Counterclockwise: the rise (and impending doom) of the 3.5mm audio jack
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- FinnishInquisition
- m}S
- 19 Nov 2017
Anonymous, 19 Nov 2017I'll ask again: If that's the case, how come iPhones have t... moreTheir SoC's are massive compared to the competition, and their devices are much thinner.
Let's look at the year they removed the 3.5 mm port though. The phone maintained the exact same external dimensions but gained IP67 waterproofing and +245 mAh battery power.
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- Anonymous
- 0BG
- 19 Nov 2017
FinnishInquisition, 19 Nov 2017The potential audio quality is exactly the same over USB-C ... moreBut the presence of 3.5mm jack doesn't preven you from any of that, you can still use USB IF you chose to and if you have to (Some phones have great DACs. Yes, not all, but just like not all external DACs are good).
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- PSw
- 19 Nov 2017
AnonD-695347, 19 Nov 2017If you are going to use USB-C Port for audio (either with d... moreI agree. However, i see a lot of OEM'S will follow on the his trend because of an obvious reason. It's business, if the usb c worns out easily, good business for them because you will be forced to buy a new one, be it a new phone or replace the usb c port. Either way, a good business for business men but not for users like us.
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- FinnishInquisition
- m}S
- 19 Nov 2017
ithehappy, 19 Nov 2017It has been proven that audio through USB C isn't of better... moreThe potential audio quality is exactly the same over USB-C as with AUX.
The difference is that you don't have to suffer from bad built-in DAC/amps with USB-C, as you yourself pick the level of quality on your headphones. The DAC/amp combo can also be hand-picked and tuned by the audio manufacturer to ensure better output.
Furthermore you also get more advanced and powered features with USB-C, such as active noise cancellation and integrated equalizers, to name some.
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- Anonymous
- 0BG
- 19 Nov 2017
FinnishInquisition, 19 Nov 2017Removing the 3.5 mm port makes it possible to improve both ... moreI'll ask again: If that's the case, how come iPhones have the smalles batteries and one of the worst screen to body ratios?
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- AnonD-695347
- a3I
- 19 Nov 2017
If you are going to use USB-C Port for audio (either with dongels or USB-C headphones) :
1- The USB-C port will wear out MUCH faster, over time
2- chances that port getting physical harm will be increased
3- you cannot listen to music while charging
If you are going to use Bluetooth headphones :
1- Audio quality of Bluetooth is WAY lower than wired type, this is because how Bluetooth send music, and this haven't see any changes from around 2004 till now.
2- as more people start using Bluetooth headsets, the chances of "signal interference" wil be increased, results will be either even lower audio quality or noise or actual "crosstalk" will happen.
3- wireless headphones are more expensive (also they have lower Audio quality/price ratio compared to wired headphones, as additional internal parts will cost mony, so the sound driver will be relatively cheaper )
4- you need to consider charging a additional electronic item, and you will be bounded by an equipment that have lower battery life compared to your phone for listening to music
5- higher electronic consumption, as Bluetooth will take a little more juice out of your phone battery, compared to wired headphones (in most cases )
Forced Obsolescence, anyone?
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- FinnishInquisition
- m}S
- 19 Nov 2017
xXENDER FREAKXx, 19 Nov 2017U are getting nothing back when u remove it. Having a 3.5mm... moreRemoving the 3.5 mm port makes it possible to improve both internal and external design and layout choices, and makes waterproofing both cheaper and more long-term reliable. Consumers want nicer and sleeker waterproofed devices, and fewer than ever use 3.5 mm headphones. The choice is simple.
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- AnonD-598579
- Su7
- 19 Nov 2017
Apple: We decided that the 3.5 mm jack needed to go.
iFans: Why?
Apple: Because we say so.
iFans: Yeah, Bluetooth headphones are the future, no more 3.5 mm jack.
I am not saying that Bluetooth is bad, we use it every day in our lives. I use Bluetooth headphones (on my laptop/PC) as much I use wired ones (on my smartphones). But the way Apple is just making this changes and the way people are following this trend like sheep, without thinking, is really really bad for human intelligence.
