonD-3713, 15 May 2011Your phones were never resource hungry? I guess you only ow... moreSigh where to start.
I've owned Nokia N91, N80, N95, N900, E71, E71x. So yes i've had experience with Symbian and Nokia in general. You talk about aluminum unibody but guess what? the Nokia N80 and N95 were made with plastic body. E71 even though was made with aluminum had reception problems due to placement of the antenna. However the N95 and E71/x were one of my favorite Nokia devices. The N900 was horrible. Maemo sucked even though they marketed it as a device that should have been able to compete with Iphone and android. I've also owned the N800 media tablets as well so yes; i've had quite a bit of experience when it comes to Nokia.
Funny how you also fail to comprehend english. You used the fact that Google's Android OS is free hence why it has gained so much market share in a short amount of time. I replied with the fact that until recently, Symbian was free open source OS for mobile devices. Yet why has it been declining in market share? Why has Sony Ericcson stopped using Symbian as well? I've also owned the P1i from SE and it was a solid device. So again why have Samsung and SE stopped using Symbian if it was free? Why has Symbian market share declined if it was free until april 5th 2011 when Nokia officially made Symbian not open source?
Funny how you claim the G2x old technology lcd, it uses IPS technology which is same as Iphone 4, iphone 4 display is rated one of the best. I won't get into detail about USB OTG as that is useless, and as an American with a non crappy car I don't have a need for USB 3.0 and FM transmitter, but of course if you're poor and can't afford a car radio that has AUX in I suppose those features would be nice.
ROFl so before your comment about games was that you couldn't get full gaming experience as you would on a desktop yet I corrected you saying flash gaming on a mobile device is possible with full content flash, now you shrug it off. You fanbois are so hilarious. I envy your ignorance, so what's Nokia's current smartphone marketshare again? How many N8's have Nokia sold since launch day? How many C7's? Oh thats right, Nokia is too embarassed to release any sales figures.
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- 16 May 2011
AnonD-2663, 16 May 2011"either an Optimus 2x or an Atrix has way more capabil... moreDroids dont' need USB on the go because its one of the most useless features a smart phone can possibly have. USB OTG was originally intended for mobile devices to link to mp3 players so that Mobile phones can download music and place them directly into said Mp3 players or applications such as that. Now that flash memory has become relatively cheap and can be made in great yields USB OTG is useless. Let me ask you this, can your S^3 devices dock up to a laptop dock like the atrix can? Thought so, can't right?
You know the Android devices has had free turn by turn navigation way before Symbian did did you not? In fact Nokia gave free navigation due to the pressure from Android's free navigation. Android also has offline google maps which requires no data too genius.
Sidekick 4G, Samsung Galaxy S Plus, Samsung Galaxy S 4G all have bt 3.0 but you know in the US BT 3.0 is basically a useless function. Most of our car's have an aux jack and we don't need to connect through BT or use an FM transmitter to play our songs on the radio. So maybe blame your country for not being technologically advance when it comes to car audio? My sister's 2007 Lexus ES 350 has had an aux jack since day one. In fact all cars in my family has an ipod adapter/aux jack.
TV out support? Obviously you don't even read the specs sheets here do you? Samsung Galaxy S supports TV out via micro USB to HDMI cable. My G2x has a micro HDMI port as well.
Penta Band? I've already addressed this "feature". This is nothing but a cost saving process for Nokia, instead of making a device multiple times with different radio bands they use penta band and market it as a feature. However most manufacturers gear their devices towards their intended markets. The Galaxy S made for US market is most likely only going to have US 3G frequencies, because why? The average users won't travel to Europe or Asia and require 3G service there. Also most US devices do have 2100MHz compatibility which guess what? Works all over EU and Asia. So again why the need for pentaband when you will most likely not go anywhere that needs it? Unless you're traveling frequently and require 3G connectivity on the go you'd most likely already have a world phone? Also Droid x2 will be a world phone so you happy? lol.
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- 16 May 2011
More Android vs Symbian in a Nokia thread. Good thing I'm a Meego supporter. I feel for those that have to bash another person's OS of choice just to make theirs seem superior. Meego is going to rock regardless of what anybody says. Can't wait, Bring on Meego. :)
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- 16 May 2011
The market share for Nokia's high end devices seems to be dropping like flies in developed countries. If the windows OS doesn't prove its worth, the finns by then will only be known as entry level handset manufacturers. If only Nokia wasn't too arrogant then, they would have now still be retaining their market share at the top. Lesson in life, live humbly with respect.
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- 16 May 2011
I can get the N8 for £267 why would I waist and pay double for this its to expensive at this point best wait a while and see it come down
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- 16 May 2011
AnonD-2663, 16 May 2011"either an Optimus 2x or an Atrix has way more capabil... moreI agree with this. I still choose nokia because it's the only company that offers turn by turn navigation without data usage. Symbian maybe behind number of applications, flash support and UI, but for me I still use nokia because it offers functions that other phone can't give me.
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- 16 May 2011
Anonymous, 15 May 2011a 7 years old Symbian user posting comment here... I d... moreYour two OS don't have proper multi tasking. iOS don't have proper homescreen with live feeds, Android is dependent on expensive hardware and on and on, i see Symbian has just too many advantages :) lol, Stupid is personal perception and need, grow up and stop enforcing your ideas on others
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- 16 May 2011
The X7 looks a bit chunky to me.
It will be interesting to play with one and see whats "the guts"
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- 16 May 2011
"either an Optimus 2x or an Atrix has way more capabilities and offer a lot more possibilities than either of these two phones (or even the best of NOKIA's phone)"
LMFAO... apart from full flash (which users with half a brain don't want anyhow), would you care to name some of these "capabilities"???
Do the droid clones you mentioned have USB on the go, pentaband radio, lifetime turn by turn navigation without downloading 1 kb of 3G data, 2-3 day battery life, Bluetooth 3.0, FM transmitter, TV out support??
People have different needs, so what is good for you isn't necessarily good for everybody. We love our NOKIA's because of their reliability, not because they have a pretty interface and support Flash advertisements.