Samsung brings two new camera sensors: 12MP 1.28µm with Dual Pixel and 24MP 0.9µm

11 October 2017
This is the first sensor with sub-1µm pixels. It will use pixel binning in the dark.

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  • Alex

AnonD-660035, 11 Oct 2017Nokia and Panasonic and even Samsung used better image sens... moreAgree completely. The S6 camera was vastly superior to the one I now have on my s8+. I don't understand it

Anonymous, 11 Oct 2017The 810 supports 56MPThe numbers I gave were the maximum it can do without any shutter lag. My 650 can do 40Mp. But it'll lag a lot.

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 12 Oct 2017 this is all true. With one exception. If their claims are ... moreThat's not true. S8's battery is not different from the rest. It degrades as fast as others, which means it will be useless after about 2-3 years.

  • Anonymous

Sony Fanboy Bitches, 11 Oct 20171" sensor on a smartphone would basically kill the purpose ... more wouldn't the pixels be larger at a 1/2 inch sensor if it was 16mp?
I remember trying to figure out what size the pixels would be for the 1/1.7 inch sensor Samsung was working on. Considering it was in 18-24mp configurations supposedly.
And I don't remember exactly where I found that helped me calculate it the exact numbers. But that 18mp the pixels were larger than the 1.4um. And at 24mp there were either about the 1.4ish or just slightly smaller.

So the half inch sensor at 16mp is larger with less pixels
And the cm1 with a 1 inch at 20mp was like 2.4um

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 12 Oct 2017Good comment. This is the capitalism and planned obsoles... more this is all true. With one exception. If their claims are correct or at least within reason supposedly from the batteries used in the s8 onward degrade much slower. Like only 5% in a year.
None the less. Still degrading, still smaller, still lower quality camera, still less battery life, and mileage can very. Especially for heavier users.

  • Anonymous

abigfanoftechs, 12 Oct 2017thin sensor -> thin phone -> thin battery -> charg... moreGood comment.

This is the capitalism and planned obsolescence. Artificially creating problems then solutions for them.

Oh, and one more thing:
charge more often -> faster charger -> shorter battery lifespan

  • Anonymous

Sony Fanboy Bitches, 11 Oct 20171" sensor on a smartphone would basically kill the purpose ... moreYou might be right. It's a worldwide conspiracy among manufacturers. Probably that's why the Panasonic deliberately disabled/blocked the phone call function in CM10.

thin sensor -> thin phone -> thin battery -> charge more often -> faster charger ... progress.

  • Anonymous

Joy-808, 11 Oct 2017i have also used my friends 808, it was ultimate. it wil... moreLOL I'm still using my 808 as my main phone as well.. After the photos by 808 I couldn't stand the pictures produced by other phones today.. They are garbage compared to the Pureview pictures.. 5 years and still unbeaten.. I guess we will have to wait for Nokia 9 or Nokia 10.. Though the Mate 10 with its dual 20MP camera looks promising

  • Anonymous

samsung has surpassed sony in camera sensor quality

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 11 Oct 2017they all have one thing in common. they were not sony's rec... moreFalse

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 11 Oct 2017No. A few years ago there was one Htc with pixels of 2 ... morethey all have one thing in common. they were not sony's recommended sensors.

Anonymous, 11 Oct 2017bigger pixels = better camera, right?one factor yes.
you do need to consider the resolution. higher megapix gives more detail. Sensor size allows you to manage the Pixel size to Resolution ratio.
there's also the Aparture (F number) the lower it is. the wider it's considered (our eyes for example has an aperture of F/1.85 so it's not the "best low light camera") there's ISO ratio. which means Light sensetivity, higher sensetivity means the chance of unbalanced image is higher.
White balance. affects of the whites.
and lastly. Shutter speed. how much time you're exposing the image for light.

bet, 11 Oct 2017better use other sensor no, a bigger sensor size, and it's wide aperture matter

  • LLL

Anonymous, 11 Oct 2017No. A few years ago there was one Htc with pixels of 2 ... moreIt was HTC One (M7) from 2013.
It has a 1/3" sensor with 4 MP resolution, resulting in 2.0 micron pixel size.
It didn't quite work because resolution is too low, however it trumped most of the competition when it comes to very low light condition. Just in such scenario though.

  • Anonymous

Anonymous, 11 Oct 2017bigger pixels = better camera, right?No.

A few years ago there was one Htc with pixels of 2 micron or a bit more. But it was 8MP.
Did not work out well.

Moto G5 has pixels of 1.4 too. Must be worse than iphone 6s.

  • Anonymous

CM3, 11 Oct 2017The 820/821 can do upto 24Mpix without any noticeable shutt... moreThe 810 supports 56MP

  • Fizzy

wonder if there going to use them on the s9 not sure on the small pixals tho. samsung should go with real glass to like the V30

  • Anonymous

bigger pixels = better camera, right?

  • AnonD-660035

Nokia and Panasonic and even Samsung used better image sensors in their phones years ago. Nowadays it´s all about slimness of the phones and profits for the shareholders. They use smaller and smaller and cheaper image sensors with every new model. And consumers are even willing to pay more than 1.000 Euro for such devices.

It´s ridiculous and there´s no consumers choice anymore. I would also like to see a phone with a bigger sensor, 1/1.7" would be no problem at all. Plus a lens made of glass, OIS and we would have much better cams in our phones. I wouldn´t even notice if it´s a little bit thicker. As Sony leads the market we maybe have to wait until they produce bigger sensors made for smartphones.