Yeah, maybe Bluetooth 5.0 comes with some improvements. But until the quality for Bluetooth headphones will catch up to the quality of wired ones (and I am not talking about cheap 30$ headphones), I will be still using wired ones also.
P.S. And don't tell me the Bluetooth headphones sound better, because they are not..I have 2 pairs of 150$ each, one wired the other not, so I know what I am saying.
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- FinnishInquisition
- m}S
- 19 Nov 2017
Be Nice To Others, 19 Nov 2017After the removal of 3.5mm headphone jack failed Apple, the... moreWith the iPhone 7 being one of the most sold iPhones ever, people show they don't care about the 3.5 mm port, me included.
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- Anonymous
- ELT
- 19 Nov 2017
Anonymous, 19 Nov 2017No hole no $$ simpleIn all of holes xD it's most saintly hole I've ever seen lol
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- AnonD-24741
- mY{
- 19 Nov 2017
Lies, damned lies and statistics.
To inflate the percentage of USB-C devices, all phones with a 3.5mm jack _and_ a USB-C port were also counted as USB-C devices.
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- ithehappy
- gM$
- 19 Nov 2017
It has been proven that audio through USB C isn't of better quality than 3.5, and when something is supposed to replace an older tech it has to be better than it, that's the only thing which makes the older tech obsolete, doesn't happen in this case, so 3.5 mm is still the king, unless and until USB C or wireless headphones match and better the quality of 3.5. No point in trying to complicate a really simple matter.
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- LG superfan
- vxx
- 19 Nov 2017
How about using 2 usb type c portsthat way you can connect to headset andaybe even charge using two chargers
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- Anonymous
- AIA
- 19 Nov 2017
No hole no $$ simple
- TheGoldenMellifluous
- sS{
- 19 Nov 2017
I already said it in the past and i'll say it again : Don't be surprised , if either LG (or BBK Electronics) or Sony will be the last OEMs in smartphone industry to include 3.5mm jack on their phone , especially their flagships .
LG has a V Series that always relied on 3.5mm for audio experience with their 32 bit audio or 192kHz audio , BBK Electronics until the released of 5T / V7+ / R11s hasn't removed the feature yet , and Sony already confirmed that they won't following Apple strategies (the 3.5mm jack removal) , due Sony has been on multimedia (ex. Walkman) for years and fans loved it very much, so they can't and won't do it for the Xperia lineup .
(Samsung 3.5mm jack removal from S9 (and Note9) rumors already started to spread everywhere , although can't be confirmed at least till both released Q1 2018 / Q3 2018).
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- Anonymous
- ELT
- 19 Nov 2017
Audio quality in Nokia 8 >>>> all android's army
So, when Audi quality in Android's phone is weak yet! It doesn't matter: " With or without hole of 3.5mm"
Get some quality! Htc, LG and Sony were in this path: rewriting-decoding-encoding better quality perhaps xD
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- Anonymous
- 7s4
- 19 Nov 2017
Love my wired headphones.
Wouldn't have it any other way.
Vote with your wallet and tell these companies which you prefer.
Never follow the masses.
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- Anonymous
- 0BG
- 19 Nov 2017
AnonD-244086, 19 Nov 2017I hope solol. That's so pathetic and absurd. I won't even ask why. Especially with a nickname like yours.
What's next, you'll hope they rise the prices next so you'll be more "premium"?
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- AnonD-244086
- mEA
- 19 Nov 2017
AnonD-441601, 19 Nov 2017Man but they do and did. In enxt 2-3 years no phone will ... moreI hope so
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- Anonymous
- 0BG
- 19 Nov 2017
AnonD-441601, 19 Nov 2017Jack took significant amount of space on phone which could ... moreThen how come iPhones have the smallest batteries and one of the poorest screen to body ratios?
Lack of space? There can't be more obvious lie than that.